Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Kaiten]

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Technically Psyren is 2008 since it debuted in issue 1. Manga follows a December 1 - November 31 year for copyright purposes. That's why Death Note and Gintama (issue 1 and 2, 2004) are sometimes listed as 2003 series. Taking that into consideration, 2008 becomes the most successful year since 2004, with four series lasting over a year. There were five in 2004.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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Ah a Kochikame color. I'd have preferred if something else got it but oh well.

KochiKame getting a color is harmless, let the series have it.

The bigger surprise for the moment is Reborn's collapse: Gintama's problems have sort of become known for a while now, but Reborn's...well, we've just had that many successful series as of late so it's not like it can't be without consequence for the older series. Then again...with Akaboshi bombing (yeah, To-Love gets protection again, starting to make me joke that if a series goes below that, it's cook) and Medaka sinking as well, I doubt those two will last for much longer.

 

[Kaiten]

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Medaka, at least, has Kuroko to protect it. That won't help much if either Hoshino or Togashi come back in September or October.

 

[Siberia]

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btw, may I ask a question here?
Tennis no Ôjisama used to be in WSJ but did it end naturally or it was cut.

 

[Finestela]

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btw, may I ask a question here?
Tennis no Ôjisama used to be in WSJ but did it end naturally or it was cut.

Well.. you could argue both ways I guess... With PoT's ranking being on the lower part of the magazine...

However, it ended with a CP, and it didn't end in the last place, so... I personally would like to think that the WSJ serialization is a natural ending.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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It was a bit of both. PoT was near the bottom and it seemed to some that it was going to end after the tournament so it probably was either meant to end there or just decided to do so because of this.

 

[Koen]

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There's no such thing as a natural ending in wsj. Let's say PoT wasn't axed but it had - what felt like - an unnatural ending

 

[Rejuvenation]

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PoT had a rushed ending. I recently read the series and the way things played out in that final match and chapter can't be seen as anything BUT that. The low rankings it had by that point at least explain it. It and Eyeshield have that much in common it seems.

Also this sequel in Jump SQ is lack luster.

 

[Siberia]

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how about the sales of ToC's volume? I think it has more than 40 volumes n did they sell well?? (I wouldn't ask that if Im able to find the data , so I would appreciate if someone can tell me about that lol)

 

[Mr. Prince]

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Latest number I found for Prince of Tennis #42 was a little over 310.000 copies...
The whole series has more than 42.000.000 copies on circulation.

 

[Kaiten]

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Rumors about PoT ending started in September of '07. It was widely known that the end was coming after the tournament. It had to have been a natural, planned ending; it received a cover and two color over the course of it's final three chapters. I doubt they would have brought it back in SQ if it were canceled.

Moving series from Jump to other magazines isn't that unusual. Beshari Gurashi moved to Young Jump after 40 chapters, Steel Ball Run and Bastard to Ultra Jump, Captain Tsubasa was revived as a Young Jump series, a Nube spin off is in Super Jump.

 

[kewl0210]

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If you've been paying attention, Gintama's ranking has gone like this:
(I'm just gonna do the whole thing, it's too much of a pain to see what's ranked and what isn't.)
Issue 27: 15th
Issue 28: 11th
Issue 29: 15th
Issue 30: 13th (color)
Issue 31: 2nd
Issue 32: 16th
Issue 33: 5th
Issue 34: 15th~ (Whatever 5th from the bottom is right now)
See the pattern? It's been going up and down forever...

But the weird thing is recently everything's flipfloped. Bleach is lower, Sket Dance and Mago are higher. But now Reborn is low, which opens up possibilities... Psyren, Nurarihyon, Sket all need to be high up with Toriko and Bleach this issue. Well Toriko has the cover, so not there, but up near Bleach's and Inumaru Dashi's area.

Also, it's worth noting that despite Inumaru Dashi being really high in TOC, it's volume sales are no better than Kuroko's. If not worse.

 

[Digital_Eon]

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Could Inumaru be placed? With Gintama flip-flopping, Kochikame near the middle/end of the magazine, and Jaguar at the end, I could see why they'd place a gag series nearer to the front. Perhaps this new series will mess up that balance?

Also, is it possible that DGM's returning in Akamaru Jump is to promote the magazine itself? As Kaiten.Sama said, it's a big series - having the cover and a colour page, as well as such an anticipated... and long... chapter of return might be a good way to sell copies of Akamaru.

I've thought about a move for years now... it seems to have lots of readers outside the WSJ audience, but could it mean a drop in sales if DGM isn't weekly, or if it doesn't have the promotion it currently does in WSJ?

Besides, I think a more important question to ask is if a series has ever moved from Jump to another shounen magazine. Young and Ultra Jump are both seinen magazines, and (currently?), so is Super Jump. SQ may have a different audience than WSJ, but it's still a shounen magazine. So if a series COULD stay in Jump, physical ability to put a chapter out every week notwithstanding...

 

[Crude]

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Akaboshi's pacing may be bad, but still, last place is a little harsh. Maybe I'm just upset that a series with such great art is so low. Well it's good to see Psyren, Mago and Sket doing well.

 

[predsfan]

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Meh, I liked the fake ToC better (I don't think I read any of the ones in the bottom 5 of that one). Also, it came with a One Piece colors. The actual ToC's is far more disappointing. I actually read some of the series that are in the bottom five. Oh well, at least Mago's been doing better as of late.

 

[kewl0210]

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Inumaru Dashi was lower like 12th the lowest in weeks before. All the sites that just list all the placements are all outdated and for whatever reason stopped updating all of a sudden... But yeah around issue 27 of this year it was like 12th. So doesn't seem like it's placed. Also that's kinda unfair for it to be placed if Jaguar isn't. I'm sure it's just getting popular off its references to jump stuff and whatnot. It has a lotta references. I'll get to those parts someday...

One Piece may be nearing a climax of some sort... I can't even tell, next issue will be the start of part-3, and most likely last (unless there's a reunion arc) of the "Luffy without crew" arc. But regardless, it would probably be saving the color for that. They do somewhat strategically place them.

 

[Siberia]

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its fine to move the series from WSJ to other magazines if the sales of each volume is average but it might be risky to move a high selling series, of course u can argue DGM doesn't aim at WSJ readers.

Im kinda surprised when the Toc is becoming odd, especially its yo-yo poll.
With their ongoing anime n good sales of each volume, Gintama n hitman are definitely safe

 

[user216]

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I don't wish to sound like a troll, but whats with naruto's consistent high rankings?
Admittedly its a good manga, but not enough to dominate the polls.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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The popularity of naruto can be seen by it's sales per volume which amount to more than 1 million each. The only one that can beat it is One Piece which can reach 2 million. Both outsold every other manga in Jump. So, it's not hard to see why it dominated the TOC. It's just that popular.

 

[pandaaqueen]

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I don't wish to sound like a troll, but whats with naruto's consistent high rankings?
Admittedly its a good manga, but not enough to dominate the polls.

Due to a reliable fanbase :-D