Predictions Which Family Heads May Join Baam?

[Arjuna]

This discussion has generated lot of arguments in the fandom.To defeat so many Irregular Family Heads there is a possibility that Baam may have few Irregular Family Heads on his side too.If Baam really does gain lot of Family Heads as allies,who do you think will join him.l?


My candidates will be


Blossom - Has enough reasons to bear grudge against Zahard Empire.So she may join Baam.


Ha Yurin - She cares a lot for her family and Yuri's treatment may lead to join her Baam.

Gustang - He is a villain as SIU said.At best he will be occasinal ally.



Eduan - If this was his data version then he would have instantly joined Baam,his original version may not as he doesn't have any reason.But there again if Baam proves his worth then he may join Baam.

 

[Cinera]

Gustang - He is a villain as SIU said.At best he will be occasinal ally.

IIRC, SIU didn't say that he would be an antagonist. I've heard that SIU has said that he's a "dark mastermind" in the overall story.

At any rate, Gustang is anti Zahard.

Eduan - If this was his date version then he would have instantly joined Baam,his original version may not as he doesn't have any reason.But there again if Baam proves his worth then he may join Baam.

Eduan will most likely side against Zahard.

Adult Zahard said that he and Eduan don't have a good relationship:

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Eduan - ... his date version

Just so you know, EVERY version of Eduan is his 'date version'

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Agreed overall with responses. I don't think Gustang has exhibited anti-Baam sentiments at all though. If he is a big-bad, he's a final phase big-bad.

Like how Griffith rolled with Guts until he didn't.

Still, I think it's been said that 'villain' was a mistranslation. His actions show otherwise as he could have stomped Baam at any point. Instead he keeps giving him assistance. Maybe he is a villain to the regime. Or that his swagger is villainous. He's helping a princess and the people on FoD. He's obviously a supremacist, but a supremacist you could take home to mom.

 

[kkck]

Hard to say. The blossom are likely candidates for an actual ally but I am less sure about the others. Gustang is an enemy to zahard but isn't exactly an ally to bam. I see him more as having his own agenda. We also don't know how the relationship between the eurasia and po bidao families (which presumably isn't ideal) would affect this....

Eduan and zahard don't get along but we don't have evidence that their animosity for one another gets to such a point that they would be currently pretty much at war. A war between them would be pretty costly.

As for yurin... I am not sold on the idea that she would go to war with zahard solely because of yuri. She has other grandkids as well. Even if she were specially close to yuri from a political standpoint yuri's worth comes from her role as a princess and 13 month series. But if the empire has branded her a traitor then things change a fair bit. Overall we lack context in ha family dynamics and the relationship between yurin and zahard...

Han... is presumably a pacifist. But I think that bodes poorly for bam. The presumably good relationship to the arie family does not improve things.

I am a bit of the idea that the person hana was in love with was V... But that could play out either way bam wise.

It's also worth noting that this isn't about merely who is friends with whom. Politics and agendas are at play here as well which would skew things from how mere friendships or mere animosity might suggest.

 

[Grace12025]

To me, the most obvious choices are Gustang and Blossom, since they both have a clear motive to go againts Zahard (Enna Zahard situation).
The Pink-haired Phonsekal (forgot her name) might be a spy sent by Blossom to monitor Bam's movements. I say this because we kinda saw her made a call to someone in the hell train and that she regards Bam to be "the one who can make her wish come true".

Another obvious choice is Eduan who clearly dislikes Zahard. I strongly believe he is actually the one behind Maschenny's actions.

The last candidate is ofc Yurin, who is clearly not amused by Yuri's treatments. I can't say she's plotting anything at the moment like Gustang, since she doesn't seem to be the sneaky type.

The pro-Zahard faction will consist of at least LPB who is a Zahard loyalist, and Hendo, who is obsessed with immortality.

Arie and Ari most likely will be on this side too. Arie seems to be your typical knight-like character who unquestioningly follow his king. While Ari seems to be the conservative type and prefer things the way they are. Plus they have Ari Chun who is one of the three lords.

Yeon and Tu Perie are unclear.

 

[Theorist05]

Gustang - He is a villain as SIU said.At best he will be occasinal ally.

