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Daily Shoseki Top 500 (8/11)

2. My Hero Academia #1
6. Dr. Stone #22
35. Mashle #7
41. The Elusive Samurai #2
62. Blue Box #1
93. Ayakashi Triangle #5
 

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Red Hood: I did NOT expect this series to feature crabs bombing each other. The world-building got a whole lot more interesting, to the point where it almost feels like a different series, and the story itself acknowledges that those other guys were a waste of time. Let’s see where this new start will take us. (I don’t mind another exam arc. They’re usually fun.)

Neru: Huh. That amazing ninja came down pretty easily in the end, didn’t he? Still fun. I hope he’s smart enough to turn in his stuff before having it stolen and/or getting involved in other people’s fights.

BB: Poor, brave girl. Now I feel bad for her. The boy isn’t being a very good friend. (I don't think it’s really about romance at this point, she’s just upset about potentially losing someone important to her.)

Mashle: Did I miss a chapter? We were in the middle of fighting a giant monster before. I guess the author figured things were getting too serious.

WW: Okay, I did NOT see that coming. That’s a bona fide shocking twist, in a series where I wasn’t expecting it. This issue has a lot of surprises.

Dr Stone: Cooking up some donuts? For a moment I thought they were referencing Dragon Ball Super. But I love how they are still trying to explain everything, rather than just telling us they made something. Sai is such an adorable child.

Sakamoto: Nice to see them tackle something other than fighting. I hope the creepy stalker doesn’t stick around though.

BC: It’s not often you see a hero fangirling about his teammates.

UU: Nice calm before the storm.

Candy: Those kids aren’t evil, they’re barely criminals. I could see the blond boy and girl ending up together. I also like the use of tilted panels in this.

Bleach: That’s not an ending, that’s a beginning. Though I’m starting to wonder how things went (relatively) well for so long with the SS systematically mishandling massive threats to the universe.


Princess: Congratulations, you both suck. But at least you’re doing it with conviction.

Most non-WSJ chapters were really good, too.


One more language on MangaPlus.
No One Piece in Russian? Then Spy x Family is the only one left who’s got all the languages.

OP, BC, Monster8 and Choujin X are in second place with five; then JJK with four, and MHA, Dr Stone and Hell's Paradise: Jigokuraku with three.

Odd choices.

Magu chan 7600... it didnt even arrive at 10k 🙁 I wonder why people are not liking it. It's very enjoyable and the characters and the little monsters are lovable
I can't speak for anyone else here, obviously, but I don't really like any of the characters (except Uneras, maybe) or the humour, and the story is.. non-existent, mostly.

So I think you answered your own question: it's enjoyable for those who love the characters, but it offers little for those who don't.

16. Me & Roboco: I remember the last time we had a "double issue" chapter it was one of the best for the series. This time it was still funny, but there is this feeling of having been there already. I heard there are many HxH references, unfortunately it has been too long since I read it, maybe if I was able to get them I would have liked this chapter more.
I believe it's about the narration text boxes, mostly.

18. Candy Flurry: Girl is overpowered. I still don't get how "having a giant lollipop" can be considered as the supreme superpower among all of the others that have been shown so far. Lol at how far in the background she is in the cover group.
It's not? What makes you think that "having a giant lollipop" is considered a supreme superpower? Nobody ever said that.

Sure, the guy who destroyed Tokyo with his lollipops is considered the supreme villain, but that's because he destroyed Tokyo, not because he has lollipops. From what we've seen so far, any of the top sweets users could easily do the same thing, and they are all considered equally powerful and dangerous.

19. Ayakashi Triangle: I am disappointed at the reveal of the new character (apart from the fact that she revealed "a lot"). If she really is who she says she is, that's not the personality I was expecting her to have. But I think and I hope it's just some kind of illusion.
Can't really blame her for turning her back on humans after they murdered her for no reason. Repeatedly.
 

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Can't really blame her for turning her back on humans after they murdered her for no reason. Repeatedly
I’m very open to the possibility of her doing this out of her own free will. But given the tone of the series, it’s most likely that some dark forces are at play taking advantage of her at her most vulnerable.
 

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I’m very open to the possibility of her doing this out of her own free will. But given the tone of the series, it’s most likely that some dark forces are at play taking advantage of her at her most vulnerable.
Doing what exactly? All she's done so far is knock out an exorcist who was trying to kill her little ayakashi friend. That's legal self-defence at worst and stopping a bully at best.

