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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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This week's top 5:
1. Magu-chan: God of Destruction - Hilarious chapter. Love the new character introduced. I think the cast is starting to gel together nicely.
2. Mission: Yozakura Family - I was just thinking that it seemed weird that there hadn't been a hot spring/beach chapter yet. This chapter was funny, and I'm really looking forward to the next one.
3. We Never Learn - Really great chapter. This arc has been fantastically done. It amazes me how the two main girls of the series seem like they're going to end up with the most lackluster endings.
4. Mashle - Bowling gag was pretty funny, and it's nice to see Lemon acknowledged a bit. I'm looking forward to more of the battle with the creepy doll guy.
5. Undead Unluck - Quite a lot to digest here concerning who is actually on which side. I'm glad that Fuuko didn't end up being just a damsel in distress type character.

The best of the rest:
6. Ayakashi Triangle - Best chapter in quite a while. I'm interested to learn more about Suzu's powers and what exactly Shirogane is after.
7. Moriking - Decently funny chapter. Those end-game vibes last chapter gave off were nowhere to be found this time around. I wish the author would make more chapters with Shoko as the main focus again.
8. Me & Roboco - Some of the gags were pretty funny, and others missed their mark. As a whole, the chapter was pretty decent, even though I'm more of a Papa John's guy myself lol.
9. Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin - Probably my favorite chapter thus far. Nothing too outlandish, with the right amount of humor and foreshadowing.
10. Honomieru Shonen - This chapter wasn't too bad. The artwork was really good, and the new character was pretty good this time around. The fight isn't doing much for me though.
11. High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku - Kind of a strange chapter, but there were some parts that were at least somewhat funny.
12. Chainsaw Man - Another bizarre chapter with an ending that was totally out of left-field.
13. Our Blood Oath - Once again, I'm left super confused by what this series wants to be. The storytelling felt really clunky, and this new character felt really shoehorned into the chapter. I'm definitely getting strong U19 vibes from this one. The art is good, but either the author needs to work on their storytelling or the editor needs to help guide the story better.
14. Agravity Boys - Another lousy, text-heavy chapter with a random plot and random characters. Why the author won't just focus on expanding the planet they're on is beyond me.
 

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I don't get what's happening with the storytellers of Jump... For most series pacing is odd and plot don't even try to be cohesive. OBO is the pinnacle of this.

OP had a great chapter again and PS continues to be a consistent read.
Even with the fights going on, Mashle feels stale for me. I wonder if these fights are having any effect on the long run.
Also I told I was done with Ayakashi after the tentacles thing but I've read good comments on it and came back. It's really going somewhere for now.
 

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My Hero Academia definitely is the standout of the week. I managed not to get spoiled so that final page was genuinely shocking. Even if this doesn't result in a certain character's death it will at least push his arc in the best direction going forward. Chainsaw Man was just as stupid good as last week, I felt so bad for laughing. Me & Roboco was the funniest of the gag series this week with its best chapter so far, had be laughing at least once per page. It's becoming one of my new unlikely favourites of the magazine.

Really enjoying One Piece now that Wano has reached full on explosive action back-to back. Phantom Seer had another really cool and slickly drawn action chapter, and Mashle was good once again. Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin keeps improving with each chapter thanks to this recent arc - I hope what comes next keeps it up. Glad to see Kugisaki getting some spotlight in Jujutsu Kaisen, and We Never Learn continuing to have its best ending route so far. Agravity Boys introducing its (presumably) final villains spells its inevitable ending, but at least the main antagonist looks cool (nipple tassels and all).

Our Blood Oath is utterly baffling, each chapter has felt like a completely different series with severe clashes in tone and just bonkers choices in how its being presented to the readers. The Mission: Yozakura Family chapter wasn't anything special at first but those final pages caught me off guard, hope it follows through on its promise! Magu-chan was my least favourite chapter again mainly because the art seems to deteriorating with each passing week to the point that it's just distracting.

