Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Finestela]

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It is, more of a shoujo thing as oppose to shounen thing
I mean LaLa and Hana to Yume both have yearly drama CDs featuring the popular series. Also, the older series would almost always get individual drama CD at one point.

But for shounen series, they seem to be more of a "testing the water for anime".

 

[eni]

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Oh, Yoshimori's voice? That would fit perfectly my personal imagination of the character. Nice choice.

Hm... Fine, maybe also because a 'bishie voice' whispering sweet words into a fangirl ear promotes a manga better than a audio battle does when it tries to sell explosions and kick-ass weapons to the average teen boy ^^

The soft voice of the seiyuu is surely a selling point for shoujo drama cds. It adds a lot to the character when you imagine him with that smexy sound. But something like Bleach as an audio cd... uhm... that would require a whole story focused on pure character interactions without any impressive visuals. May simply not work for the majority of action shounen to feature it as a regular media, I guess. But Sket has a good basic for it.

 

[[Cross]]

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Hm...I get the feeling that I'm getting overly excited for something that might come out later than I expected. How long do series usually take to get their anime after a drama CD? TLR's drama CD was released in February 2008 and the anime aired in April of that same year, so maybe given the release date of this drama CD, we might have something to go on.

 

[Kaiten]

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They usually announce drama CD first, wait a bit, and then announce the anime. I'm assuming the anime will air in October. And I doubt they'd bother hiring such well known seiyu if an anime weren't in development.

 

[Finestela]

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Well, TLR's drama cd was actually announced in September 2007 Though it didn't come out until February 2008.

The anime announcement came in late December 2007. So that's about 3 full months before the anime aired.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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A little OT, who do you think would be the right for the seiyuu of Rikuo (Mago) and Ageha (psyren) if they are made into anime?

 

[Crude]

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Hmmph, Yumiko Kobayashi (Black Star, though with a calm voice) for normal Rikuo and Daisuke Ono (Sebastian from Kuroshitsuji) or Daisuke Namikawa (Ulquiorra) for his other self. As for Ageha, Fukuyama Jun (Lelouch, I was always pictured him for Ageha for some reason), Kenichi Suzumura (Lavi from DGM), actually I'm not really sure about who is VA should be.

 

[VASSiLi]

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uhuh glad to see bakuman out of bottom 5!

 

[Heiji-sama]

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[¬Bol]

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Why is Kuroko in bottom 5?
Why is Psyren in bottom 5 (again)?
Why? ç____ç

 

[Tru_TO]

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do you think the Bleach plot can get good again, cuz its boring as fuck atm.

 

[Koen]

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What's with people saying psyren in bottom 5? Might be better to check everything because if you can count well psyren is not in the bottom 5: there's hoop men, TLR, Kuroko, Sket and Mago -> that's a bottom 5

So psyren is just out of the danger zone

 

[youko kurama]

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A little OT, who do you think would be the right for the seiyuu of Rikuo (Mago) and Ageha (psyren) if they are made into anime?

for Ageha the same seiyu than Yusuke Urameshi

and Rikuo: Kappei Yamaguchi (Inuyasha, Ranma, L) for both roles

 

[SameOld]

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Unfortunately if you don't promote a series that shows signs of popularity early you end up with Psyren and Sket, series that have achieved a degree of popularity but haven't lived up to their potential.

There's "not pimping", "pimping" and "pimping too much". Sket and Psyren were not pimped. Beelze is being pimped too much when simply being pimped would suffice. That's the point I'm trying to make.

With Hoop Men (or Bokke, My Star, etc.) you know your audience has rejected it by chapter 3. Why try and force them to read it? That's not how advertising works. You don't keep pounding New Coke down peoples throat, you reintroduce Coke Classic and cut your losses. Same with Hoop Men; get enough chapters for two volumes, cancel it, and introduce something that might get a positive reaction. And of course, you concentrate time, effort, and money on product that theirs demand for.

I think you're taking what I said about Hoop in another post way too seriously. Fine, let's ignore Hoop. But what about stuff like Psyren, Sket and Mago (i.e. NOT rejected by fans, but still receiving far less attention than they should)? It's okay to not want to bet on something that had no chance from the start, but they could make the middle tier series sell even more if they put some effort into advertising them.

How many times will I have to repeat the word "fair distribution" here? I don't want Hoop to become the new spotlight in Jump, nor do I want them to pretend Beelze doesn't exist. I want stuff that still holds a chance to be invested on at least a little (because right now the investment in Psy/Sket/Mago, as far as covers and CPs go, is ZERO).

BTW: Jump does not have two huge hits. 15 series, not counting the upcoming volumes of Eyeshield, are hits when compared to the sales of series from any other magazine. Considering the least popular series sell as much as the middle tier of Sunday or Magazine, that's a pretty loaded roster.

When I said "two huge hits", I was talking only about the newcomers, that is, Kuroko and Beelze. Psyren, Sket and Mago are hits, but they are not - and will never be - as huge as Jump expects Beelze and Kuroko to become (keyword: expects). Not as long as things stay the way they are now, anyway.

 

[M-Hario]

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Lol wut? Bleach above than Naruto in sales? That's new.

 

[Finestela]

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Lol wut? Bleach above than Naruto in sales? That's new.

The thing is that, it's the 6 month tally of "all the tanks for a series". And it just so happens that Bleach had one more tank volume than Naruto... (3 vs 2)

 

[Kaiten]

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Full Top 50/Lots of Jump

Spoiler

 

[Finestela]

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I'd say the majority of it is Shueisha
Square Enix is mainly just FMA and Soul Eater = ="
Poor Hakusensha... I can count series from you guys on the list in one hand :'(

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

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Are these figure really accurate? I heard they aren't 100% accurate, but I guess it'll be close enough.

 

[Kaiten]

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I'd say the majority of it is Shueisha
Square Enix is mainly just FMA and Soul Eater = ="
Poor Hakusensha... I can count series from you guys on the list in one hand :'(

What about Kuroshitsuji? I bet every volume they release in '09 will be a best seller by year end. Hakusensha has no excuse :P Only three titles. Didn't Berserk have a volume out during this period? Or did Japan finally give up on it? 1st Day did pretty well, that's good. Margaret Comics didn't, not happy

Are these figure really accurate? I heard they aren't 100% accurate, but I guess it'll be close enough.

There the most accurate numbers anyone in or out of Japan will see. Remember that some series have volumes included that came out right before the tracking period or during the last months. Those volumes will look to low. Naruto 44 and 46 for instance. Volume 45's sales is Naruto's average.