If she starts going after innocent humans to hurt them, I'll question her motivations. But protecting ayakashi who do no harm? Seems totally in character to me.
 

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That's part of it, but the style/paneling is also similar for those scenes (e.g.):

And then obviously the dodgeball stuff at the end.
Meruem walking between Netero and Zeno reference was also a panel for panel copy
 

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I can't speak for anyone else here, obviously, but I don't really like any of the characters (except Uneras, maybe) or the humour, and the story is.. non-existent, mostly.

So I think you answered your own question: it's enjoyable for those who love the characters, but it offers little for those who don't.

I am honestly praying that the series has an outcome similar to Katekyo hitman rebron with real fights and serious story... The series would grow a lot. I Wonder what Magu chan's editor is doing 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
 

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I am honestly praying that the series has an outcome similar to Katekyo hitman rebron with real fights and serious story... The series would grow a lot. I Wonder what Magu chan's editor is doing 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
It's clear that Jump is looking towards the ancillary market for Magu's future. Selling out a 20 buck little plush probably confirmed that anyways.
 

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Anyway volume 5 is already in stock... maybe with the next volumes it will sell more than this. They should print more
 

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I am honestly praying that the series has an outcome similar to Katekyo hitman rebron with real fights and serious story... The series would grow a lot. I Wonder what Magu chan's editor is doing 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
Magu deals in serious arcs around the end of every volume, but that isn't exactly what the series is known for. It's better to float along as Jump's uncontested SOL manga than try to compete with Undead Unluck, Mashle, and Sakamoto Days when it currently has a fraction of their sales.
 

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Magu-chan being a SoL is probably part of the reason it's been safe so far even with lower sales, because it fits a "niche" in Shonen Jump, i think trying to go the same route as Yozakura/Reborn wouldn't work really well.
 

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Magu-chan being a SoL is probably part of the reason it's been safe so far even with lower sales, because it fits a "niche" in Shonen Jump, i think trying to go the same route as Yozakura/Reborn wouldn't work really well.
The problem is that magu chan is not the "only" SoL of jump, after all it has Witch watch and blue box.
 

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The problem is that magu chan is not the "only" SoL of jump, after all it has Witch watch and blue box.
WW is a mix of everything like Sket Dance and Blue Box is a romance mixing sports, Magu-chan is more "pure" SoL than both
 

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WW is a mix of everything like Sket Dance and Blue Box is a romance mixing sports, Magu-chan is more "pure" SoL than both
It's just that it can't be totally pure these days. Mixing with other genres attracts more audience.
 

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It's just that it can't be totally pure these days. Mixing with other genres attracts more audience.
Magu is SOL mixed with Comedy (and a little battle thrown in for good measure).
WW is Comedy mixed with SOL (and a little battle thrown in for good measure).

Pure SOL can work perfectly fine, mind you, but I don't think Magu-chan needs to change one way or another. It is doing just fine how it is, having outlived various sports, comedy, and battle shonen series. When it ends, it will be on its own terms, without changing into a genre that the author doesn't seem to want it to be.

Either way, I agree with Shinuki no Reborn that trying to pull a Yozakura would probably backfire.
 

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It's clear that Jump is looking towards the ancillary market for Magu's future. Selling out a 20 buck little plush probably confirmed that anyways.
It's not a bad idea I don't even read the series and I kinda want to buy plushies out of those characters
 

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Magu is SOL mixed with Comedy (and a little battle thrown in for good measure).
WW is Comedy mixed with SOL (and a little battle thrown in for good measure).

Pure SOL can work perfectly fine, mind you, but I don't think Magu-chan needs to change one way or another. It is doing just fine how it is, having outlived various sports, comedy, and battle shonen series. When it ends, it will be on its own terms, without changing into a genre that the author doesn't seem to want it to be.

Either way, I agree with Shinuki no Reborn that trying to pull a Yozakura would probably backfire.
Magu chan is not doing that well, seeing as he spends most of his time at the botton and so far he has not exceeded 20K sales.

And I think you're pushing a lot a difference between magu chan and WW, just to justify the survival of the series.
 

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If Shinohara's past series are an indication, I expect Witch watch will gradually shift focus so that drama is the core content.
 

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And it's not always that mixing with other genres attracts more audiences works, Ayakashi tries to mix ecchi and action and it didn't attract more people in fact it could be said to have the opposite effect.
 
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