My ranking of the chapters compared to last week:
  1. (+1) My Hero Academia
  2. (-1) Chainsaw Man
  3. (+1) Me & Roboco
  4. ( - ) One Piece
  5. (+1) Phantom Seer
  6. (-1) Mashle
  7. (-4) High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku
  8. (+2) Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin
  9. (-2) Jujutsu Kaisen
  10. (-2) We Never Learn
  11. (-2) Dr. STONE
  12. (-1) Agravity Boys
  13. (-1) Undead Unluck
  14. (-1) Our Blood Oath
  15. (+2) Mission: Yozakura Family
  16. (-1) Moriking
  17. (-1) Ayakashi Triangle
  18. ( - ) Magu-chan: God of Destruction
 

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I feel like Blood Oath has a pretty interesting story buried within it, but we're only getting glimpses of that story and its complexities due to it having such odd and incompetent presentation.

Phantom Seer meanwhile is the total opposite, there's not much interesting about it but the execution is very consistent and delivered well.
 

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I feel like Blood Oath has a pretty interesting story buried within it, but we're only getting glimpses of that story and its complexities due to it having such odd and incompetent presentation.

Phantom Seer meanwhile is the total opposite, there's not much interesting about it but the execution is very consistent and delivered well.
Well, none of the 8 comedies bothered to want to tell a story, just Mashle. And there's no one complaining, they just defend it because it's fun.

Phantom seer at least presented an arc at least interesting.
 

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I actually liked chapter 3 of blood oath. Sucks that chapter 2 was so underwhelming and that it may have ruined the series reputation. I really do see a lot of potential for this series to stand out from the rest, it just needs to really get better pacing and ditch the episodic nature. I’m still on the fence about phantom seer as there are a lot of things I love about the series (character/ monster designs, paneling, art, concept, and action scenes) but also a lot of things I dislike ( characters, writing, “comedic” moments, and pacing).
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Well, none of the 8 comedies bothered to want to tell a story, just Mashle. And there's no one complaining, they just defend it because it's fun.

Phantom seer at least presented an arc at least interesting.
That’s like saying chainsawman should be a episodic manga because kochiekame was one. 2 completely different genres that serve completely different purposes. I mean the main point of a comedic series is to make people laugh so it make sense that most of them don’t have a “deep stories”. Phantom seer on the other hand clearly has a strong focus on the on characters and lore so a series like that would need at least a somewhat decent story to really get it’s point across.
 
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I actually liked chapter 3 of blood oath. Sucks that chapter 2 was so underwhelming and that it may have ruined the series reputation. I really do see a lot of potential for this series to stand out from the rest, it just needs to really get better pacing and ditch the episodic nature. I’m still on the fence about phantom seer as there are a lot of things I love about the series (character/ monster, designs, paneling, art, concept, and action scenes) but also a lot of things I dislike ( characters, writing, “comedic” moments, and pacing).
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I mean the main point of a comedic series is to just make people laugh so it make sense that most of them don’t have a “deep stories”. Phantom seer on the other hand clearly has a strong focus on the on characters and lore so a series like that would need at least a somewhat decent story to really get it’s point across. That’s like saying chainsawman should be a episodic manga because kochiekame was one. 2 completely different genres that serve completely different purpose.
Well, from what I see, Phantom Seer's defects are not as damaging as Bokura's.
I don't see why not to accept, after all, no story is perfect. I like Yozakura, however he has many defects.
 

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I feel like Blood Oath has a pretty interesting story buried within it, but we're only getting glimpses of that story and its complexities due to it having such odd and incompetent presentation.

Phantom Seer meanwhile is the total opposite, there's not much interesting about it but the execution is very consistent and delivered well.
I would disagree with delivered "well", more like "competent enough", but otherwise, i'm in complete agreement. Blood Oath seems to have something there, the problem is that it's terribly told. Phantom Seer is just extremely bland so far.
 

