Discussion Why did Annie kill the two titans held by the Recon Corps !?

[WIzarDE]

Hi everyone

Started reading attack on titan recently and went trough it like a mad man xD
One of the things that has been bothering me is why did Annie kill the two titans held by the Recon Corps!?

So one thing that has been told is that not much is known about the titans ... so am I correct to assume that those were the first two titans ever captured !?

If that is the case, what would happen if you killed any of the shifters by cutting the soft spot on the neck, for instance if you killed Arren would his titan body disintegrate and you would be left with his real body, or would his body disintegrate with the titans body!?

So was Annie instructed to kill the two titans so they wouldn't start ripping its meat apart only to find a person inside !?

 

[Zasz]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

I think she killed them in order to not let Anjie (I wrote her name right?) discover too much about the Titans and the secret they hide.
About Eren o the Titanshifters in general, I don't really know if their body would disappear along with the Titans ones.

 

[teioh]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

About Eren o the Titanshifters in general, I don't really know if their body would disappear along with the Titans ones.

Uh? Do you guys miss something? Let's check the last anime episode: when Eren titan body collapse (no cutted but I think there's no difference) he's still intact inside the neck. And the same was for Annie. It's not like titan woundd reflect on his host human body.

 

[Knifeshade]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

...which makes one wonder about Ymir's body. She had some limbs missing when she left her titan body. Though it looks like it's growing back nicely in the last chapter.

 

[Zasz]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

Uh? Do you guys miss something? Let's check the last anime episode: when Eren titan body collapse (no cutted but I think there's no difference) he's still intact inside the neck. And the same was for Annie. It's not like titan woundd reflect on his host human body.

I was talking about the possibility of Eren being hit and his titan body disappearing.
But I guess that either way the body would disappear.

 

[Utsune]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

I think if the person inside the nape is killed, their body would disappear along with the titan body.

Ape titan kinda indirectly suggested it when he said, "So you have some idea what's in our nape?" even though he only got it half right. And we haven't seen anyone popping out of downed titans yet :/

 

[Bandreus]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

Regarding damage to Titan Body vs damage to Shifter Body, it's been made pretty evident (I think) that the damage to one's Titan form doesn't reflect on the shifter inside it.

In fact Reiner makes it clear that Eren's missing limbs were a result of him not being careful enough when he took Eren out of his Titan: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/176327/shingeki-no-kyojin_v11_ch46_by_tdx/5

And well, Ymir's Titan was being feasted upon, so one can assume a Titan or two managed to taste a piece of the actual human inside it in the process. And this is the end result.

When it comes to regular Titans, it looks like the soul (or consciousness, or whatever you'd like to call it) is found in the nape, but there's no physical body there though. One could speculate that probably has to do with the fact the original human body gets completely dissolved into the Titan when the transformation happens, and the ability to maintain one's physical self intact is exclusive to shifters, a fact most likely linked to their ability to control their Titan. All of this still needs to be confirmed/explained in the manga, so take it with a pinch of salt.

 

[Demonspeed]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

Regarding damage to Titan Body vs damage to Shifter Body, it's been made pretty evident (I think) that the damage to one's Titan form doesn't reflect on the shifter inside it.

In fact Reiner makes it clear that Eren's missing limbs were a result of him not being careful enough when he took Eren out of his Titan: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/176327/shingeki-no-kyojin_v11_ch46_by_tdx/5



And well, Ymir's Titan was being feasted upon, so one can assume a Titan or two managed to taste a piece of the actual human inside it in the process. And this is the end result.

When it comes to regular Titans, it looks like the soul (or consciousness, or whatever you'd like to call it) is found in the nape, but there's no physical body there though. One could speculate that probably has to do with the fact the original human body gets completely dissolved into the Titan when the transformation happens, and the ability to maintain one's physical self intact is exclusive to shifters, a fact most likely linked to their ability to control their Titan. All of this still needs to be confirmed/explained in the manga, so take it with a pinch of salt.

