Question What is Enryu?

What is Enryu?


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In the official webtoon translation of chapter 1 of urek's adventure , there is no mention of different worlds or story.


This suggest there is only one outside world.

We are told 6 shining ones were strongest beings bar phantaminium himself who beat them all.



--In the latest chapter we see eduan beating mago even without using all his abilities or shinworyu so this confirms admins > shining ones inside the tower. Urek the strongest shininh one also yearns to fight/beat an admin.

--Yet enryu was able to kill an admin. So what can he be?

--Imo if we assume there exist only one outside world then either enryu is a being like phantaminium created by darkeness or a hidden shining one.

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I think the outside god is from a different world. Enryu would either be a shining one or a Phantaminum equivalent in that world. Though the difference is that Phantaminum became an axis.
 

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First, some speculations:
-Speculation 1: Arlene got out from the Headon's floor, and in a walking distance reached Outer God and presented him just like in F1 murals.
-Speculation 2: Outer God is not that outer, it should know abotu shinsoo, whether as a creator or expert user or anything else without needing it to live.
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Speculation 3: Baam's cave, just outside Headon's floor has the same atmosphere as Headon's floor. Meaning: either both has shinsoo in it, or Headon can be just fine without shinsoo. The first one makes Baam an irregular easier, while the second case would better explain shinsoo mastery of Enryu and talent of Baam.

As a result, I think OG is a local godlike or god figure, where Enryu is its servant. Enryu should have no problem controlling shinsoo better than an admin if speculations above are correct. OG's and consequently Enryu's way has more authority over shinsoo.
 

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Enryu is the messenger of God. He is an angel who has ascended and is now directly serving the OG, which is darkness, the primary being. Enryu is the living tribunal for the one above all, i.e., darkness (Marvel Reference). There is no reason for us to think and assume any further if you believe the tower was created by darkness, so he also blessed Enryu with the ability to use Shinshoo. Now, I'm not sure where Enryu came from and can't speculate much, because he could have been a darkness servant from the start, or he discovered or created him.

We now know Arlene is a witch who can cast spells. To cast spells, a God must make a contract with a medium. It is not unreasonable to believe that Arlene made a pact with the god she prayed to. She prayed to the same God to revive her child. If the god is darkness, it's no surprise that Baam wields darkness-like abilities because the OG bestowed his powers upon him.
 

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I'm certain Webtoon has mistranslated it. I suspect this is only referring to Urek's world.
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@Ray Barracuda This is most likely the case. Phanta isn't top 1 confirmed if there exist other worlds and gods. Enryu the messanger is much stronger than someone like mago.

Also I couldn't find the statement of phanta being able to destroy whole tower if he wants to.
 

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@Ray Barracuda This is most likely the case. Phanta isn't top 1 confirmed if there exist other worlds and gods. Enryu the messanger is much stronger than someone like mago.

Also I couldn't find the statement of phanta being able to destroy whole tower if he wants to.
Worlds?


Yeah, Urek already spoke about the actual Earth which is the pinpoint most important world.


Urek already also confirmed there exists Heaven and gods and the actual Angels called messengers of god ages ago.

That's why it's called a creation.

And of course there exists multiple worlds or galaxies, that's how you come about the actual Universe which once again, Urek already confirmed exists.


This ain't new information, the Universe or creation exists and Phantaminum rules it.



Also you can find the Phantaminum statement in the Wiki.
 

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Worlds?


Yeah, Urek already spoke about the actual Earth which is the pinpoint most important world.


Urek already also confirmed there exists Heaven and gods and the actual Angels called messengers of god ages ago.

That's why it's called a creation.

And of course there exists multiple worlds or galaxies, that's how you come about the actual Universe which once again, Urek already confirmed exists.


This ain't new information, the Universe or creation exists and Phantaminum rules it.



Also you can find the Phantaminum statement in the Wiki.
Yeah phanta is top 1 of his own world. He isn't in same world/universe as enryu or OG so he isn't confirmed to be above outside god.

Bolded - I couldn't find the statement anywhere. It's debated whether it even comes from SIU or not.
 

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Yeah phanta is top 1 of his own world. He isn't in same world/universe as enryu or OG so he isn't confirmed to be above outside god.

Bolded - I couldn't find the statement anywhere. It's debated whether it even comes from SIU or not.
Eh?

Urek entered a different world, solar system whatever you may wanna call it.


He didn't jump Universes by flying all the way here and then entering the Tower.