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That’s like saying chainsawman should be a episodic manga because kochiekame was one. 2 completely different genres that serve completely different purposes. I mean the main point of a comedic series is to make people laugh so it make sense that most of them don’t have a “deep stories”. Phantom seer on the other hand clearly has a strong focus on the on characters and lore so a series like that would need at least a somewhat decent story to really get it’s point across.
Dude, Mashle has jokes, but he can focus on the story.
So much so that it is not acting that he is better than the others.
Sorry but that's no excuse
 

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Lol Chainsaw Man as of late really tells that Fujimoto is not afraid of doing whatever the fuck he wants, looking forward how things develop with this returning characters. Mashle is a bowling manga lmao, love how the art goes from basic to detailed in just a couple of pages, and also love smash’s expressions. Cop and Dolphin is an NTR manga now, liked the conclusion to this arc, so looking forward to what happens next.

UU with a full on action chapter this week, the interactions have left me wondering the long term plans for the antagonists, I’m hooked. Yozakura had a strong second half, especially the ending, hope we don’t get blue balled. MHA definitely had one of this arc’s best chapters yetreally sure Bakugo won’t die but like it was said this seems to finally put his arc on the best track. One Piece with another back to back action chapter, it was cool tho I do want to see how the climax of Wano will be .

Magu-chan always solid as ever, liking this new character introduced. Phantom Seer was ok, it isn’t something outstanding but it’s fun to read, really hope we get an endgame goal set up soon. Definitely agree about Out Blood Oath, this would of been the second chapter instead of the filler we got last week, did not expected that twist at the end, I’ll give it that, let’s see if it can hold up, lil brother is starting to annoy me tho.
 

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1. My Hero Academia: Binge completed! I confirm the general idea that I discussed last week, it's too keen on the battle shonen tropes that sometimes seem to enslave the series while some others are played really well and they deliver. We are in the middle of a huge climax and this chapter can have heavy consequences. If played well the author showed great courage, we'll see.
2. Magu-chan: God of destruction: At first I was "Oh no, another new character, stop introducing one every week", but I was easily conquered by her. It felt like an attempt to switch gears to avoid the menacious axe, it played well in my opinion for the chapter was the funniest that this series had in a while.
3. Moriking: It's hard to see a pattern in my rankings...this was in third place three weeks ago, then two weeks at the bottom and now third again. The family situation was really funny and all characters got to add their personalities in the mix. The ending was obvious but it's the voyage that matters.
4. Jujutsu Kaisen: Nice fight, albeit relying to the cliché of a seemingly improvised strategy that turns out to be a decoy for a better plan, I liked the consequences and the fact that the villain has been brought down from his pedestal.
5. Mission: Yozakura family: Hot springs chapter! Nice and fun. About the ending, it doesn't seem the series that would rely to ecchi, I think there is something more going on and I am curious to see what it will be.
6. Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin: Nice closure of the arc, now we have added some romance to the genre mix. I'm happy that this series is starting to show everything it's got.
7. One piece: Now it's full war! I really have the feel that a large scale war is happening. Great funny moment from Usopp.
8. Chainsaw Man: Chainsawman is Chainsawmanning, of course. I have a theory about what's happening but it's wrong to make theories about this manga. You just have to let yourself go with the flow.
9. Me & Roboco: Funny chapter with a good general idea. I am starting to enjoy it more and more, maybe it's part of having accepted that this is going to stay.
10. Ayakashi Triangle: Now that we have a kind of plot and even some informations about how the "power system" (for lack of a better term) works, it's possible to let the ecchi slide a little bit and enjoy this series more.
11. Undead Unluck: Warm-up chapter with a bit of interesting development thrown here and there. I don't think this will be the end of the "battle", next chapter will be the real deal.
12. Our Blood Oath: Interesting chapter, nothing especially astounding but at least it was pretty solid. It has margin to become better, if it can avoid false steps like last week's.
13. Mashle: Hey Mash, what are you doing at the bottom this week? Nothing particulary stands out, neither the comedy nor the action. This isn't a dude you shuld take down with comedic counterattacks...but that's what we want you to do anyway. What a situation.
14. Phantom Seer: Solid but anonymous. The tengus were nice though, I hope to see more of them.
15. High school family: Didn't make me laugh, not even once. I still have problems with connecting to this series.

