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What if Enkidu never killed Amizu and she had successfully dumped Rei leaving the battleship successfully? How would it have impact the story? Like will the 10 GFLs have retaliated like they did after they were told V was behind the murder. Would Amizu have calmed down Arlene after her child was killed and convince V not to kill himself? Could she have protected the child? Could she have become the current head of FUG as she seems to have higher ranking than Mirchea in the faction at that time? If not, could she have become a slayer and first gen slayer? What y'all think?
 

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I think she'll still die.
She became their enemy (Yirang said so herself) and joined the V faction. In fact, we saw Gustang and Eduan kill the 5-eyes guy.
So her chances of survival aren't that high. So far, we only see Luslec from the V faction alive.
 

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Traumerei ends up retrieving her and keeps her in a cage. Either she bears with it or kills herself.
 

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But I like the idea of Enkidu not being sealed and still being with Traumerei.
Well he has really an awesome ability and blessing. In fact there are hardly any towerborns who can defeat him.
 
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I think she'll still die.
She became their enemy (Yirang said so herself) and joined the V faction. In fact, we saw Gustang and Eduan kill the 5-eyes guy.
So her chances of survival aren't that high. So far, we only see Luslec from the V faction alive.
This got me into thinking, could the towerborns who climbed with GWs be still alive? Like shinsu only slows down ageing. Nowhere it says, towerborns can live up to 10-20k years, even for irregulars. Only way to live is by contract with administrator. That's why hendo begged with administrator to give him immortality contract. Or else why would he beg for immortality contract if one can gain similar ability by wearing the armour. That also explains why V commited suicide. He couldn't live forever without the contract. Also, Is Mirchea living on borrowed time?
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Traumerei ends up retrieving her and keeps her in a cage. Either she bears with it or kills herself.
Well she already was a prisoner just that she was given privileges
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But I like the idea of Enkidu not being sealed and still being with Traumerei.
Well he has really an awesome ability and blessing. In fact there are hardly any towerborns who can defeat him.
Hmm. LPB family could have been one of the strongest. It had the potential. Only if Rei never messed up. Enkidu, Wangwang, Yama, yasratcha, Kirin, Robadon could have made the family even more stronger had they been united.
 

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This got me into thinking, could the towerborns who climbed with GWs be still alive? Like shinsu only slows down ageing. Nowhere it says, towerborns can live up to 10-20k years, even for irregulars. Only way to live is by contract with administrator. That's why hendo begged with administrator to give him immortality contract. Or else why would he beg for immortality contract if one can gain similar ability by wearing the armour. That also explains why V commited suicide. He couldn't live forever without the contract. Also, Is Mirchea living on borrowed time?
Obviously yes.
Quadrado must have been alive until Urek showed up and defeated him.
Also the two guys who escorted Hon to the Traumerei party also appeared in White's flashback.

I'm not sure if Molic climbed the tower with Zahard. But he was certainly old enough.

I also suspect that the High Rankers of the Zahard family that Phanta killed were probably also his long-time followers, perhaps they were the ones who climbed the tower together but chose Zahard's side.
 

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Obviously yes.
Quadrado must have been alive until Urek showed up and defeated him.
Also the two guys who escorted Hon to the Traumerei party also appeared in White's flashback.

I'm not sure if Molic climbed the tower with Zahard. But he was certainly old enough.

I also suspect that the High Rankers of the Zahard family that Phanta killed were probably also his long-time followers, perhaps they were the ones who climbed the tower together but chose Zahard's side.
Yeah I also don't think all of them could survive. Maybe 1-2 guys. Then again, if on average towerborns can live up to 10-20k years won't that make immortality contract meaningless? Cause power wise only irregulars can kill irregulars. Towerborns can't kill them even without the contract. Why would one make a contract and shackle themselves if they gain protection from towerborns who can never kill them? But yeah I hope these things SIU will explain soon.
 

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Yeah I also don't think all of them could survive. Maybe 1-2 guys. Then again, if on average towerborns can live up to 10-20k years won't that make immortality contract meaningless? Cause power wise only irregulars can kill irregulars. Towerborns can't kill them even without the contract. Why would one make a contract and shackle themselves if they gain protection from towerborns who can never kill them? But yeah I hope these things SIU will explain soon.
The towerborns' contract is the Eternal Life Contract. They age but slow down and do not die. (They still die if they are killed)
Meanwhile, Zahard and the 10 FHs' contract is the Immortality Contract. It seems that in addition to the eternal life, they become the rulers of the tower with absolute protection from the administrator.
 

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What if Enkidu never killed Amizu and she had successfully dumped Rei leaving the battleship successfully? How would it have impact the story? Like will the 10 GFLs have retaliated like they did after they were told V was behind the murder. Would Amizu have calmed down Arlene after her child was killed and convince V not to kill himself? Could she have protected the child? Could she have become the current head of FUG as she seems to have higher ranking than Mirchea in the faction at that time? If not, could she have become a slayer and first gen slayer? What y'all think?
She would get killed by Traumerei in the battlefield this time
 

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The towerborns' contract is the Eternal Life Contract. They age but slow down and do not die. (They still die if they are killed)
The Eternal Life Contract (영생계약, Yeongsaeng Gyeyag)[1] is a special Contract created by the Administrator to slow down the aging process of Tower inhabitants.

All people who did not sign or make an eternal life contract, they all age, they become old. It is just pace/speed that differs from a person to person. But once they get into the Inner Tower area, the aging process does slow down. And actually, even if you made an eternal life contract, it doesn't mean you will not become old. Growth just ceases or stop at some point.

So, this is taken from wiki, not sure how much it is correct but it says it only slows down ageing not that they can't die of old age.
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Meanwhile, Zahard and the 10 FHs' contract is the Immortality Contract. It seems that in addition to the eternal life, they become the rulers of the tower with absolute protection from the administrator.
Yeah but the word absolute protection doesn't seem right word, like irregulars can kill another. Also, do GWs gain power because of the contract as they become ruler?
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She would get killed by Traumerei in the battlefield this time
Can he kill her tho? Not power wise but emotionally? I still believe the reason why she died was because she talked about the project about the experiment as we can see Rei's reaction to her statement.
 

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So, this is taken from wiki, not sure how much it is correct but it says it only slows down ageing not that they can't die of old age.
So far they are not dead. Even if they die of old age, they are not old enough yet.
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Yeah but the word absolute protection doesn't seem right word, like irregulars can kill another.
There is indeed protection, but it is within the scope of what the administrator can do.
For example, Gustang did not have the right to see Traumerei's past, so he sacrificed his life in exchange for the opportunity. The judge (scale?) himself said that since Traumerei became ruler, no one can see Traumerei's past records.
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Also, do GWs gain power because of the contract as they become ruler?
It's another matter. But I believe they have gained power.
 

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I think good chance zahard with find a way to turn other great warriors against v and arlen. Most likely by that time great warriors had god complex and wanted to rule as gods rather than climbing further.

Though a scenario where great warriors didn't side with zahard and zahard lost would have been interesting.
 
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