Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[[Cross]]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

From what I understand, and I could be wrong, it's the same criteria. Fan response via the post cards and tankobon sales. Jump is the only magazine that cancels so quickly and adds so many new series. It's circulation is also much, much higher then most magazines; so what constitutes a hit is a much different thing.

The only anthologies I've ever heard of that don't care that much about fan response are the 1st Day magazines.

So are you implying that Jump has higher standards?

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

So are you implying that Jump has higher standards?

Depends on how you define higher standards Higher business standards, not quality control.

Basically Jump sells about 2.78 million magazines a week. Shonen Magazine is second with 1.9 million in circulation. Magazine, like every other anthology, sees it's circulation shrink every quarter. Jump sees a minor increase. Every magazine wants to see tankobon sales reflect a certain percentage of circulation. Thus To Love Ru, at about 500,000 copies per volume, sells about 18% of readers. That's phenomenal, having (almost) 2 out of every 10 readers purchasing volumes of a series is what every magazine dreams of. The equivilent in Magazine would be Fairy Tail, their most popular series. ToRa, on the other hand is the middle of the pack in Jump. If a mid level series is that popular it allows the bottom to become expendable. Series that don't immediately connect with readers, showing little potential for individual sales, can be scrapped before tankobon come out without any harm to the bottom line. And room can be opened for a series like Mago; something by an unknown artist that makes a quick connection with it's audience. Mago is selling to nearly 10% of Jump's circulation, and could surpass that later this year. Mago already outsells all but the most popular series in Magazine, the second most popular anthology.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Now that I think about it, Jump does seem to have higher expectations for it's series. I'm sure most other magazines would kill for a new series currently 6 volumes long to sell 50,000 copies (Psyren). But it's hanging on by a thread in Jump because of stuff like Bakuman, Toriko and Mago. When you can get new series that sell this much, why keep a manga that sells barely one-third as much and has almost twice as many volumes?

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

if mago, toriko or bakuman was serialized in magazine instead of jump, those three will easily destroy competition with only fairy tail as a competitor and even fairy tail tank's sales is not that high either. It average between 250k per volume.Only a bit higher than mago or toriko and lower than bakuman

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

if mago, toriko or bakuman was serialized in magazine instead of jump, those three will easily destroy competition with only fairy tail as a competitor and even fairy tail tank's sales is not that high either. It average between 250k per volume.Only a bit higher than mago or toriko and lower than bakuman

No, Fairy Tail is more popular. 250,000 sounds like 2 weeks of sales. Think closer to 400 - 500,000.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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Thx for correcting me, kaiten. I forgot that those sales are of the early volumes. The correct one for the more recent are just like you said, around 400-500k. And by early, I mean around the first three volume

 

[Tru_TO]

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do you think any of the big three manga can go for another 15 years?

 

[Siberia]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

do you think any of the big three manga can go for another 15 years?

I doubt if they can still be big three for another 15 yrs, its way too long ....

 

[Tru_TO]

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I doubt if they can still be big three for another 15 yrs, its way too long ....

i meant can any of the manga in it? I can see OP going for another 15-20

 

[Siberia]

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i meant can any of the manga in it? I can see OP going for another 15-20

OP should be fine, but not sure about Naruto and Bleach. (I have heard Bleach is getting worse, no ideas of it becoz I have given it up for ages.....)

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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One Piece and Naruto maybe, Bleach no. I just don't see it as a series that can still be interesting when it surpass 45-50 volume.

 

[Finestela]

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I'm not sure where the 400~500k figure is from for Fairy Tail... but the most current (and highest number) I can find is 344k at week 4 for FT Vol. 14 on Oricon. It didn't break 300k as late as Vol. 11.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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Who can last longer? Kochikame or OP!?

 

[Finestela]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Who can last longer? Kochikame or OP!?

If I must pick one, I would put my money on Kochikame...

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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OP is half over.

KochiKame ends when they pry the pen from Akimoto's dead body.

 

[GARusashi]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Oh god, OP is not half over. Oda said OP was half over 100 chapters ago. He'll probably say it again into the Marineford arc, and into the Fishman Island arc, and into the first island in the New World. "THIS NEW SAGA MARKS THE BEGINNING OF THE MIDDLE OF THE END OF MY SERIES"

The New World could easily be gigantic. I could see the New World lasting three times as long as the Grand Line has. There's so many things to be touched upon, and Oda definitely hasn't forgotten the random island formula from the Grand Line. And with the Shichibukai pretty much torn apart, I could see another group of villains brought up in the New World as well. Well I guess Doflamingo is still around, but the rest of the Shichibukai are pretty much useless as antagonists now.

But my bets on Kochikame lasting until the day JUMP goes off the shelves.

 

[[Cross]]

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But my bets on Kochikame lasting until the day JUMP goes off the shelves.

It'll just move to another magazine. Like Ataru said, Kochikame will die with Akimoto.

 

[kim09]

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I dropped Kuroko after chapter 20,it's heading to generic approach of sports genre. I like sports that go beyond the sports itself like REAL or Hoop Men.After Eyeshield 21 ends and Hoop Men get cancelled ,there'll be no sports manga that I read in WSJ unless there will be new sports series.

 

[Silverblade]

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As of now, Kuroko no Basket doesn't qualify as a worthy Eyeshield21 successor. ES has characters (we won't see another Hiruma anytime soon), style and good pacing, for the most part of it. While Kuroko just doesn't strike you as a big Jump sports manga like ES21 or SlamDunk, even with all Jump attempts.

 

[SameOld]

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It's too early to tell. If anything, this match against Seihou was much more enjoyable to me than Eyeshield's first few matches. The only things Kuroko needs now are focusing more on the rest of Seirin's team instead of only Kuroko and Kagami and making the matches last longer. Then it'll estabilish itself as a worthy sucessor to ES21 IMO.

...by the way, I think I may have acidentally clicked the report button of your post, aikyet. Sorry if it causes you any trouble. Why must the reply and report buttons be so close to each other? >_<