And the fact Urek spoke about gods and Angels plus the heavens aka Enryu already confirms it's within the same setting.


Multiverse scaling is an absurd implication at this point right now.
 

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Eh?

Urek entered a different world, solar system whatever you may wanna call it.


He didn't jump Universes by flying all the way here and then entering the Tower.


And the fact Urek spoke about gods and Angels plus the heavens aka Enryu already confirms it's within the same setting.


Multiverse scaling is an absurd implication at this point right now.
Urek mentioned that zahard came from different world iirc. Arlene mentioned same thing that the world she went to from tower is different than the original world she came from.

If you don't subscribe to the above , who/what do you think enryu is? Is he a hidden shinning one?
 

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Urek mentioned that zahard came from different world iirc. Arlene mentioned same thing that the world she went to from tower is different than the original world she came from.

If you don't subscribe to the above , who/what do you think enryu is? Is he a hidden shinning one?
Yeah, Urek speculated that it's possible they're not from the same world because they claimed the outside was a hellish place.

He then said the world on the Outside is fine, and he'd know this because he just came from it hence the speculation.

But it's still a Universe which is a pretty much an incalculably gigantic place, it's got different or multiple dimensions and spaces, that's what denotes a Universe.


Heaven is a dimension which contains the gods and Angels, that's pretty much the only dimension confirmed to us right now.


Also Enryu is an Angel, a true angel who is one of god's messengers as described for what they are.
 

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Yeah, Urek speculated that it's possible they're not from the same world because they claimed the outside was a hellish place.

He then said the world on the Outside is fine, and he'd know this because he just came from it hence the speculation.

But it's still a Universe which is a pretty much an incalculably gigantic place, it's got different dimensions and spaces, that's what denotes a Universe.


Heaven is a dimension which contains the gods and Angels, that's pretty much the only dimension confirmed to us right now.


Also Enryu is an Angel, a true angel who is one of god's messengers as described for what they are.
So you think enryu serves darkness and darkness is outside god? Okay.
 

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So you think enryu serves darkness and darkness is outside god? Okay.
..........Not really?


The Outside god is depicted as a Phoenix, hell it even gave some sorta unknown Sun to Baam to drive home the depiction even further.


An entity of rebirth and the entity of nothingness are not the same.
 

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..........Not really?


The Outside god is depicted as a Phoenix, hell it even gave some sorta unknown Sun to Baam to drive home the depiction even further.


An entity of rebirth and the entity of nothingness are not the same.
I don't get your point. We know outside of phanta shining ones are strongest. Yet enryu >> Mago for now.

So either enryu needs to be a stronger shinning one himself or a being created by darkness or phanta himself. Otherwise the explained hierarchy makes no sense.
 

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I understand thinking that there are different worlds etc but "In this story" being used at the beginning of a story doesn't mean that different worlds exist. I have nothing I can mention right now. But if I think hard about it, I am pretty sure I can find series which start this way.

Enryu is a servant of the Outside God. He doesn't have to be from another world or inhuman.

The Outside God itself is probably not from another world, assuming they exist. Why would he? When he interacted with Arlen? And there is Baam, who has apparently dark related powers. The primordial entity was Darkness. Is it just a coincidence? Unlikely I'd say 🤔 .
 
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I don't get your point. We know outside of phanta shining ones are strongest. Yet enryu >> Mago for now.

So either enryu needs to be a stronger shinning one himself or a being created by darkness or phanta himself. Otherwise the explained hierarchy makes no sense.
Bro, you keep forgetting that gods exist, like a whole Heaven of them.

And the outside god is a god, Enryu is an Angel aka a servant of god and his messenger.


Kinda was the most blatant lore drop of chapter 27.


And like I said, the Outside is shown to be a Phoenix which is an entity of rebirth, this has nothing to do with the Darkness.
 

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Bro, you keep forgetting that gods exist, like a whole Heaven of them.

And the outside god is a god, Enryu is an Angel aka a servant of god and his messenger.


Kinda was the most blatant lore drop of chapter 27.


And like I said, the Outside is shown to be a Phoenix which is an entity of rebirth, this has nothing to do with the Darkness.
So these gods and angels are stronger than shining ones?
 

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Yeah, Urek speculated that it's possible they're not from the same world because they claimed the outside was a hellish place.
I sort of think this as a temporal difference rather than spatial. Maybe GWs came from the world where Shinies were devastating, or something similar to a chaotic state again, while After Phanta things subsided.
 
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