Binge update. What now?: So, I am left with three series: Dr. Stone, We Never Learn and Agravity Boys. Given that the latter two may approach their ending soon, I am going with the first for now while I wait to see how the others will turn out.
 

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JjK: And this is how you make a cool girl character that's more than just a love interest/fan service/support!

OP: Stuff happened.

MHA: Meh, I didn't even needed to read the twitter spoilers to know what was up and no surprise X happened. Like with all the previous chapters foreshadowing and reminding of said X value in the story what else was supposed to happened? Plus this ain't the real deal, just look at the body parts were X got hit, nothing life-threatened. Plus I don't really care for X nor get why anyone actually fangirls/fanboys over X so the X situation left me pretty meh.

Mashle: Truly Mob Psycho 100 and OnePunchMan Lovechild in HP Universe. But I really prefer the "side reactions" in the other series more than the ones in Mashle. Maybe it is because of MP100 and OPM so I am already used to it, but those side reaction get no reaction outta me and they are there for the reason to make you grin or chuckle.

HSF: Little sister will be the first female premier minister of Japan, that's for sure.

Dr.Stone: So.....who won now? ?.?

PS: Well, those are...."cute" summons? Quite a lot happened, but for some reason it didn't excited me much.

Yozakura: Rip Taiyo. Mutsumi shows who is the one pushing the relationship forward.

M&R: Roboco GPS is so broken, lol.

AT:
Noooooooiiiiceeee~ Little bro got a nice sight there, bet he will not be able to sleep soundly that night. XD Also a two soul power explanation of inner and outer soul and how this affects Suzu's status as Ayakashi Medium. Very much needed at this point of the story. Suzu could probably be even more powerful than Matsuri if she gains control over her power.

OBO: I liked this chapter, should have been 2nd one in my opinion.

CSM: Lol, Comedy still great. Can't wait to see what the Council of Jobbers will accomplish next chapter. XDDD

HBC&D: This is the stuff I wanna read Tamura's work for! Though for some reason it made me miss Furuichi so much...

UU: Hoooooooh boy! Lotsa stuff happening, some so fast and quickly you might see some reading it through first. In any case I am glad this fight is just starting and not over yet. Success and failure still are both possible outcomes for this battle , so it actually does feel tense as you won't know which way it will go next chapter. Also this was one hell of a sick kiss, at least I think I haven't seen this kind of kiss happening in any series I've read so far in my life and I read a lot of different mangas.^^

WNL: Melodrama much? This really felt straight outta a "Hospital" drama series. XD

Magu-chan: I can understand that other Chaos Goddess, sort of. Magu-chan cannot though, lol.

Moriking: Sweets are a serious business, whole families have broken over sweets~

AB: Cutest Chairman ever! <3 <3 <3 Man, this is jumping soooooo quickly from different themes to new themes and characters, it is hard to get a proper reading flow with it. Still like the silly boys, even if they don't make me laugh that much.^^
 

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1: Boku no Hero Academia
2: Agravity Boys
3: Jujutsu Kaisen
4: One Piece
5: Dr. Stone
6: Honomieru Shounen
7: Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
8: Hakaishin Magu-chan
9: Moriking
10: Mashle
11: Chainsaw-man
12: Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
13: Koukousei Kazoku
14: Undead Unluck
15: Yozakura-san Chi no Daisakusen
16: Ayakashi Triangle
17: Bokura no Ketsumei
18: Boku to Roboko

Some short comments about my top 5:
I think Boku no Hero Academia has been my first every time since I started posting here, but I'm loving this arc and I'm hyped every week. Seeing the chapter's title made me hope they don't do a super saiyan-like transformation like the movie.
Agravity Boys, as always, had a whole wall of text, but I'm not sure why I was laughing as much as I was. Maybe the author knows he's going to be cancelled and doesn't give a shit about anything anymore.
Also loving these Jujutsu Kaisen and One Piece arcs. Not much to comment because they are almost always good.
About Dr. Stone, I don't really like Senkuu at all, but I love its cast. It's full of interesting and funny characters and they deserve the spotlight much more. I love both Gen and Chrome.
 

