Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[pamuchi]

Some boys love jokes and memes about characters who are guys but looks exactly like girls, good example is Asfalto from Fate series. I dropped Agravity Boys but I guess that kind of audience target Chris. But I think feminine looking boys can be pretty appealing to some fujos good example is Lio Fiota from Promare this series it/was pretty popular with fujo demographic.

Now you mention this, we have Inosuke who has a feminine face, just put him clothes and he's Chris (expect for the personality) , but somehow he's ignored by fujos. Dunno why but they really have nitpicky tastes.

 

[Ramen]

Chainsaw Man is the best shounen out rn ftw

 

[ChrissyR5]

MHA should already be halfway through Volume 28 chapter-wise. The weird thing is 27 is taking so long to come out.

27 was supposed to come out this months but it was delayed because of COVID-19

 

[NeeNeen]

I don't think TPGW's author is necessarily trying to make us sympathize with Teppei, specially after this week's chapter. Even though his situation is difficult and he's making it worse at each action he takes, he's already becoming a nuisance to other people. I don't sympathize with him, and that doesn't make the series less interesting to me.

I understand people who are not liking the series because of Teppei's character, but I don't think this is a demerit to the series. I want to know how he'll handle, solve or worsen the situation, and that makes me want to keep following it. I also think Aino becoming his assistant is interesting and brings a lot of potential situations.

I know that the first chapters are the most important for a new series, as it have to get the attention of a group, but maybe the focus of the series is not the time machine or whatever, but Teppei making mistakes and having to deal with it. His first ordeal was to deal with his own guilty (and he's failing miserably), I believe he'll have to deal with with other people very soon. And that's where I think the author have to really nail it, because if the conflict only stay inside Teppei's head, the series will get stale and go nowhere.

It's not that I don't like the series. I'm really just impatient and annoyed with his excuses. Like you said, if it's only him struggling with himself it's going to get boring soon, so I'm waiting for something else. (Also still hoping for him NOT to become a criminal, because I do sympathise and I don't want him to get hurt because of his own stupidity.)

Plagiarism complaints are still small compared to death note. Plagiarism is a crime but genocide is much worse and death note was a success.
you are judging very superficially as if the manga just talked about plagiarism and not so black and white.
We don't even know if it wasn't Future Aino who sent the jump to Teppei to do the white Knight in the present so that the manga is published, if it is, then it is not plagiarism.

And even if he shows her the manga at present, it doesn't mean that she'll believe it.

Because Death Note isn't about Light struggling with his decisions. It's about crazy mind games. They aren't even the same genre, why are you comparing them?

they seem to disappear though. The whole reason he thought he dreamed the series in the first place is the issue was gone when he woke up.

Didn't he just misplace it? When he returned to his studio after a week, there was a whole pile of them lying around. And you can see him holding the first issue in his hands trying to copy the art style.

Even if they would disappear after a while, he knows when to expect them. Just sit the girl down in front of the microwave and wait for them to pop up. Or film it/take some photos and show her. You have options here, just use your brain a little.

 

[Ryuusei]

Some boys/men love jokes and memes about characters who are guys but looks exactly like girls, good example is Asfalto from Fate series. I dropped Agravity Boys but I guess that kind of audience target Chris. But I think feminine looking boys can be pretty appealing to some fujos good example is Lio Fiota from Promare this series it/was pretty popular with fujo demographic.

Promare is popular with fujos because of Galo and Lio's dynamics (also because of one very specific scene in the movie).

Now you mention this, we have Inosuke who has a feminine face, just put him clothes and he's Chris (expect for the personality) , but somehow he's ignored by fujos. Dunno why but they really have nitpicky tastes.

Ultimately, it doesn't come down to looks, it's about the dynamics between the two male counterparts. Since you mentioned Inosuke, his only good dynamic is with Tanjirou, but even then, Tanjirou's dynamics with other characters are more appealing to a bigger portion of the fujo public so we see less Inosuke.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Didn't he just misplace it? When he returned to his studio after a week, there was a whole pile of them lying around. And you can see him holding the first issue in his hands trying to copy the art style.

at the end of the chapter it and a bunch of other volumes reappear from the microwave

Even if they would disappear after a while, he knows when to expect them. Just sit the girl down in front of the microwave and wait for them to pop up. Or film it/take some photos and show her. You have options here, just use your brain a little.

