Theory Weevil is actually Whitebeard Himself [Ms. Bakin's Frankenstein]

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Hi, MangaHelpers

I have a theory to present, which I created a long time ago. Some of you may even be familiar with it. It's a notoriously awful theory that kind of disrespects the character Whitebeard (not my intention). It just so happens that this idea seems interesting for me.

Edward Weevil is Edward Whitebeard.
- How could this be? I'll explain.
- Edward Weevil isn't a real person. He is actually pieces of a dead person roughly the same size as Whitebeard, which was sewn together.

How Could Ms. Bakin Create Edward Weevil?
- First, she has a Devil Fruit ability. This Devil Fruit ability allows her to move Souls from one vessel to another. Such a Devil Fruit would be similar to Sugar's Devil Fruit, the Hobby-Hobby Fruit, which allowed her to transfer the Souls of living people into inanimate objects (toys) by using a contract with the "Devil."
- Second, I think there are some "rules" as to how powerful a soul is compared to the body it's being housed in. For example, Luffy's Shadow is what gave Oars his fighting ability.
- Third, I believe the type of body required for Whitebeard's soul to be transferred to would be large. That is, in order to use Whitebeard's full strength- he needs a body capable of doing just that. This is why Edward Weevil has huge arms.
- Fourth, in order to create this huge body to put Whitebeard's soul into for maximum effectiveness- she had to find a person who was already dead, but resembled Whitebeard's physique (at least to some degree). Particularly with his arms- his arms are huge because that's like the one characteristic she made sure to include in the new body.

What Hints in the Story Suggest this Has Happened?

1. Edward Weevil is notorious for using strength reminiscent of the deceased Whitebeard.
2. Edward Weevil has an affinity for the same type of weaponry that Whitebeard did. That is to say, a Swordsman in a new life is probably going to be a Swordsman. Edward Weevil using the same type of weaponry Whitebeard does also suggests this connection. They use the same weapon.
3. Nobody heard about Edward Weevil until AFTER Whitebeard died.
4. Edward Weevil has noticeably had his head cut off before (as well as his left hand). These parts were sewn back onto his body.
5. When he looked at a picture of Whitebeard, he thought it was a mirror.
6. Edward Weevil shares a very unique characteristic reminiscent of Whitebeard- that is, Whitebeard had a strong love for family. If Whitebeard was a kid, and he found out his dad was killed by a pirate- he might get really mad about it (just like Weevil is right now).
7. Whitebeard did not have a family. He was an orphan. He never had parents to fight for. Ms. Bakin provided one for him by saying Whitebeard was his dad, and she was his mom.
8. He may not actually be a villain. Ms. Bakin may be the villain between them.
9. Edward Weevil has the mind of a child because he was only created within the last couple years (after the Marineford War).

Note: Pretty confident people are going to hate me for this one.
Sidenote: Okay. I know this is a pretty far out there idea. But, give some consideration to one thing- Oda doesn't like to really get rid of characters. If Edward Weevil is really Whitebeard, add to this that Big Mom and Kaido could have been shot out of the lava and out of Wano, then it's possible all 3 of those jerks are still around in some form or another.
 

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I like this theory. Good job 🙂
 

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It is interesting, I’ll give it that. I only really have a hard time buying it because of Ms. Bakin having a fruit that is too similar to others. Maybe if she paid for the services of Big Mom to transfer the soul or even got Moria to just move a shadow into a suitable corpse for her.
 

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First, she has a Devil Fruit ability. This Devil Fruit ability allows her to move Souls from one vessel to another. Such a Devil Fruit would be similar to Sugar's Devil Fruit, the Hobby-Hobby Fruit, which allowed her to transfer the Souls of living people into inanimate objects (toys) by using a contract with the "Devil."
Sugar doesn't move the people into toys, she transforms them. The ability to create Zombies, is an advanced usage of Gekko Moria's Kage Kage no Mi
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First, she has a Devil Fruit ability. This Devil Fruit ability allows her to move Souls from one vessel to another. Such a Devil Fruit would be similar to Sugar's Devil Fruit, the Hobby-Hobby Fruit, which allowed her to transfer the Souls of living people into inanimate objects (toys) by using a contract with the "Devil."
Sugar doesn't move the people into toys, she transforms them. The ability to create Zombies, is an advanced usage of Gekko Moria's Kage Kage no Mi
 

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Love this theory, really well done.
Now i will waste my time making collage with his face.
 

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i had posted this a long time ago, maybe when Weevil was introduced...
Weevil's stitches are similar to Lola's zombie. So hogback could've stitched it up together using certain parts of Whitebeard. Dont think the shadows stay alive if the original user is dead, so Moria cannot do it, but to your point, other people's shadows could be added.
 

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I would say also that Luffy can probably turn Weevil in a good pirate, recalling Goku and Ottavio (c-8) in Dragon Ball.
 

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i had posted this a long time ago, maybe when Weevil was introduced...
Weevil's stitches are similar to Lola's zombie. So hogback could've stitched it up together using certain parts of Whitebeard. Dont think the shadows stay alive if the original user is dead, so Moria cannot do it, but to your point, other people's shadows could be added.
I don't think Weevil could possibly be one of Moriah's zombies.

The only clue would be his scars. However, Weevil has the skin color of a normal person. Besides, he doesn't even have that many scars to begin with.

The scar on his eye is even on his Jolly Roger, which seems odd if he was a zombie? The databooks also provide his age and other information.

