Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

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Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Rain Spectre]

New Spy x Family illustration coming with Vol 4.

 

[OniluapL]

That's a pointless argument, but whatever, I'm not above it, so let me add something.

Of course Luffy acts in a childish manner in many aspects, but, at the same time, in the world of One Piece, he isn't really treated like a child, which I think is the argument Shinuki is making here. He is technically of age in One Piece world (at least where he's born), and he is surrounded by characters that are older than him and already working, or living by themselves, whatever. Overall he has a level of freedom and agency in his attitudes, that, combined with how the world treats him (no one really tries to make him not do something because he's too young, for instance), makes it plausible that he is considered a young adult. But then again, his personality is indeed that of a child, I don't think there's denying that. I don't think neither of you are wrong, lol, it's more a matter of perspective.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Elaborate. Actually elaborate on you mean.

It's literally in the comment, Luffy's interactions, characters around him (most SH crew were basically adults from the start), the adventures, all of this never felt like following a teenager journey, but a young adult one, he has a more "mature like" atmosphere around him since the beginning despite his personality, while Midoriya for example, it feels 100% like following a typical teenager, despite his personality being "more mature", everything around him and he too makes it feels like a teenager story and teenager character (which is the case btw).

--- Double Post Merged, May 7, 2020, Original Post Date: May 7, 2020 ---

That's a pointless argument, but whatever, I'm not above it, so let me add something.

Of course Luffy acts in a childish manner in many aspects, but, at the same time, in the world of One Piece, he isn't really treated like a child, which I think is the argument Shinuki is making here. He is technically of age in One Piece world (at least where he's born), and he is surrounded by characters that are older than him and already working, or living by themselves, whatever. Overall he has a level of freedom and agency in his attitudes, that, combined with how the world treats him (no one really tries to make him not do something because he's too young, for instance), makes it plausible that he is considered a young adult. But then again, his personality is indeed that of a child, I don't think there's denying that. I don't think neither of you are wrong, lol, it's more a matter of perspective.

Pretty much this.

 

[revo68]

Dentist-San, Your Boobs Are Touching Me! by Yamazaki Shou gets serialisation in May 16th in Jump+

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[Azure Warrior]

What does caring about meat have to do with adulthood?


Luffy is more mature(enotionally..... Sometimes ) in some ways, way too childish in others.

Just the fact that instead of being attracted to girls in any way (Sorry Hancock) and just loving food over them.

I am a longtime fan you know. Luffy has some adult and teen aspects in his character. While he does have a serious side to him, he's just carefree and all about messing around as a pirate. A contrast from some like Blackbeard, or Shanks, or even Kaido.

 

[Lord fifth]

Spoiler

You mean the same Luffy who had a complete mental breakdown after his brothers death and had to be snapped out of it by Jinbe?

Like, this isn't me talking about if One Piece is good or not, claiming Luffy, the characters whose simple to the point Oda avoids giving him internal thoughts, emotionally mature is factually incorrect. Especially if you're arguing he's somehow more mature than Deku, Tanjiro, etc.

Having your brother die in front of you and you breaking down is a sign your emotionally immaturity?

Luffy is emotionally mature in a way that he seems to get people like with nami in arlong Park, or in alabasta where he straight up told Vivi that people are going to die no matter what she does, or in jaya where he chose not to fight because its pointless (and because he doesn't respect Bellamy who bellittles people's dreams) , or In dressrosa where he at first says he fought doflamingo because of food then states:"if I don't fight on, what do you think will happen to the people of this country" or with Bellamy the second time where he instatly saw through his act or with Pedro where he doesnt breakdown like his crew when they see him sacrificing himself but goes for the most immediet danger to their lives to insure they live(katakuri).

And I didn't compare luffy to anyone I don't know why you would.

Just the fact that instead of being attracted to girls in any way (Sorry Hancock) and just loving food over them.

I am a longtime fan you know. Luffy has some adult and teen aspects in his character. While he does have a serious side to him, he's just carefree and all about messing around as a pirate. A contrast from some like Blackbeard, or Shanks, or even Kaido.

Being attracted to girs/boys isn't a sign of adulthood.

But other than that I agree with you.

 

[Heiji]

The special editions of the 21st, 22nd and 23rd (last) volume of Kimetsu no Yaiba, will each contain a figurine.

