Discussion Where in Impel Down would you throw them?

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how the hell is luffy not lvl 6 material he beat down moria dont even remember crocodile he beat moria and im not talking about nightmare luffy i mean he himself when he was dead tied and in grave condition took out 1000 shadow moria, moria fought on par with a yonkou and im pretty sure any of the yonkou would be sent straight to lvl 6 and luffy beat him he is easily a level 6 oh and lets not forget rob lucci, rob lucci who was in such high regards of the navy if hes not level 6 then just about every in level 6 isnt level 6 material
For future reference, when making a point, don't just write one big ass sentense. It's a pain to read and understand. I don't mean any offense but your post is really hard to read.

Luffy was dead tired when he defeated moria, that is true. Thing is that when he fought moria, he did not fight the normal smart moria he fought earlier. Moria absorbed the shadows of a thousand people and acquire a stupid amount of power but he also went on a wild unintelligent rampage. Not to mention absorbing that many shadows was actually hurting moria.

The first time luffy fought moria, the guy did not do a thing. He just sat there while his shadow did all the work. In that situation the one on the losing end was obviously luffy. Luffy got quite a few hits while he only landed one lucky hit on moria although that one kick did little to now damage. Considering how superior moria proved to be at that moment and the fact that moria was basically just sitting there without moving. IMHO if moria gets completely serious in a 1 on 1 fight, he would actually be quite strong and extremely hard to deal with. It's all my own speculation but I do believe that there is a reason moria is a shichibukai and he did not show it back in TB.

I also do not think lucci is level 6 material. IMHO he would be sent to level 5. I know lucci was extremely strong and his strength was acknowledge by many high level people but that does not instantly mean he is as strong as a level 6 prisoner. I honestly believe that if the thing was decided by strength alone, he would be sent to level 5.
 

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Hawk and Law - both level 5 imo
 

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I would say that the vast mayority of the supernova's would be sent to level 5. Capone does not strike me as a extremely powerful dude so he might end up in level 4.
 

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yea but it should still might get too 5 because if he is dropped in a hole with other prisoners he can take them in him soo lvl 5 where there are not much prisoners
 

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Actually just calling yourself a pirate is enough of a crime to get chased by the marines lol. Now, if A gets some attention and gets captured(take buggy or any pirate from level 1), he would be sent to ID just because of the sheer hypothetical power he has. All he has to do is prove that levels 1-5 really can't contain him for him to be sent to level 6.
Not being able to be contained in Levels 1-5 is a feat in itself. Impel Down is the world's most impenetrable prison, but there are no doubt other prisons where lesser criminals are sent to. If Pirate A gets a little attention but doesn't commit any major crimes he will be sent to another prison and not Impel Down. However, if he got a decent bounty he would be sent to Impel Down.

And how do you know the prisoners could not take death wink? All we saw was that they got hit, nothing else. We also do not know the mechanics behind death wink. If it has something to do with haki(big if), then it would be quite a fearsome attack and it would not be surprising if it actually knocks out level 6 starved prisoners in one hit.
How do you know the prisoners could take the "Death Wink"? (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/540/16/). If they were Level 6 strength, they should have been able to stand up to it. From the picture, it looks like they were blasted backwards quite a bit.

I guess this is kinda subjective but I don't think luffy at this point is strong enough as level 6 prisoners. The opponents who IMO were level 6 material were enel, against whom luffy had an unique advantage and could not be hurt by enels strongest attacks, crocodile against whom luffy got kinda lucky IMHO and moria who luffy never fought head on except for while(and got his ass handed to him). The ones at SA were also level 6 worthy but as we all saw they easily kicked the strawhats asses. As for lucci, I think he is at best level 5 worthy but by no means level 6.
Enel hasn't really done anything against the World Government, but yes power-wise I agree he is Level 6 material. Likewise, I also think that Lucci is Level 5 material.