I think when SIU said he was a Villain I think he meant in the overall story…so Gustang will probably be antagonistic towards Bam later down the line. Basically I think Gustang is on his own side.

 

[Consul N]

Baam shouldn't trust them to stay on his side for long or even at all until he finds out why they sided with Zahard against parents.

 

[Cinera]

I strongly believe he is actually the one behind Maschenny's actions

You are strongly wrong. Maschenny serves only herself.

Baam shouldn't trust them to stay on his side for long or even at all until he finds out why they sided with Zahard against parents.

Have you not considered that his parents might have been in the wrong? Zahard probably had a very good reason for stopping the climb.

I think when SIU said he was a Villain I think he meant in the overall story…so Gustang will probably be antagonistic towards Bam later down the line. Basically I think Gustang is on his own side.

That seems like a translation issue. I've heard multiple people contest that SIU said that Gustang was an antagonist.

 

[Consul N]

Have you not considered that his parents might have been in the wrong? Zahard probably had a very good reason for stopping the climb.

Arlene and V could've had a good reason on why they still wanted to climb. The point is, neither we nor Baam knows what really happened. That's why i said he should find out the truth before he trust any of the FHs.

 

[Sanity Check]

Eduan - If this was his data version then he would have instantly joined Baam,his original version may not as he doesn't have any reason.But there again if Baam proves his worth then he may join Baam.

Remember Aguero Khun remarking upon how Eduan in the hidden level was completely different in personality and temperament than Eduan in the real world?

I think its a hint being dropped as to something occurring behind the scenes, which has not yet been revealed.

Eduan in the data world might ally with FUG.

But something happened to Eduan in the real world which completely changed him and will prevent a FUG alliance.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

There's also something to be said about the OG13 not rallying around Zahard, at first, until they did. It seemed to be a bunch of different opinions.

They probably don't think there's a chance, but things could change once Baam proves himself, the Thorn emerges completed, and now that Gustang rebelled.

Gustang worked FOR Zahard with the Princess Program. Now he wants to tear him from his throne.

Things are certainly subject to change.

 

[Cinera]

There's also something to be said about the OG13 not rallying around Zahard, at first, until they did. It seemed to be a bunch of different opinions.

They probably don't think there's a chance, but things could change once Baam proves himself, the Thorn emerges completed, and now that Gustang rebelled.

Gustang worked FOR Zahard with the Princess Program. Now he wants to tear him from his throne.

Things are certainly subject to change.

I don't think that the Family Leaders were scared or intimidated by Zahard. I mean as we saw on the Data Floor, Eduan didn't consider himself a subordinate of Zahard's, and he thought that V was the better leader. Adult Eduan and Zahard are also on bad terms, yet Eduan supported Zahard over the person that he thought was a better leader.

All of the Family Leaders supported Zahard.

I think the reason is that V and Arlene were simply in the wrong or misguided. Maybe once the Tower is completed everyone within it dies. That would explain why even those that preferred V over Zahard chose to side with Zahard.

 

[Arjuna]

Remember Aguero Khun remarking upon how Eduan in the hidden level was completely different in personality and temperament than Eduan in the real world?

I think its a hint being dropped as to something occurring behind the scenes, which has not yet been revealed.

Eduan in the data world might ally with FUG.

But something happened to Eduan in the real world which completely changed him and will prevent a FUG alliance.

Exactly this is what I was saying...



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Thinking about it Urek may join Baam,(though he is not a Family Head but still an Irregular Ranker).In fact he has high possibility of joining Baam.

 

[zoradante1]

I don't think that the Family Leaders were scared or intimidated by Zahard. I mean as we saw on the Data Floor, Eduan didn't consider himself a subordinate of Zahard's, and he thought that V was the better leader. Adult Eduan and Zahard are also on bad terms, yet Eduan supported Zahard over the person that he thought was a better leader.

All of the Family Leaders supported Zahard.

I think the reason is that V and Arlene were simply in the wrong or misguided. Maybe once the Tower is completed everyone within it dies. That would explain why even those that preferred V over Zahard chose to side with Zahard.

