Fantasy Wendy & Lucy vs Gajeel

[Ronin31]

Can the girls take down Gajeel ?

All are serious and have access to their will powers (no DF for Gajeel as he can't use it without external factor).

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[Garmadooon]

Portrayal favors Gajeel, he tied with LFD Natsu while Lucy improved by Selene almost was portrayed to be One Shot. Since Irene can't help the girls Gajeel takes the mid diff.

 

[Ronin31]

Portrayal favors Gajeel, he tied with LFD Natsu while Lucy improved by Selene almost was portrayed to be One Shot. Since Irene can't help the girls Gajeel takes the mid diff.

Yes, Irene is not involve in this battle, of course.

I can understand your statement but Nur-Onna Lucy was like Jubia this moment and her powers were based on Water. It's powerful against Fire but clearly weak against Electricity. Natsu was in disadvantage with his basic fire but could insta kill Lucy with that advantage, just like he can with Jubia. Gajeel hasn't nor weakness nor advantage against Lucy in this fight as his element isn't weak or strong against her.

Still, Wendy is here as support, giving them protection against elements, speed (like Jellal's Meteore) and increase strength.

But I thank you for your answer .

 

[Shoutmon]

Yeah I'm voting Gajeel as well. Aquarius implied that LFD Natsu could accidently kill snake-Lucy, and ISD mode Gajeel is on par with him.

Wendy's basically on par with Lucy without Irene’s help, so he probably low-diffs both of them

 

[Ronin31]

Aquarius implied that LFD Natsu could accidently kill snake-Lucy, and ISD mode Gajeel is on par with him.

Like I said previously, I can understand you as raw strength but you can't argue "Shadow" element is as strong as "Electricity" element against "Water" element.
Gajeel's mode can be as strong as Natsu's, it is certainy far less effective against a character like Jubia or Snake Lucy.

Still, remember the girls are teaming up here. Wendy is the best support character in the verse bar Irene and Lucy's smart can reduce the power gap with strategy. Don't you think ?

 

[Shoutmon]

Like I said previously, I can understand you as raw strength but you can't argue "Shadow" element is as strong as "Electricity" element against "Water" element.
Gajeel's mode can be as strong as Natsu's, it is certainy far less effective against a character like Jubia or Snake Lucy.

Still, remember the girls are teaming up here. Wendy is the best support character in the verse bar Irene and Lucy's smart can reduce the power gap with strategy. Don't you think ?

Oh, I didn't actually see your reply till afterwards. My bad lol.

I guess I can kinda see snake-lucy being weak to electricity (to an extent), but I moreso view this battle in this light:

I think LFD Natsu can quickly wreck both of them together, and ISD is almost just as strong as him, so I think he would be able to as well.

As for the teaming up and strategy, while that's important in fights, the gap in power is pretty sizeable here and they're all serious. Gajeel would instantly go into ISDM, sink into the ground and start blitzing them at full force. I don't think it would take much for serious Gajeel to K.O one of them (breaking up the team), and he likely wouldn't give them much time to think up a strategy here.

 

[LuckSlayer]

I bet the girls win high diff. If Gajeel does enter his shadow, Lucy will summon Loki, so he uses Lion's shine and then, no more shadows.

Wendy inmediatly goes DF, uses God Knight so both, Lucy and her gets full enhancement (power, speed... Everything), trap Gajeel in Sky drill's dome so Lucy uses Stardress Mix: Aquarius × Gemini Form, keep him busy just as she did with Kyria and Gottfried + Shattered Light!

Of course, Gajeel may be able to whistand that attack making himself out of iron... Although could Wendy enchant off that spell? Who knows v:

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Also, since Wendy is a high enchanter, she should be able to enchant atmosphere just as Irene did vs Acnologia and keep Gajeel at bay. There's so much girls can do to counter him... Lucy can even use Cancer Form so Wendy enchants any kind of magic on her blades a la Erza.

 

[FireIce]

ISD Gajeel =< LFD Natsu > Athena 2 > Wendy + Rogue > Lucy <<< Snake Lucy <<< LFD Natsu >= Gajeel.

Gajeel stomps.

 

[Cosmicstar]

Wendy and Lucy wins.

Aries wool has already shown capable of blocking Steel which is stronger than Iron. Light neutralizes shadow. Then you have Wendy who can heal and boost powers. Not to mention her power separation enchantment. Lucy could also just turn Gajeel into a fish. Gajeel just isn't strong enough to defeat these two together. Individually he would have a high difficulty battle with them but together they beat him.

 

[Garmadooon]

Wendy and Lucy wins.

Aries wool has already shown capable of blocking Steel which is stronger than Iron. Light neutralizes shadow. Then you have Wendy who can heal and boost powers. Not to mention her power separation enchantment. Lucy could also just turn Gajeel into a fish. Gajeel just isn't strong enough to defeat these two together. Individually he would have a high difficulty battle with them but together they beat him.