Level 6 prisoners are as called by crocodile silver medallists. They were people who got defeated by people such as WB. Luffy at the moment is a supernova. A supernova is a pirate who has conquered the first half of the grand line and got a rookie status. How can a rookie even begin to compare to a silver medallist? Luffy is strong and has been incredibly lucky but IMHO he is just strong enough to be sent to level 5(while his feats would send him straight to level 6).
The question is: "Do you think Luffy should be in Level 6?" Not just based or strength or feats, but a combination. In your opinion, Luffy isn't Level 6 material in terms of strength compared to some of the other prisoners in that level (e.g. Crocodile, Jimbei, Ace) but in the World Government's (and mine) opinion he is. In their eyes, regardless of how he's achieved it, Luffy was taken down 2 of their Shichibukai, tore down Enies Lobby and broken out of their most impenetrable prison. The World Government will undoubtedly see him as strong enough to be in Level 6.

enel # 4? gotta be kidding me he took out zoro & sanji &moves at lightning fast speed luffy only won because of his rubber and he still almost lost
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Like I said IMO, he hasn't really done anything against the World Government. You don't get into Level 6 for solely being powerful. I should have made that Level 5 actually. I'm not too keen on where Enel should be placed because it's really up to your own opinion and there's too much speculation involved.

how the hell is luffy not lvl 6 material he beat down moria dont even remember crocodile he beat moria and im not talking about nightmare luffy i mean he himself when he was dead tied and in grave condition took out 1000 shadow moria, moria fought on par with a yonkou and im pretty sure any of the yonkou would be sent straight to lvl 6 and luffy beat him he is easily a level 6 oh and lets not forget rob lucci, rob lucci who was in such high regards of the navy if hes not level 6 then just about every in level 6 isnt level 6 material
I agree with you here.

Hawk and Law - both level 5 imo
I would say that the vast mayority of the supernova's would be sent to level 5. Capone does not strike me as a extremely powerful dude so he might end up in level 4.
Level 6: Luffy
Level 5: Kidd, Hawkins, X-Drake, Law
Level 4: The rest

All up for debate ;)
When I judge what level a character should be in I place myself in the position of the World Government. I know I've probably done it by bounty (which isn't always a good indicator), but that's probably how the WG would have decided to do it. Besides, IMO Luffy, Kidd, Hawkins, Drake and Law are the strongest of the Supernovae also.
 
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Strawhats:
Chopper: poor pirates pet is adopted by a marine woman
Nami: level 1
Usopp: level 2
Brook: level 2
Franky: level 3
Sanji: level 4
Zoro: level 5
Luffy: level 5
Robin: level 6 (knows how to read the Poneglyph)

Few, any Shichibukai and Rayleigh would be at level 6, while the Supernovas at level 5
 

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Level 6: Luffy
Level 5: Kidd, Hawkins, X-Drake, Law
Level 3: The rest

All up for debate
When I judge what level a character should be in I place myself in the position of the World Government. I know I've probably done it by bounty (which isn't always a good indicator), but that's probably how the WG would have decided to do it. Besides, IMO Luffy, Kidd, Hawkins, Drake and Law are the strongest of the Supernovae also.
Well, it was originally said that people with bounties over 100 mil were kept in level 5. If we tale that literally, all the supernova should be in level 5. In that sense, I honestly doubt we would find a supernova below level 4.

Zoro would definitely go to level 5 IMHO. He is close in strength to luffy and has a decent bounty. Drake, kidd, law and hawkins should also go to level 5. They all have crazy powers and fruits, I doubt anything less than level five would handle them at this point. Appo also showed crazy powers, enough to actually land a hit on kizaru. He is at the very least level 4 material. The monk also showed so crazy power. I do not see him below level 4. As for capone and bonney, I don't think they are as strong as the others but I don't see them below level 4.
 

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Well, it was originally said that people with bounties over 100 mil were kept in level 5. If we tale that literally, all the supernova should be in level 5. In that sense, I honestly doubt we would find a supernova below level 4.

Zoro would definitely go to level 5 IMHO. He is close in strength to luffy and has a decent bounty. Drake, kidd, law and hawkins should also go to level 5. They all have crazy powers and fruits, I doubt anything less than level five would handle them at this point. Appo also showed crazy powers, enough to actually land a hit on kizaru. He is at the very least level 4 material. The monk also showed so crazy power. I do not see him below level 4. As for capone and bonney, I don't think they are as strong as the others but I don't see them below level 4.
My apologies, I meant: Level 4: The rest. Typo, I completely agree with what you have said and I need to fix that error ;)
 
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How do you know the prisoners could take the "Death Wink"? (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/540/16/). If they were Level 6 strength, they should have been able to stand up to it. From the picture, it looks like they were blasted backwards quite a bit.
Just sayin, if some of the prisoners are in there for their feats, won't some of them possibly be scholars that took too much interest in the Blank Century or were captured for XYZ reason and they're still weak?
 