If there is a condition like that why among all great warriors, V and Arlene were the one chose to climb while others didn't? Family leaders and zahard basically considers others except them as bug,triffles nothing important,so there is no need for them to protect these bugs and trifles or try to play the role of Hero in shadows while they are literally as*holes. On the other hand V was a someone who didn't change over the climb(with data eduan's info) and was closer to tower residents than any other 13 GWs while arlene is a kind person as said by gustang. So there is no need for 2 good person to continue climbing the tower which is going to kill everyone in tower if it's completed by your claim while other 11 as*holes who doesn't care about trifles and bugs so on, will stop the climbing and protect residents.

 

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

All of the Family Leaders supported Zahard.

I think the reason is that V and Arlene were simply in the wrong or misguided. Maybe once the Tower is completed everyone within it dies. That would explain why even those that preferred V over Zahard chose to side with Zahard.

I got to the same conclusion. Some additional small hints come from Gustang talking about V and the way Garam told Baam his mother story. I feel like they are in the wrong side of the story and that will be the big plot twist of ToG.

 

[zoradante1]

I got to the same conclusion. Some additional small hints come from Gustang talking about V and the way Garam told Baam his mother story. I feel like they are in the wrong side of the story and that will be the big plot twist of ToG.

Nah,it makes no sense. 10 FH and zahard are literally as*holes. They consider anything beneath them in power as bugs,trifles, don't care about their lives at all. Look at gustang,traumerei,eduan and zahard. They are different breed of as*holles,nothing much different except they are bred from a different mother and fathers. One doesn't care whether his loyal dog's wife,children and fellow subordinates die or not. Other considers other than himself and his comrades as bugs,doesn't even care about his daughter and eventually uses her like a toy in order to get greater status and lick zahard's boot better and got dumped by his wife. Other doesn't even care how much he breeds with other women and doesn't even care about the childrens he made, There is absolutely no children that loves Eduan truly, since Eduan teaches and makes them,siblings kill each other without a care as if this is nothing but casual lifestyle for them,and doesn't even care about his wife's deaths. Other is a simp who was enraged since he got rejected and killed baby baam even if both V and arlene did something wrong(though they didn't i'm just going by your claim) he shouldn't do this,No he wasn't satisfied,also made countless of genoicide,killing almost every ancient-native on tower just because they were super powerful,made princess fight and kill each other just to make bugs shut up. Do you really think They- the so-called hero-in-shadows-as you said,can be protector of tower and really didn't want to climb the tower just because if it's completed it would kill tower residents?? You seriously need to go to doctor dude.

On the other hand V was someone who was closer to tower residents than anyone else. While other Great warriors distanced themselves from tower residents as they kept climbing,V was still closer to them(though this is data eduan's info). While arlene was a kind person even accepted by someone like gustang,which makes zero sense.

 

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

10 FH and zahard are literally as*holes.

On the other hand V was someone who was closer to tower residents than anyone else.

SIU already shown us he can create multi-dimensional characters. But I guess that will depend on the demographics he will target the most with his story.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I don't think that the Family Leaders were scared or intimidated by Zahard. I mean as we saw on the Data Floor, Eduan didn't consider himself a subordinate of Zahard's, and he thought that V was the better leader. Adult Eduan and Zahard are also on bad terms, yet Eduan supported Zahard over the person that he thought was a better leader.

All of the Family Leaders supported Zahard.

I think the reason is that V and Arlene were simply in the wrong or misguided. Maybe once the Tower is completed everyone within it dies. That would explain why even those that preferred V over Zahard chose to side with Zahard.

Something changed though.

Further, they didn't support him initially. SIU says that at first there was infighting until something happened and everyone coalesced around Zahard and against V and Arlen.

 

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

Chapter 539 just confirmed that FHs have different opinions on what to do w/ Baam. They are split between protecting, neutral and killing him. So far, it is safe to add Gustang to neutral at least, and Zahard to killing him. Not sure about the rest but I would bet on a neutral stance fo most.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Chapter 539 just confirmed that FHs have different opinions on what to do w/ Baam. They are split between protecting, neutral and killing him. So far, it is safe to add Gustang to neutral at least, and Zahard to killing him. Not sure about the rest but I would bet on a neutral stance fo most.

Gustang is beyond neutral, he's been fostering Baam's growth and feeding him thorn fragments.

Yup, it's 100% confirmed there is a FH fracture, with some to be siding against the status quo.