How would he having a hard battle with them individually ? It's not because Gajeel lacks feats that he became weak.

 

[Ronin31]

It's not because Gajeel lacks feats that he became weak.

He's not but the girls are no more as well. Gajeel is stronger but Lucy or Wendy can put a good fight individually.

 

[Garmadooon]

He's not but the girls are no more as well. Gajeel is stronger but Lucy or Wendy can put a good fight individually.

I know they can put a fight but if ISD Gajeel = LFD Natsu who can beat Athena 2 then I don't see how they are winning.

 

[Cosmicstar]

How would he having a hard battle with them individually ? It's not because Gajeel lacks feats that he became weak.

Wendy has Dragon force along with her power separation technique. She was also able to match a high end Dragon eater in strength and speed. With Dragon force and her enchantments she should be able to give Gajeel a pretty hard time. Heck I would argue she should be able to defeat him but I am willing to give Gajeel the benefit of doubt.

Then you have Lucy who has shown to be able to use transformation magic on Erza level characters and Aries wool able to block Steel which is a stronger material than Iron. She was also able to use her Taurus form to destroy part of the wood Golem that Gajeel confirmed himself his Iron wasn't strong enough to cut through. Light negates shadow. So Lucy would definitely give Gajeel a hard time individually. I didn't even mention Urano Metria nor Stardress Mix or Gotifield.

Not about Gajeel being weak but rather Lucy and Wendy being roughly on par with him as individuals.

 

[Garmadooon]

Wendy has Dragon force along with her power separation technique. She was also able to match a high end Dragon eater in strength and speed. With Dragon force and her enchantments she should be able to give Gajeel a pretty hard time. Heck I would argue she should be able to defeat him but I am willing to give Gajeel the benefit of doubt.

Then you have Lucy who has shown to be able to use transformation magic on Erza level characters and Aries wool able to block Steel which is a stronger material than Iron. She was also able to use her Taurus form to destroy part of the wood Golem that Gajeel confirmed himself his Iron wasn't strong enough to cut through. Light negates shadow. So Lucy would definitely give Gajeel a hard time individually. I didn't even mention Urano Metria nor Stardress Mix or Gotifield.

Not about Gajeel being weak but rather Lucy and Wendy being roughly on par with him as individuals.

Dragon force Wendy got shot by Kyria and ragdoll by Nebal I don't understand why Wendy fans keep saying she can do separation enchantments on everyone when only Irene does it for her, she can give Base Gajeel a hard time but once he goes into ISD mode he one shot her. And I don't take her fight against Haku seriously because he was holding back + she only won because she hard countered him, just like Sting hard countered Larcade, I refuse to believe she jumped levels to match a BDSK when it is Irene who actually defeated Haku, Wendy only did the finisher.

Lucy has never done a transformation magic on an Erza level character.

You say they are in the same tier as Gajeel but do you see them tanking LFD Natsu level magic?

 

[FireIce]

An amped Lucy would have been oneshotted by LFD Natsu, whom Gajeel is comparable to.

Athena 2, who's stronger than Wendy, is getting trashed by LFD Natsu as well.

Gajeel stomps

 

[Cosmicstar]

Dragon force Wendy got shot by Kyria and ragdoll by Nebal I don't understand why Wendy fans keep saying she can do separation enchantments on everyone when only Irene does it for her, she can give Base Gajeel a hard time but once he goes into ISD mode he one shot her. And I don't take her fight against Haku seriously because he was holding back + she only won because she hard countered him, just like Sting hard countered Larcade, I refuse to believe she jumped levels to match a BDSK when it is Irene who actually defeated Haku, Wendy only did the finisher.

Lucy has never done a transformation magic on an Erza level character.

You say they are in the same tier as Gajeel but do you see them tanking LFD Natsu level magic?

Wendy used separation technique on Touka who one shot Gajeel. Lucy also 100% used transformation on Erza level characters as she literally used it on Erza to turn her into a fish.

Also nothing you said changes anything. Urano Metria did more damage to Jackal than a full powered LFD attack, so saying Gajeel was able to tank an LFD attack means nothing especially when he was practically defeated by it.

Also nothing suggest Gajeel is on Kyria or Nebal level. Even Madmole tanked a FDK attack which is superior to LFD attacks and Kyria and Nebal are on Madmoles level.

Gajeel has no feats to suggest he could defeat Wendy and Lucy together and barely have feats to suggest he can do it with them individually. Even Taurus form Lucy did more damage to a golem than Gajeel iron did so nothing suggest Gajeel stronger than Lucy.

