Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Finestela]

November Tank Sales Ranking (for first print) from Shueisha is out:
http://comics-news.shueisha.co.jp/common/ranking/index.html

01. Naruto 44
02. Kimi ni Todoke 08 (Bessatsu Margaret)
03. Reborn 22
04. EyeShield 21 32
05. Yu-Gi-Oh GX 04 (V-Jump)
06. Switch Girl 07 (Margaret)
07. Shinshi Doumei Cross 11 (Ribon)
08. Five 10 (Bessatsu Margaret)
09. Kure-nai 02 (Jump SQ)
10. 81 Diver 09 (Weekly Young Jump)
11. Beshari Gurashi 07 (Weekly Young Jump)
12. Countach 14 (Weekly Young Jump)
13. Matsuri Special 02 (Jump SQ)
14. Rockin' Heaven 08 (Ribon)
15. Ninku Second Stage 06 (Ultra Jump)
16. Rozen Maiden New Edition 07 (Weekly Young Jump)
17. Chocolate Cosmos 04 (Ribon)
18. Binbou-Gami ga 01 (Jump SQ)
19. Toriko 01~02
20. Sing Yesterday For Me 06 (Business Jump)

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jeez... I didn't realize there were so many hard-hitters from the shoujo department untill after looking at the list... (There are actually 4 series which I follow from time to time).

Toriko's sales is kinda bad... I mean I assume they took the average of Vol.01 and 02? It sold less than Binbou-Gami for crying out loud...

Reborn and ES21 were decent, but didn't manage to beat a first tier Shoujo series like Kimi ni Todoke...

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Gah....how I hate Shoujo....

I assume Toriko is low due to the rumored shortage of supply.

And the basketball manga looks cool too. I hope it isn't Bokkesan who fails. I love Nishi.

 

[ssjohn]

Lol, i have only read on shojo title on there (SDC), anyways glad YGO:GX sold well, i feel a little bad for Tokrio but didn't it initially do very well? like sold out and had to reprint? was the first printing so low?

 

[Finestela]

That's what poped to my mind at first.

But here's the thing... I would assume they'd have more first print for Toriko than Binbou-Gami... and yet Binbou-Gami ranked higher than Toriko...?

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Why do people think Toriko's vol. 1/2 sales average was bad? Do you know how hard it is for a vol. 1 of any shonen to even break in to the top 20? I say it's a great run for it...but at the same time Binbougami being higher shows it may be a hit as well.

 

[Kaiten]

Reborn and ES21 were decent, but didn't manage to beat a first tier Shoujo series like Kimi ni Todoke...

Kimi is a big deal and a better manga then Reborn and Eyeshield (and Naruto now that I think about it) so let's not hold that against them. There's nothing wrong about being out sold by a better written, more original story. This is more about Kimi being a great series.

Can't blame a shortage of copies on Toriko's poor performance; Shueisha had three weeks to get more copies out there. They fell out of the top thirty after one week. BTW: At the end of a chapter of the World God Only Knows the same message appeared. The "sold out of the first pressing" could just be a marketing line.

 

[Finestela]

I know, which is why I stated Kimi being a first-tier series (as matter of fact, I'd put it as #1 for Betsu-Margaret series)

(I'm a huge fan of Kimi Even worked on one of the Chinese Edited Manga group for a while)

As for it being better than Naruto... I wouldn't say that to be honest (though NANA would eat Naruto alive if you ask me... lol)

Regarding Toriko... it's just annoying to see it behind Binbou-gami. And why Shueisha would have the same amount of first prints (or even less) compare to a new Jump SQ series is beyond me.

 

[Kaiten]

Maybe there trying to build interest for volume three and will triple sales in February. :/

(Had to get that preemptive strike in on Kimi's behalf: I'm already prepared for ten people who haven't read it to bemoan the fact that it's ahead of two Jump series )

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Hey guys, how well did Gintama's first volume sell?

 

[Xophien]

Not sure at the time of its release, but it's sold more than one million now. That's HUGE.

 

[Finestela]

It was out in April 2004... I've just checked the first print ranking archive, and Gintama 01 didn't get into the top 20 for that month...

However, DeathNote 01 was #7, beating Busou Renkin 02

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Komi is back with another oneshot in Issue 4-5.

 

[Xophien]

It was out in April 2004... I've just checked the first print ranking archive, and Gintama 01 didn't get into the top 20 for that month...

Then again, according to this source (which has nice figures for the sales of Jump mangas), Gintama's first volume was only released at 30,000 copies initially... Jump editors obviously didn't expect it to become a hit^^;

 

[Finestela]

Then again, according to this source (which has nice figures for the sales of Jump mangas), Gintama's first volume was only released at 30,000 copies initially... Jump editors obviously didn't expect it to become a hit^^;

See, I can understand why Gintama's first print is so low... but Toriko? I mean we saw editor expectation from week one, and yet they did this? Come on...

 

[Kaiten]

Is it possible there expectations were higher then they should have been?

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

It can't still be top five after all this time without some postcards.

 

[sandeep]

November Tank Sales Ranking (for first print) from Shueisha is out:
http://comics-news.shueisha.co.jp/common/ranking/index.html

01. Naruto 44
02. Kimi ni Todoke 08 (Bessatsu Margaret)
03. Reborn 22
04. EyeShield 21 32
05. Yu-Gi-Oh GX 04 (V-Jump)
06. Switch Girl 07 (Margaret)
07. Shinshi Doumei Cross 11 (Ribon)
08. Five 10 (Bessatsu Margaret)
09. Kure-nai 02 (Jump SQ)
10. 81 Diver 09 (Weekly Young Jump)
11. Beshari Gurashi 07 (Weekly Young Jump)
12. Countach 14 (Weekly Young Jump)
13. Matsuri Special 02 (Jump SQ)
14. Rockin' Heaven 08 (Ribon)
15. Ninku Second Stage 06 (Ultra Jump)
16. Rozen Maiden New Edition 07 (Weekly Young Jump)
17. Chocolate Cosmos 04 (Ribon)
18. Binbou-Gami ga 01 (Jump SQ)
19. Toriko 01~02
20. Sing Yesterday For Me 06 (Business Jump)
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jeez... I didn't realize there were so many hard-hitters from the shoujo department untill after looking at the list... (There are actually 4 series which I follow from time to time).

Toriko's sales is kinda bad... I mean I assume they took the average of Vol.01 and 02? It sold less than Binbou-Gami for crying out loud...

Reborn and ES21 were decent, but didn't manage to beat a first tier Shoujo series like Kimi ni Todoke...

What is the number 44 besides naruto?? Is that volume of sales or rank??

 

[predsfan]

What is the number 44 besides naruto?? Is that volume of sales or rank??

It's the volume number.

Anyways, Jump is kicking off 2009 in an awesome way. Two new sports manga (I already like Meister, and I'm hoping the basketball one will be good) and Bokke-san looks interesting. Plus, another Komi one-shot makes me . That issue is before the break right (I mean it goes, #2, #3, #4-5, and then a break) or is it the other way around?

One more question, is it definitely a one shot, or is it a Double Arts omake? Or can omake refer to a one shot as well? I ask because about all I can make out of the text is the word omake.

 

[Koen]

Jump planning

- 08-14 December : Chapters Jump #03
- 15-21 December : Chapters Jump #04-05
- 22-28 December : Chapters Jump #06-07
- 29 December - 11 January : None
- 12-18 January: Chapters Jump #08


#04-05 (22 December) :
Naoshi Komi (Double Arts) / One Shot

 

[Succubus]

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