Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
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We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
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Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Worse yet some of those people are starting to say that the same thing wouldn't have happened with Kubo because he's a better mangaka...
It's possible Kubo could make something more successful, though.

It's really hard to say for sure, because Japan's tastes are always hard to predict.
 

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Do we know if the studio for BLEACH 2020 is Pierrot? If so maybe Boruto/Black Clover would end?
 

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Do we know if the studio for BLEACH 2020 is Pierrot? If so maybe Boruto/Black Clover would end?
probably black clover. Give the manga some space, then continue it later when there's more chapters lined up.
 

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Black Clover anime is pretty close to catching up right? I could see it stopping after this third year and being replaced by Bleach for a while I guess. It's never done a full on filler arc right?
 

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Kishimoto wasn't the first big mangaka to come back and fail. He won't be the last either.

To the fans who kept saying it won't be cancelled need to own up and admit its shortcomings and learn that it's not their work and they don't need to be taking anything personally. Stop feeling sad for Kishi. He's going on a vacation which most of us can't do as freely as he can. He'll be fine.
Also, this is WSJ. No one is exempt from the axe unless you were serializing something along the likes of OP, Naruto or Bleach.
Watch BC get cancelled once the anime ends and the sales really start to plummet.

And to the people who keep hating on Kishi and S8 instead of moving on for the past year, you either need to grow up or you probably need therapy because hating on something unnecessarily just to spite a fandom for almost a year is pretty sad and begs the question of mental health issues.

With that, I'm done with S8.
 

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Do we know if the studio for BLEACH 2020 is Pierrot? If so maybe Boruto/Black Clover would end?
None of the two would end, they make money. Bleach would be on it.

There's also the possibility of Studio Signpost being on it (previous Pierrot+)
 

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None of the two would end, they make money. Bleach would be on it.

There's also the possibility of Studio Signpost being on it (previous Pierrot+)
Wouldn't BC end since the anime would've caught up to the manga?
 

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It's possible Kubo could make something more successful, though.

It's really hard to say for sure, because Japan's tastes are always hard to predict.
I believe had he followed up a new series immediately after Bleach end it would have been poorly received due to the stigma old fans had with the ending but like you say its really hard to predict Japan's tastes.
 

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None of the two would end, they make money. Bleach would be on it.

There's also the possibility of Studio Signpost being on it (previous Pierrot+)
it's not like whichever would end forever. Black Clover is really close to the manga so temporarily ending it while Bleach airs then resuming when Bleach ends would be a good way to give it a break
 

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Wouldn't BC end since the anime would've caught up to the manga?
There's a possibility. But I see fillers coming to give time to the manga.
 

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Do we know if the studio for BLEACH 2020 is Pierrot? If so maybe Boruto/Black Clover would end?
If it were Pierrot then it would have been known by now. Seems weird to keep that piece of info away from the announcement page but everything seems to point to a new studio animating it.
 

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Bleach's production committee is different, so chances of the studio being different is likely. Remember the Aniplex rumors?
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---


I case people haven't seen.
 

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Btw, really sad to already seeing people saying that the editor forced kubo to come back. Amazing how people love to make editors as villains, even when the very comment from Kubo says that he only showed it to family and closest people, which then obviously would include one of his editors.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Bleach's production committee is different, so chances of the studio being different is likely. Remember the Aniplex rumors?
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---


I case people haven't seen.
That's true, I forgot about that.
 

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Do you guys see a chance for Hitman Reborn or Toriko to also get anime continuation of their manga adaptations in the future?

I don't even remember in what part of Toriko manga did the anime stop.
I think it's a possibility for Toriko to get one, even if it is low. The "issue" is that Toei has much, much, more lucrative titles to revive than Toriko. The only way I can see Toriko getting adapted in the future is if a studio is passionate about it or into rebooting older hits/classics like MAPPA with Shaman King (even if it didnt go through). I'm not going to expect a Toriko reboot though and it's quite impossible to continue the Toriko anime with how much Toei altered it for the cooking festival.

I rather much prefer a Takeshi anime. I think it can be a hit even today and a nice children anime.
 

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I think it's a possibility for Toriko to get one, even if it is low. The "issue" is that Toei has much, much, more lucrative titles to revive than Toriko. The only way I can see Toriko getting adapted in the future is if a studio is passionate about it or into rebooting older hits/classics like MAPPA with Shaman King (even if it didnt go through). I'm not going to expect a Toriko reboot though and it's quite impossible to continue the Toriko anime with how much Toei altered it for the cooking festival.

I rather much prefer a Takeshi anime. I think it can be a hit even today and a nice children anime.
It wouldn't be Toei Animation to do it but Fuji TV and Shueisha which were the ones on the committee. And there's no reason to do that, except for maybe an anniversary.
 

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Is it me or this Kishimoto hate is a little bit exaggerated? Just looking through the comments on Twitter and Facebook, is a quite something.
This is why i didn't take much of the called "criticism" seriously, because you could totally separate who just didn't liked the series, made their criticism and moved on from the ones who were much more just using S8 and the sales to externalize a personal hate against Kishi/Naruto, it was always a unnecessary aggressive tone and mocking the low sales as if it was a personal pleasure to see Kishimoto fail, a example being that Bleach fanatic Jaymes on Twitter recently mocking the sales probably because he has some inferiority complex.
 

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Regarding Samurai 8...

So, I love samurai stuff. Gintama and Rurouni Kenshin are among my top favourites. I don’t enjoy sci-fi at all (Gintama kept me solely due to Gintoki as a protagonist) but I decided to give the series a chance despite Kishimoto screwing over my best girl Tenten. Mifune was a cool character and I did want to see more of the samurai in Naruto...

Unfortunately, the series was an absolute mess. Massive lore dumps and terminology introduced at really strange moments, earlier issues with Ōkubo’s artwork and a lack of compelling characters and cohesion of theme really killed the series for me. There were certain interesting ideas like the non binary character Nanashi and video game combat explaining Hachimaru’s prowess but they were just handled clumsily...like most of the series.

An was the best character in the series, but having her be an energy source and damsel in distress most of the time was...a really poor decision. I know I shouldn’t be hoping for much in a shonen series, but it felt backwards. Even worse, Daruma’s master was a female character and we probably won’t even see her in action...

The last thing that bothers me was the lack of a powerful theme that really drew me in. To be honest, I didn’t like Team 7 in Naruto. Normally if I don’t like any main characters, I drop the series. It was the world in Naruto and side characters that got me to keep reading/watching it, but the Haku and Zabuza arc was fantastic. From seeing Naruto freezing up on his first mission to ending the arc on him finding his ninja way? It was fantastic, and I never felt anything like that in Samurai 8. There weren’t even any villains on Haku and Zabuza’s level (Sanda’s master was an absolute joke).

If Kishimoto does give WSJ another shot, maybe they should consider giving him an older editor instead of the younger one he got.

Sorry if this is so scattered, I have to type on a cell phone for now and I’m not really used to it.
 

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Do we know if the studio for BLEACH 2020 is Pierrot? If so maybe Boruto/Black Clover would end?
All signs are pointing to A1 pictures, seeing how BtW is being done by Colorado (a twin engine company) twin engine might be on the production committee as well. So studio Voln is an option as well, they have experience with semi long running anime
 

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A1 is locked for Yozakura Family anime in 2021 :3c
 

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All signs are pointing to A1 pictures, seeing how BtW is being done by Colorado (a twin engine company) twin engine might be on the production committee as well. So studio Voln is an option as well, they have experience with semi long running anime
Uhh...what signs are we talking about?
 
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