Also Aquarius saying what she said means nothing as we already saw Lucy withstand stronger powers on three separate occasions. She was able to take a hit from Dragon Merc, withstand Natsu heat while empowered by Ignia and she was able to withstand the heat from Ignia himself. She also tanked a full on attack from Alta face.

 

[Darklord#10]

withstand the heat from Ignia himself.

Lol she would get eviscerated by ignia if he flexed on her like he did against suzaku and natsu

 

[Garmadooon]

Lol she would get eviscerated by ignia if he flexed on her like he did against suzaku and natsu

By that logic Carla is a top tier because she tanked Ignia flames

 

[FireIce]

Wendy used separation technique on Touka who one shot Gajeel. Lucy also 100% used transformation on Erza level characters as she literally used it on Erza to turn her into a fish.

Touka was powerless when Wendy used her enchantment and this has nothing to do with actual combat abilities. Touka has never defeated Gajeel in a hand to hand combat. We have seen her fighting capabilities, she was taken down when Happy threw an orb at her. And Lucy used that on Erza who allowed her to. I haven't seen her doing that on actual opponents ready to fight, and all of her opponents in the sequel are weaker than Erza.

Also nothing you said changes anything. Urano Metria did more damage to Jackal than a full powered LFD attack, so saying Gajeel was able to tank an LFD attack means nothing especially when he was practically defeated by it.

I would like to remind you that Natsu defeated Jackal in his etherious form (which would be significantly stronger than his base) while Lucy took down Jackal in his base form. While Urano might've been at nest comparable to a LFD punch in Tartaros, Natsu has grown much stronger since then and trains way harder than Lucy.

Also nothing suggest Gajeel is on Kyria or Nebal level. Even Madmole tanked a FDK attack which is superior to LFD attacks and Kyria and Nebal are on Madmoles level.

Kyria doesn't scale to Madmole in durability. Neither does Nebal. Madmole is a dragon slayer that specializes in defense. The other two do not.
Kyria was on the verge of defeat after taking Erza's flame empress which a small fry compared to what Natsu can dish out with FDK. And Nebal was struggling with base Wendy lol before he went dragon force.

Gajeel has no feats to suggest he could defeat Wendy and Lucy together and barely have feats to suggest he can do it with them individually. Even Taurus form Lucy did more damage to a golem than Gajeel iron did so nothing suggest Gajeel stronger than Lucy.

He does lol. The fact that he can push LFD Natsu to exhaustion while Athena 2 (stronger than Wendy) is getting overwhelmed and Nure-Onna Lucy (far stronger than regular Lucy) was stated to be oneshot material says it all.

Disingenuous to compare her with base Gajeel, who took down a golem right after while Lucy needed to use a Star Dress Mix. Gajeel was more exhausted than Lucy and fought a stronger opponent. Natsu > Strauss siblings.

Also Aquarius saying what she said means nothing as we already saw Lucy withstand stronger powers on three separate occasions. She was able to take a hit from Dragon Merc, withstand Natsu heat while empowered by Ignia and she was able to withstand the heat from Ignia himself. She also tanked a full on attack from Alta face.

Everyone took hits from Dragon Merc. Gajeel survived Aldoron and Acnologia's attacks. Natsu's heat is nowhere close to what a full powered Ignia can do. Happy and Carla tanked Ignia's heat lol. Everybody in the labyrinth did.

 

[Darklord#10]

Wendy used separation technique on Touka who one shot Gajeel. Lucy also 100% used transformation on Erza level characters as she literally used it on Erza to turn her into a fish.

Also nothing you said changes anything. Urano Metria did more damage to Jackal than a full powered LFD attack, so saying Gajeel was able to tank an LFD attack means nothing especially when he was practically defeated by it.

Also nothing suggest Gajeel is on Kyria or Nebal level. Even Madmole tanked a FDK attack which is superior to LFD attacks and Kyria and Nebal are on Madmoles level.

Gajeel has no feats to suggest he could defeat Wendy and Lucy together and barely have feats to suggest he can do it with them individually. Even Taurus form Lucy did more damage to a golem than Gajeel iron did so nothing suggest Gajeel stronger than Lucy.

Also Aquarius saying what she said means nothing as we already saw Lucy withstand stronger powers on three separate occasions. She was able to take a hit from Dragon Merc, withstand Natsu heat while empowered by Ignia and she was able to withstand the heat from Ignia himself. She also tanked a full on attack from Alta face.

I have no problem with Wendy and Lucy being stronger than gajeel individually and together but using that ignia stuff doesn't mean anything. Everyone knows that Lucy hugging natsu or whatever is just a nalu moment. Me having no problem with it doesn't mean I agree but I understand your point of view from this situation. I'm just saying that logic doesn't work

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By that logic Carla is a top tier because she tanked Ignia flames

Tbh I'm not even going to defend gajeel here. But yeah using that kind of logic doesn't work