I'm not sure if it is consistent. First day it was only 1 volume, next day it looked like 5 or 6 and other than those two back to back nothing in the series has implied it happens every day (in fact I doubt it does or when the assistants where in the house finishing chapter 1 for him they would have been there for it).

 

[animeexpert]

Is there honestly people who think bone collection will survive? Lmao. This manga is so guaranteed axe since start

 

[Stivie]

Is there honestly people who think bone collection will survive? Lmao. This manga is so guaranteed axe since start

The jump already has Mashle and Undead unluck working.
I find it difficult to have a successful third or fourth manga in 2020.

 

[pamuchi]

Ultimately, it doesn't come down to looks, it's about the dynamics between the two male counterparts. Since you mentioned Inosuke, his only good dynamic is with Tanjirou, but even then, Tanjirou's dynamics with other characters are more appealing to a bigger portion of the fujo public so we see less Inosuke.

Damn and this makes me think he will rank even lower in the upcoming popularity poll.

 

[pamuchi]

I'll have to ask heh, but what manga has received tons of criticism/slandering but still has managed to survive and sell well?

Hard mode: not black clover.

 

[Newkerzy]

Now you mention this, we have Inosuke who has a feminine face, just put him clothes and he's Chris (expect for the personality) , but somehow he's ignored by fujos. Dunno why but they really have nitpicky tastes.

I think you just answered your question. Inosuke might be feminine-like in appearance but his personality doesn’t suit what Fujos are looking for. He’s pretty much what you would call a sociopath in the modern day.

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

I'll have to ask heh, but what manga has received tons of criticism/slandering but still has managed to survive and sell well?

Hard mode: not black clover.

Most Wsj series? Being popular seems to be a lightning rod for criticism and the more popular it is, the more criticism it gets. Honestly, I have seen so much MHA hate/criticism, I'm surprised that they are people who like it lol

 

[Ryuusei]

Damn and this makes me think he will rank even lower in the upcoming popularity poll.

There was a poll with female wotas regarding male characters in general and Rengoku, Tanjirou, Zenitsu, Uzui and Sanemi were all ahead of Inosuke. He might just be near the bottom of the top 10.

I think you just answered your question. Inosuke might be feminine-like in appearance but his personality doesn’t suit what Fujos are looking for. He’s pretty much what you would call a sociopath in the modern day.

Bakugou's personality would beg to differ.

 

[Tamil]

We may be getting a Stone Ocean announcement or Purple Haze feedback OVA. Just remember that part 4 was announced at a part 3 event.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

I think you just answered your question. Inosuke might be feminine-like in appearance but his personality doesn’t suit what Fujos are looking for. He’s pretty much what you would call a sociopath in the modern day.

Bakugou's personality would beg to differ.

Lol pretty much this, as long as a character is remotely good looking and interacts with other male characters, that’s all that matters

 

[Tamil]

I feel like it’s important to establish what types of reprints these are to get a better idea oof how successful the manga is.

A reprint for MASHLE is a good sign tho.

What do you mean by type of reprints? What are they?

 

[pamuchi]

I think you just answered your question. Inosuke might be feminine-like in appearance but his personality doesn’t suit what Fujos are looking for. He’s pretty much what you would call a sociopath in the modern day.

Well we have another crazy guy with anger issues and yet he gets tons of fujos. I guess it has more to do with interactions than anything. Like Ryuusei said, inosuke barely has interactions with other male characters who's not Tanjirou or Zenitsu. Ultimately we can say Kanao joins the list. And she's a female.

While Bakugou interacts almost with everyone in its own way, so that's a big plus.

 

[Halloween]

Guys, let's chill on the plagiarism talk in regards to TPGW. This appears to be a hot topic that is leading to users losing their cool.

 

[TyVip]

What do you mean by type of reprints? What are they?

one goes to the warehouse and one goes directly to the store

so Koni probably wants to know which (the latter is better)

 

[101nemesis]

What do you mean by type of reprints? What are they?

I'm assuming he meant either reprint direct to store shelves for immediate requirement or to warehouse for future requirement.

Direct to shelves implies immediate demand meaning there's a chance you'll see an increase (however small or big) in print number for the next volume. This seems to be the case for Mashle 1.