Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Maxy Barnard]

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1 Naruto
2 One Piece
3 Bleach
4 Beelzebub
5 Inumarudashi
6 Reborn
7 Sket Dance
8 Kuroko
9 Mago
10 Gintama
11 Bakuman
12 Psyren
13 To Love Ru
14 Hoop Men

Methinks Psyren and Sket Dance have the same fanbase, who alternate which one they vote for.

Gintama in the bottom 5 is.... kinda weird.

 

[Tru_TO]

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Oh god, OP is not half over. Oda said OP was half over 100 chapters ago. He'll probably say it again into the Marineford arc, and into the Fishman Island arc, and into the first island in the New World. "THIS NEW SAGA MARKS THE BEGINNING OF THE MIDDLE OF THE END OF MY SERIES"

The New World could easily be gigantic. I could see the New World lasting three times as long as the Grand Line has. There's so many things to be touched upon, and Oda definitely hasn't forgotten the random island formula from the Grand Line. And with the Shichibukai pretty much torn apart, I could see another group of villains brought up in the New World as well. Well I guess Doflamingo is still around, but the rest of the Shichibukai are pretty much useless as antagonists now.

But my bets on Kochikame lasting until the day JUMP goes off the shelves.

so how long will One Piece really be in terms of years? I mean Oda also wants to do a Mecha manga i've heard

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

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1 Naruto
2 One Piece
3 Bleach
4 Beelzebub
5 Inumarudashi
6 Reborn
7 Sket Dance
8 Kuroko
9 Mago
10 Gintama
11 Bakuman
12 Psyren
13 To Love Ru
14 Hoop Men

Methinks Psyren and Sket Dance have the same fanbase, who alternate which one they vote for.

Gintama in the bottom 5 is.... kinda weird.

What chapter is the Naruto rating based on? I would have thought the Nagato speech chapters would be ranked lower.

 

[eni]

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What chapter is the Naruto rating based on? I would have thought the Nagato speech chapters would be ranked lower.

Is that the ToC for the upcomig issue? *is a little out of loop here*
Then it should be, AFAIK: 451-8 = 443.

Spoiler: Which would be...

...the end of the Pain fight and finding/meeting Nagato.

Don't wonder about rankings. The Japanese readers' view often differs greatly on the opinions you'll find here at the forums on a certain chapter/arc ._.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Even though MedakaBox and Akaboshi are still unranked, I think they are going to last long because the editor put them in top and middle. The reason is that when Asklepios and Hoopmen started their series, even their first eight weeks, they were place in middle to low, and when they started to get ranked, they just go down to bottom 5. So, MedakaBox and Akaboshi are placing fairly high for unranked series.

 

[Finestela]

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Even though MedakaBox and Akaboshi are still unranked, I think they are going to last long because the editor put them in top and middle. The reason is that when Asklepios and Hoopmen started their series, even their first eight weeks, they were place in middle to low, and when they started to get ranked, they just go down to bottom 5. So, MedakaBox and Akaboshi are placing fairly high for unranked series.

Pre-Ch.8 isn't neccessary "unranked", but rather not following the same rule as every other series.

Their placement is still dictated by snap polls from reader's review on top of editor's review. If you go back and see the new series over the years, you'd realize how significant the steepness of the "drop" at Ch.3~5 means for the series in the long run.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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Don't like Gintama's position, but I do respect Beezle's & Sket's for some reason or another. And a good congrats for Toriko's first anniversary.

As for ES21...well, it lasted a bit longer than it should have, but I say this is a thumbs up from Jump for it's success and popularity in the long run. It's probably the first sports manga I've ever read (since most seemed so stereotypical to me in my head and I never wanted to read them, even stuff like Slam Dunk) and considering how it impressed me for so long (aside the later stuff), I congratulate Inagaki and Murata for a job well done. And...I sort of hope Murata doesn't try to rush into something so quickly for a solo work for his next series, that's all I say...

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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I still think the last arc was largely unneeded, but I guess it didn't hurt to tie up the loose ends with the american team.

Spoiler

And I'm glad they didn't have Japan beat america. That would've been RETARDED.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Is there any possible chance that Murata might return with his recent one shot, Blust?

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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Is there any possible chance that Murata might return with his recent one shot, Blust?

It will probably be a few months at least before we get any signs of anything new from them. Inagaki and Murata will probably get a one-shot (whether together or apart) in JSQ, but from there we'll see. Murata has had a few one-shots probably prepping for this moment, but from how it sounds, neither have been too good so my hope is that he either reteams with Inagaki or gets another writer before starting a new series.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Here are the Japanese Comic Rankings for this week. Man, check out Bakuman and D.Gray-Man...weird...

ps. Bleach is not doing so hot...neither is Psyren...


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-10/japanese-comic-ranking-june-1-7

 

[Koen]

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Kinda obvious. It's not like all those japanese have the money to buy 8 shueisha volumes in one time. Setting out priorities: psyren and sket dance are the manga they buy later (the last in their list) when they have spared some money after spending a lot of money to bleach, naruto, and others

so top manga are instant short term sellers, while "mediocre" manga are long term sellers

 

[Finestela]

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ANN is getting worse everyday = ="
They not only couldn't get the right cover for ToLoveRu 14, they couldn't even get the numbers right... (the #2 and #3 numbers are wrong).

