Shonen Jump has a natural overly competitive and hard environment, also clearly don't make much of a distinction from newbies and veterans which is a problem per se but in good part is what made Jump what they are but not with the sacrificies that are the veterans, part of them don't even try to come back to the magazine anymore because why you would put your name in risk and be canceled like a nobody just because you're not doing so hot in the rankings? And most of the ones who try come back face early cancelation because like i said, is a overly competitive magazine where you will be treated like a newbie again and even if you actually sell pretty decently you will have no back up from the magazine if the "rankings" aren't good not matter if you made big money for them with your last hit.
1. Why is that such a thing a bad thing? You can argue it's not an environment veteran creators survive in, but then why is it bad? You keep calling this a "problem", but that's just Jump being a risk-reward structure.
kinda weird how you typed all this out to defend your argument that the jump system is flawed, but then ended up explaining what makes jump more successful than any other magazine
Rain you should read better my comment, i said it's a good part of what made Jump what they are but it doesn't come without sacrificies, you ask why is bad, but if isn't something bad at all why virtually no other magazine in the industry do the same? i think is easy to say that when you don't work in this industry but imagine you being a author that gave tons of money for Shonen Jump only to be treated like a newbie and canceled quickly because your new work didn't met the initial high standards of Jump, i really doubt you would be saying that.
Being more successful don't mean you're without flaws.
OK so you are basically saying that Jump doesn’t give enough leeway to veterans. So should they be treated differently or something?
wasn't yui kamio?
What i think doesn't really matter for Shonen Jump, but i say that years ago i thought that SJ was like "wow the best magazine, what they do gets the best results, why all the other magazines don't do the same?" and so the years passed and following weekly sales, getting the context of the industry and many other magazines i did understand why they don't do and started to get annoyed by some Jump practices and start to admire Shonen Magazine treatment and practices with their veterans for example, if Jump had at least a bit of that, would be really good but it's other system and etc.
maybe because jump was an innovator in that field, and other magazines are comfortable doing what they're doing, working with a smaller risk factor.
i think any mangaka aiming to get into jump knows exactly how competitive it is as an evironment. the competition is what gives manga the opportunity to grow and improve. if they were one to complain about the competitive nature of jump, they most likely wouldn't survive for long in the first place (outside of some rare cases)
it doesn't, but i would say that the pros far outweigh the cons if the system made your magazine the # in the world.
This has really nothing to do with trying to be innovator or the other magazines being comfortable working with smaller risks, just to remember that Shonen Jump was once dethroned for a time by these other magazines when Dragon Ball, Slam Dunk and others ended, also Shonen Jump system is simply impracticable for the industry, isn't a case of taking risks, is simply because this industry would not be half big with every manga magazine just throwing everything out of the window because it doesn't sell at certain high standards.
Shimabu (Takeshi & Toriko)
Togashi (YYH, HxH), Matsui (Neuro/AssClass) and Inagaki (Eyeshield/Dr. Stone) are the ones that spring to mind for me.
Magazine and specially Sunday are notoriously known for having a big rooster of veteran authors with at least 2 hits in their magazines, you just need to look at the Magazine and Sunday pages on MAL for example and see how many of them are there, and this just talking about "hits" because you have lots of minor authors that are always coming back.