Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Maxy Barnard]

it gets a oneshot more attention with the online world so i can't complain

 

[Rejuvenation]

I'm very interested in where Sket and Psyren have placed this week. If they are closer to the center rather than just outside of the bottom 5 I'll be happy. Now Mago just needs to rise a bit.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

i reckon one of them will be in the top 5 at least.

and mago can stay where it is, it's D gray level solid, and that'll do it fine

 

[StrangerAtaru]

It does seem odd that we're this close to Beezle ranking and it keeps getting CPs, just like a few of the more recent newer series that seemed to have potential (Toriko, Bakuman, Kuroko). Is it actually confident of success or is it sort of showing from the early postcards?

The Murata one-shot...somehow I'm starting to think that he's beginning to set up for "life after ES21". I want the series done too but somehow with essentially only a half-game left (literally), life after ES21 is almost here and, being that Murata does seem to get rather well along with Jump staff (what being the artist for those posters last year), he's being given some space to experiment once again with new ideas and such. (though he really should wait until after ES21 is in the can)

And...we'll probably be saying it all week but I think it's time to stop and thank Matsui for one of the very few "mission accomplishes" we get in this magazine. For all those series that are forced to rush to a finale and just overextend itself, Neuro did everything it wanted and needed to do, just like Muhyo did with one less year. It will be weird to not have anything so...weird still in the magazine but I think Matsui will probably move on to stranger things with this done.

 

[[Cross]]

oh certainly, I'm pleasantly surprised that Neuro made it this far and did what it set out to do. Hopefully such a trend will catch on, but we can only dream.

 

[Crude]

Matsui needs a little time to improve his drawings. He's great at toning among other stuff, but his human characters always looked pretty bad (although Neuro looked alright).

I really don't get why Hoop Men is so low. It's got a refreshing story and cool characters, not to mention nice art (minus chapter 6 which didn't look that good, especially anatomy-wise). Is Kuroko that much better, at least in portraying action scenes?

 

[[Cross]]

Well in the initial chapters, there weren't as many scenes as Kuroko. Then again, I don't get it either, since I enjoy Hoop more than Kuroko.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

Sket seems close to accomplishing all it'd want to. i mean the only loose ends are true closure for the characters on everything, and any romantic ties to be finalised or exist.

love trouble accomplished all it wanted to a long time ago if post year 1 is evidence of anything (except celine, that was necessary).

generally series are getting to do what they want at the moment, and it's pleasing

 

[StrangerAtaru]

oh certainly, I'm pleasantly surprised that Neuro made it this far and did what it set out to do. Hopefully such a trend will catch on, but we can only dream.

It all depends actually. As explained above, quite a few series get what they want to done within a time period, whether it be really short (Hatsukoi) or longer. There are some series though that really have more potential but screws with it...badly. (To-Love post year 1) And then there are some series that seem to finish their job, start something new with the same characters to keep it going and make a few more bucks...and it falls apart.

 

[Koen]

hey, anyone who can check if that box next to ichigo on the preview page is similar to this ToC. Man am I glad psyren has gotten out of that bottom for a while now

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

I think the jump editors are having a change of heart. They actually are letting series live!

 

[Rejuvenation]

I think the jump editors are having a change of heart. They actually are letting series live!

It might be too early to jump to that conclusion just yet. I want to see how things turn out by the end of this year first. >.>

Although if they really are starting to switch over to a less trigger happy state I'll be happy.

 

[Kaiten]

Could it be that fewer series are cancelable? There were so many cancellations in 2007 and 2008 because most of the new series from 2005, 2006, and 2007 were garbage. At any given point the entire bottom five could be filled with new series. With Neuro going their will only be two series from '05 - '07 still in the magazine, To Love Ru and Sket Dance. By contrast the four series that survived 2008 all have showed some sign of staying power. Toriko and Bakuman both appear to be magazine mainstays. Psyren debuted high and was constantly in the middle of the magazine for at 30 chapters. Recently it's climbed it's way back up. Mago also debuted high and stayed there for a long time. While it hasn't stayed out of the basement consistently it's developed enough of a fan base that tankobon sales are keeping it out of consistent danger. Those four series have locked up enough space that the editors probably wouldn't consider it worthwhile to add more then two series at a time. Most of that room will be made with cancellations from the class of 2009. I'm predicting high turn over from this years new series.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

There's also been more older series that have been ending lately, which in essence 'saves' a newer series, since that's one less series that would end at any given cut period.

Eyeshield 21 will also likely be ending later this year, which frees up lower ranked series a little more, as well.

 

[Kaiten]

Two of this weeks bottom five are over three years old but it won't help much. Hoop Men and Bokke - san are also in the bottom five. Both could be canceled before Eyeshield and ToRa end. I suspect three series will come in May with Hoop and Bokke ending. Eyeshield will most likely be stretched out till June or July with it's space being used for one of the August debuts.

 

[Digital_Eon]

Quick question - do my eyes deceive me, or is DGM not in that bottom... seven?

Farewell to Neuro. It had a great run, and it's a good sign that this series could end on its own terms.

 

[Kaiten]

Quick question - do my eyes deceive me, or is DGM not in that bottom... seven?

Huh. Didn't notice that myself. No your eyes are fine. DGM out of the bottom almost makes up for Mago being so low.

 

[kewl0210]

This is the issue corresponding to DGM's return, so it makes sense it's gone up.
Hoopmen's terrible, so it should bottom out.
Neuro ends, so something must replace it soon.
Beelzebub does seem pretty good. It sorta reminds me of Yu Yu Hakusho, though I don't think it'll get that deep. If it does it could certainly be good, but it'll need to last past the opening arc. It does seem popular enough to, this will be its first ranked issue since it had a color page last week.

I dunno what's up with Eyeshield, but I'm glad OP gets color pages when it comes back.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

With Neuro going their will only be two series from '05 - '07 still in the magazine, To Love Ru and Sket Dance.

Didn't Psyren debut in December of 2007?

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Beelzebub does seem pretty good. It sorta reminds me of Yu Yu Hakusho, though I don't think it'll get that deep. If it does it could certainly be good, but it'll need to last past the opening arc.

In what way does that ridulous series (I stop short of saying garbage) remind you of near-perfect Yu Yu Hakusho?

 

[Kaiten]

Manga anthologies start their fiscal year the first week of December. Psyren debuted in Issue 1 of 2008, released the first Monday of December, 2007.

This is the issue corresponding to DGM's return, so it makes sense it's gone up.

How so? This issue will be 7 weeks back.