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It is normal for a newbie not to get a hit right away, personally I was surprised that Mashle and UxU did it together, which was good to jump, and at the same time sad that Guardian of the witch was the only one of the three to be canceled.
I think that's why Bokura doesn't bother me, as much as most are bothered, personally I didn't find these episodes as horrible as many people are talking about, as if they wanted a masterpiece.
At least, the author of Bokura may have a 2nd chance if canceled.
Unlike Moriking, who is Tomohiro Hasegawa's third attempt, he can try in another magazine but this one doesn't come back to jump.
 

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MHA: I am REALLY curious to se the aftermath of this entire arc. I honestly wasnt expecting something like this, and if well done, chapters like these can stand out even more. Naturally how impactful this chapter is depends on how much you care about the character in question - it's gonna surprise a lot of people regardless of which side you fall on. Certainly surprised me, at least.
 

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Next poll will be open in few hours, thanks for your votes! :^_^

MANGAHELPERS POLL ISSUE #42 (2020) - VOTING RESULTS

1. Chainsaw Man 85 - 109 J-Points

2. Mashle 31 - 97 J-Points
3. My Hero Academia 284 - 88 J-Points
4. Undead Unluck 32 - 83 J-Points

5. Jujutsu Kaisen 122 - 69 J-Points
6. Magu-chan: God of Destruction 12 - 52 J-Points
7. Phantom Seer 4 - 39 J-Points
8. Mission: Yozakura Family 51 - 36 J-Points
9. Dr. Stone 166 - 31 J-Points
10. Kokosei Kazoku 4 - 27 J-Points
11. Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin 11 - 26 J-Points
12. Ayakashi Triangle 13 - 25 J-Points
13. Kaiju No.8 11 - 24 J-Points
14. We Never Learn 174 - 21 J-Points
15. Dragon Ball Super 64 - 19 J-Points
16. Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 50 - 13 J-Points
17. Me & Roboco 10 - 13 J-Points
18. Black Clover 265 - 12 J-Points
19. Bokura no Ketsumei 2 - 11 J-Points

20. Agravity Boys 36 - 9 J-Points
21. Excuse Me Dentist, It's Touching Me! 7 & 8 - 8 J-Points
22. World's End Harem: Britannia Lumiére 10 & 11 - 5 J-Points

23. Moriking 20 - 3 J-Points

Notes:

-36 Poll Voters + 26 Comment Voters
-Tied mangas decided by which is older
-Total number of votes is the combined between both polls
-One Piece was absent in this issue
 

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My enjoyment of this week’s MHA will depend entirely on the aftermath, and whether X gets crippled, or what kind of Quirk will awaken from here, if there is one.

What I love about WNL’s senpai route is how Taishi progressively raised the stakes and it all makes sense without being overly dramatized, plus it gives excellent character development for Asumi outside of her romantic endeavors.
 

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Question for the polls, will the Rengoku oneshot and gaiden be added on the polls?
 

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This 4rd chapter for Phantom Seer was really enjoyed compared to chapter 3, i don't know, i'm having the feeling the series will survive or at least have a decent start in the rankings, in the twitter polls it's doing good too (yes i know that isn't only jp readers voting but still...), seems like is the classic "nothing original but it's well done and consistent", would be cool to see GFC curse finally broken.

Question for the polls, will the 3 Rengokus oneshot be added on the polls?
Yes.
 
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This end of arc of corp and douphin was very anti-climactic, it was worse than that of the Yozakura Family
 
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