As far I can tell, he's indeed Whitebeard's son. It's hard to tell because he's fat, but he looks a bit like Whitebeard as a kid, and his chin area still got some resemblance.
 

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I don't think he's a Moriah zombie. That's just a good comparison for why he has Whitebeard's strength.

Further, I don't think being Whitebeard's kid would allow Weevil to have Whitebeard's strength.
- Just look at all of Big Mom's kids. They're all pretty weak compared to her.

I think to actually possess Whitebeard's strength itself, you kind of have to be a reincarnated form of Whitebeard.

Think about when Big Mom was a kid, too. She was abnormally strong for a child (she bitch-slapped a bear and killed it).

It would be the same thing for Whitebeard- he would have amazing strength as a child similar to his strength as an adult. Weevil possesses this strength.

It's not a normal amount of strength. It's absurd. That's why it's likened to Whitebeard.

The idea is... you can't get that kind of strength without actually being Whitebeard (possessing his soul). It's his soul that creates that power. Even if you were his kid... that would mean you have a different soul, and therefore a separate amount of power attached to it.

Kozuki Momonosuke is no where near as strong as Oden was, was he?
 
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I don't think Weevil could possibly be one of Moriah's zombies.

The only clue would be his scars. However, Weevil has the skin color of a normal person. Besides, he doesn't even have that many scars to begin with.

The scar on his eye is even on his Jolly Roger, which seems odd if he was a zombie? The databooks also provide his age and other information.

As far I can tell, he's indeed Whitebeard's son. It's hard to tell because he's fat, but he looks a bit like Whitebeard as a kid, and his chin area still got some resemblance.
Fair enough. It does rule out zombie but he could be stitched up using Hogback, dont think we can rule that out...


Moria is heavily hated, so i dont think he or his crew will be involved in the story further. I'm from the few who thought that character had places to go..
 

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I could see a panel...

Where Ms. Bakin explains that she had Doctor Hogback create a body for her in an underworld deal. Something like that is very possible.
- Unfortunately, I'm not sure if Moriah is still alive. Absalom is surely dead.

On another note, that Weevil bothers me. I don't think that guy is just a big goof of a manchild. I think that's actually a clue about something. I suggest that it's because he really is only a few years old (in his mind). His body is definitely old. But, his mind is a child's mind.

*If I see a picture of Weevil as a child, and he acts the same- then I'll believe it's just how he is. But, until then, I think there is something up with that.*

He's way too stupid for someone so powerful.

 
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I don't think he's a Moriah zombie. That's just a good comparison for why he has Whitebeard's strength.

Further, I don't think being Whitebeard's kid would allow Weevil to have Whitebeard's strength.
- Just look at all of Big Mom's kids. They're all pretty weak compared to her.

I think to actually possess Whitebeard's strength itself, you kind of have to be a reincarnated form of Whitebeard.

Think about when Big Mom was a kid, too. She was abnormally strong for a child (she bitch-slapped a bear and killed it).

It would be the same thing for Whitebeard- he would have amazing strength as a child similar to his strength as an adult. Weevil possesses this strength.

It's not a normal amount of strength. It's absurd. That's why it's likened to Whitebeard.

The idea is... you can't get that kind of strength without actually being Whitebeard (possessing his soul). It's his soul that creates that power. Even if you were his kid... that would mean you have a different soul, and therefore a separate amount of power attached to it.

Kozuki Momonosuke is no where near as strong as Oden was, was he?
Big Mom children are monsters compared to the normal population. 1 in 10 is commander-level.

Kaido's kid is also quite strong... who knows how strong Yamato will become.

Momonosuke is just a kid without training inside of an adult body... yet there have been mentions of how strong his body is...
 

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Where Ms. Bakin explains that she had Doctor Hogback create a body for her in an underworld deal. Something like that is very possible.
- Unfortunately, I'm not sure if Moriah is still alive. Absalom is surely dead.
Moria was able to escape from the clutches of death with Mingo around. WG wanted him dead for a reason, and my guess is his DF ability. So escaping out of full-lead island isn't unlikely for him. But at the same time, BB may be interested in this ability.

He's way too stupid for someone so powerful.
People said that about the protagonist too... we haven't seen him in action so its unfair to say he's not strong. If you are strong, you dont have to be intelligent. But if you want to be a leader, you probably do.

To your point, yes. Bakkin is the brains behind him. What ithink is lacking is the motivation. Their just behind treasure.
 

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This would be a pretty cool twist. If this ends up being true and Weevil truly has the strength of a young WB would be awesome to have Luffy and him fight 1v1 so we can get more Luffy hype and hopefully get a new ally.
 

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WG wanted him dead for a reason, and my guess is his DF ability.
Doflamingo said Moriah was too weak to remain in the Shichibukai. I guess it's better to say he died during the greatest war than against some random pirate...
 

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Doflamingo said Moriah was too weak to remain in the Shichibukai. I guess it's better to say he died during the greatest war than against some random pirate...
I'm aware why it was stated. But WG is notorious for not providing real reasons... they said Moria disappeared suddenly but mingo also stated that his DF might have a role to play.
he was made a shichibukai for a reason, he isn't as weak as he was portrayed in thriller bark
 

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I'm aware why it was stated. But WG is notorious for not providing real reasons... they said Moria disappeared suddenly but mingo also stated that his DF might have a role to play.
he was made a shichibukai for a reason, he isn't as weak as he was portrayed in thriller bark
Moriah was strong in the past

Even if he lost to Kaido, it's clear he was something back then
 
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