Here's the corret numbers:

Rank/Previous Rank/Weekly Sales/Accumulative Sales/#of Weeks ranked/Days (in first week)
/Name and # of series.

*1　--　1,171,142　1,171,142　*1　4　One Piece 54
*2　--　*,532,553　*,532,553　*1　4　Bleach 39
*3　--　*,300,630　*,300,630　*1　4　D.Gray-man 18
*4　--　*,200,369　*,200,369　*1　4　Bakuman 3
*5　--　*,133,012　*,133,012　*1　4　BASTARD! 26
*6　*1　*,116,801　*,415,992　*2　-　Vagabond 30
*7　--　*,106,207　*,106,207　*1　4　ToLoveRu 14
*8　--　*,*96,890　*,*96,890　*1　3　Vampire Knight 10
*9　--　*,*95,884　*,*95,884　*1　4　Mago 5
10　--　*,*71,118　*,*71,118　*1　3　Kiss yori mo Hayaku 5 (Impressive...)
11　--　*,*62,312　*,*62,312　*1　4　Rosario and Vampire Season II 4
12　--　*,*61,715　*,*61,715　*1　4　Letter Bee 7
13　--　*,*57,542　*,*57,542　*1　4　Sket Dance 8
14　--　*,*47,028　*,*47,028　*1　4　Psyren 6
15　--　*,*44,489　*,*44,489　*1　3　Shugo Chara 9
16　12　*,*42,876　*,*84,726　*2　-　New Black Jack 6
17　--　*,*42,250　*,*42,250　*1　4　Shaman King Final Official Guidebook
18　--　*,*28,485　*,*28,485　*1　4　Matsuri Special 3
19　--　*,*28,217　*,*28,217　*1　4　ToLoveRu 14 w/ DVD
20　--　*,*28,091　*,*28,091　*1　3　ヒメアノ～ル　3
21　*7　*,*25,821　*,299,933　*3　-　Tenjo Tenge 2020
22　*8　*,*23,926　*,*79,310　*2　-　Kimi to Boku 7
23　--　*,*23,568　*,*23,568　*1　3　Shinjuku Swan 18
24　--　*,*23,422　*,*23,422　*1　4　Reibaishi Izuna 3
25　*5　*,*23,056　*,*87,484　*2　-　Five 11
26　*6　*,*22,367　*,*85,509　*2　-　Kaze Hikaru 26
27　*3　*,*22,192　*,*93,666　*2　-　BLACK BIRD 8
28　--　*,*21,697　*,*21,697　*1　4　Hakaru no Go Complete Edition 9
29　23　*,*21,633　*,951,324　*6　-　Naruto 46
30　*2　*,*21,152　*,*93,587　*2　-　コイバナ！ 恋せよ花火　5

 

[kewl0210]

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They had the wrong cover for Bakuman also.

I didn't realize by what a large margin OP outsells everything.

I bought a bunch of those last week. Guess Inumaru Dash isn't there yet...

 

[Finestela]

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lol
I've only ordered ToLoveRu 14, Bastard 26, and Vampire Knight 10 off that list
I'm really surprised at the performance of Kiss yori (Shoujo series in LaLa)... more than R&V? O_o" (OT again... >_<")

 

[Kaiten]

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They had the wrong cover for Bakuman also.

I didn't realize by what a large margin OP outsells everything.

I bought a bunch of those last week. Guess Inumaru Dash isn't there yet...

OP crushes everything ^^ Nana comes pretty close, it usually sells over a million by the second week, at least.

Bleach and DGM did look really low, thanks Finestela!! Good to see Bakuman selling better and better with each volume. I wish Mago could do the same, but it is doing well. Psyren and Sket just seem to linger at the same place every single volume. I don't think I've seen either increase since January.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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So Mago has sold almost 100,000. Is this volume can make Mago safe for cancelation or not?

Also, looks like Psyren's volume sell doesn't increase. I'm not sure Psyren ever can make into top 10 in future.

 

[Kaiten]

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So Mago has sold almost 100,000. Is this volume can make Mago safe for cancelation or not?

Mago has never been in danger of cancellation, nor will it be in the foreseeable future. The only established series that need worry is Psyren. It's sales are iffy, it's rank rarely good. It should still be good enough to make it to year two, maybe even year three.

 

[SSJWill4]

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OP crushes everything ^^ Nana comes pretty close, it usually sells over a million by the second week, at least.

Bleach and DGM did look really low, thanks Finestela!! Good to see Bakuman selling better and better with each volume. I wish Mago could do the same, but it is doing well. Psyren and Sket just seem to linger at the same place every single volume. I don't think I've seen either increase since January.

Bakuman #3 actually sold about 28,000 less than Bakuman #2 just counting the first week of sales numbers. Still quite impressive though. Also, Sket and Psyren are a little up sales wise, while Mago is a little down. EDIT: nvm, Mago is up sales wise as well. My mistake.

 

[Finestela]

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Bakuman #3 actually sold about 28,000 less than Bakuman #2 just counting the first week of sales numbers. Still quite impressive though. Also, Sket and Psyren are a little up sales wise, while Mago is a little down. EDIT: nvm, Mago is up sales wise as well. My mistake.

It's actually not an accurate comparison, since Vol. 02 had 5 days while Vol. 03 had only 4 days
Either try to average (which is still not really accurate, due to the fact that the first few days should be weighed) or compare the second week accumulative sales