21th volume will be out 3 july. Special edition will have 32 stickers. Cost : 1200 yens.
22th volume will be out 2 october. Special edition will have 8 badges and a booklet which will contain the Onisatsu-tan information. Cost : 2000 yens.
23th volume (last) will be out 4 december. Special edition will contain 4 Qpisket figures (Tanjirô, Nezuko, Zenitsu & Inosuke). Cost : 5200 yens.

Note that the special editions of the 22nd and 23rd volumes will be produced only by reservation.

 

[Dellinger]

If you guys think that Luffy acts in the same way Midoriya or the other teens act in MHA then you are simply wrong. Luffy acts on his own desires, he has his own ideology, he carries himself like a leader. On the other hand MHA casts are literally students, they don’t act in the same strong way Luffy does

 

[Ryuusei]

21th volume will be out 3 july. Special edition will have 32 stickers. Cost : 1200 yens.
22th volume will be out 2 october. Special edition will have 8 badges and a booklet which will contain the Onisatsu-tan information. Cost : 2000 yens.
23th volume (last) will be out 4 december. Special edition will contain 4 Qpisket figures (Tanjirô, Nezuko, Zenitsu & Inosuke). Cost : 5200 yens.

Note that the special editions of the 22nd and 23rd volumes will be produced only by reservation.

Holy shit, 5,200 en is a lot of money.

 

[Azure Warrior]

This current subject gives me an idea. Who do you think is the most subversive Jump protagonist?

Denji sticks out the most in that he has no real goal and got a cynical feel to him.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

-Holy god WNL 3rd in the ToC
-Act-age in the bottom pains me
-Mashle continues doing well and UU too
-Ey UU color chapters next week
-The groupal cover for me gives another message that they are done with Black Clover

 

[OniluapL]

This current subject gives me an idea. Who do you think is the most subversive Jump protagonist?

Denji sticks out the most in that he has no real goal and got a cynical feel to him.

Denji is a good answer, I feel. Not only that, but one interesting thing, imo, is that he's in a kinda conventional position for a MC (member of an organization, they hunt or kill evil beings or monsters), but they way Fujimoto deals with that scenario is very, very different than most other writers (not giving details because, y'know, but I think it's hard to disagree it's a very unique tone)

 

[Jovan]

Translation for the Time Paradox Ghostwriter preview.

 

[OfficialHxH]

 

[red_]

-Holy god WNL 3rd in the ToC
-Act-age in the bottom pains me
-Mashle continues doing well and UU too
-Ey UU color chapters next week
-The groupal cover for me gives another message that they are done with Black Clover

I'm not worried about Act-age as the sales will hopefully improve if the supposed anime comes to be. WNL is just being placed cause its wrapping up. MASHLE and UU are probably the best newbies currently. I'm worried for Black Clover though with sales declining and possibly entering a final arc scenario. The west likes Black Clover though for the anime, but that audience doesn't primarily buy manga, so only time will tell.

 

[Ryuusei]

So like, Bakuman From the Future? This sounds all sort of meta and I'm pretty curious about it.

 

[yadayada]

This sounds interesting but I hope the author knows what he's doing with the story, aside from the informative aspect of Bakuman I wasn't really interested on it and that part obviously came from the authors' experience which this duo doesn't have. Well, atleast the premise isn't generic which is good, it won't find much competition in the mag for what it's doing which might help it out.

Holy shit, 5,200 en is a lot of money.

Is there any info on what the most expensive LEs were for manga? Even the leaker was surprised at how expensive it was.

 

[Rain Spectre]

"Controversial"? Hmm...

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I don't feel Time Paradox Ghost Writer is going to be like Bakuman, where mangaka was the plot. I feel is going to be more like The Comiq, where the MC being a mangaka was just a support base (remember the manga was a mistery one about resolving a murder because one innocent guy who got framed painted the manga pages in a determined way).

I still think is going to be more like Steins Gate, dunno. If someone gets the Jump earlier next week, pls inform

 

[Lord fifth]

OP hasn't put out limited editions after Oricon started tracking manga sales. (Also, welcome)

I am talking about something like this. (sales after the 4 week mark)

Note:I got this from an old thread.