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Well, it was originally said that people with bounties over 100 mil were kept in level 5. If we tale that literally, all the supernova should be in level 5. In that sense, I honestly doubt we would find a supernova below level 4.
I thought it was only said that all the people in level 5 had bounties over 100 millions of berrys but not that all the people over 100 millions berrys were in level 5. Indeed, there are people in level 6 that have bounties over 100 millions berrys.
Thus, supernovae could be in level 4 too.
 

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@ Lord Rayleigh: the supernovae would all be put in Level 5 because of their bounties. Because they are rookies, I doubt any of them would be in L6.
 

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Aokiji/Kizaru/shichibukai 6
Magellan 6
Dragon 6
Whitebeard 6
Enel 6
Krieg 1
Kuro 1
Arlong 2
Kidd 5
Law 5
Drake 5
Zoro 5
Sanji 4
Franky 3
Robin 6
Brooke 3
Usopp 1
Nami 1
Chopper 1
Luffy 5.5 <--can you picture him in a cell? well, i can picture him at a party
 

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Aokiji: Level 6
Kizaru: Level 6
Magellan: Level 6
Any of the Shichibukai: Level 6
Enel: Level 4
Zorro : level 5
Robin : Level 4
Nami : level 1
Chopper with his candy : Level 6
Buggy in the entrance but the marine will throw him in level 6 :fan
 
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I think most supernovas and sanji would be thrown instantly in level 5. Franky would go to level 4 IMHO. Krieg would be in level 2 IMO. He did have super strength so he wasn't precisely normal. Kuro would also go to level 2 IMO.
 

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Seeing the war, I am even more convinced luffy is nowhere near level 6. I think he is just right for level 5 though. Zoro would also be a level 5 guy and sanji would be in either 4 or 5. 50/50 for sanji being in either level.
 

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This would never happen but kkck did say any character so...
Aokiji: Level 6
Kizaru: Level 6
Magellan: Level 5
Any of the Shichibukai: Level 6
Enel: Level 4
Wapol: Level 2
All open for debate ;)
i agree with everything but the last 2
enel in level 4? are you serious? he is so strong that above level 5 will be rediculus, also oda admited he will have a bounty of 500 mil at least which is level 5 material. wapol is a level 1 material tops... he is so coward that he left his own kingdom once it was threatened...
 

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Luffy goes straight to level 6 by doing what he did on Enies Lobby alone. Well, I think they would throw him down there anyway.
 

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Luffy goes straight to level 6 by doing what he did on Enies Lobby alone. Well, I think they would throw him down there anyway.
And that's exactly why after having beat Gecko Moria and a tenryubito and invaded ID in plus, he ended up in level 5. :facepalm
 

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If Enel came to the Grandline, he could cause enough chaos to get him to Level 5. With a prospective bounty of 500 million, you can see why. I still can't say for definite how he'd fair against some of the big boys, because putting aside Luffy, the power of thunder is scary and if he was in the ongoing war, his attacks would be a major asset for either side. can you imagine seeing his "el thor" in the middle of the war?
 

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And that's exactly why after having beat Gecko Moria and a tenryubito and invaded ID in plus, he ended up in level 5. :facepalm
I really hate that facepalm. You know why? Because people always use it wrong.

Luffy was half dead and about to die. They just threw him in a cell and didn't even bother to put cuffs on him. Can you wrap your brain around it for a second?
Do you honestly believe that Luffy would end up in level 5 if he was in better condition, like, not almost dead? The guy who has beaten two Shichibukai, declared war to World Government, caused destruction of Enies Lobby, the end of CP9 and finally punched Tenryuubito out of his boots. That's like most severe crime that anyone can do in WG.

No, I just realized, he wouldn't go to level 6, he would have been executed asap.
 
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