Yes, it's evident. During Eren's transformation in Trost arc his titan lost both arms but Eren's arm was regenerated after this.

 

[teioh]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

Yes, it's evident someone click too much the Quote button XD

 

[Utsune]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

lol I was expecting a long read but what the hell XD

 

[Demonspeed]

Re: Why did Annie kill the two ttans held by the Recon Corps !?

Yes, it's evident someone click too much the Quote button XD

Edited. Must be the 4th times it happens to me.

 

[kkck]

How about this, they could have given away annie's cover. As we have seen titans are generally less than friendly to human titans. During the time eren first transformed into a human titan we saw quite a few of them wanting to eat eren. If I recall they even ignored actual humans in favor of devouring him. When annie first tried to kidnap eren we also saw how violently the titans tried to eat her. What if titans find human titans even more appealing than regular humans? If it came to it the titans might have reacted rather aggresively towards annie, more so than they would against others. Obviously the attention would have been unwanted.

 

[Bandreus]

Well but Annie was in the Police rather than the Scouting Legion, so it's not like she was likely to ever be around those Titans for them to show any unusual behavior.
Even if you consider it might have been Reiner's and Berth's cover to be on the line, I would still question why is it that it's Annie who does the actual dispatching.

She did bother with going outside wall Sina (it's there that the MP stay most of the time, right?) and going all the way to where the Scouts HQ is to take the Titans out, so I think it's safe to assume there's a deeper meaning to all of this.

 

[Utsune]

Concerning whether "it's Annie who does the actual dispatching," I think she would have been very straightforward in reply to Armin's question "Are you the one who killed them" if she really is the only one to do the job. Well that's my perception of her character anyway.

Basically, instead of saying a simple yes (or more like "yeah, whatcha gonna do about it?") she says "maybe, maybe not" and that makes me think there's something more to it. Just a hunch.

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Just to add. R&B still have their cover intact by that point, so if they were really involved, Annie's reply could simply be unconsciously covering for them but she just sucks at lying lol.

 

[Bandreus]

Actually, I think we are kind of being too focused on why Annie herself could have wanted to dispatch the two Titans like in 'what might her personal reason be'.

After all, we do know there's a circle of people/organizations actively hiding information about the Titans from those living inside the wall at large. You know, there's this whole thing about the government going as far as arresting people who are found owning books and the like, the Faith which is well aware of what's hidden inside the walls, etc.

In this regard I kind of think the OP might be on the right track, maybe Annie (if it was indeed her) was instructed with that task. She is in the Military Police, so the order might have arrived from her higher ups, or maybe she was acting on behalf of the faith...

Annie was acting under cover already and had a mission of her own. A mission which was probably more important than anything else. I don't really think it would make lots of sense for her to risk blowing up her cover and potentially compromising the mission, if that's only to take out two regular Titans. Now, if those were two shifters instead, that might have been very different, but we do know that was not the case.

 

[kkck]

Well but Annie was in the Police rather than the Scouting Legion, so it's not like she was likely to ever be around those Titans for them to show any unusual behavior.
Even if you consider it might have been Reiner's and Berth's cover to be on the line, I would still question why is it that it's Annie who does the actual dispatching.

She did bother with going outside wall Sina (it's there that the MP stay most of the time, right?) and going all the way to where the Scouts HQ is to take the Titans out, so I think it's safe to assume there's a deeper meaning to all of this.

Annie at the time was with them though, she had not yet picked a squad as far as I can recall. She was even present during the 3d gear inspection which resulted in armin getting suspicious. Perhaps annie doing it is what made the most sense overall. Annie was the most skilled at the 3d gear from what I recall and there is the fact that she was soon going to go away from everyone.

 

[Bandreus]

Ugh, yeah you're probably right, maybe I'm not recalling the right order of events.

 

[mikasaaa]

Sawney and Bean weren't the first titans to be captured by the Scouting Legion, Hanji herself said so.
So why did Annie feel the need to kill them, risking being exposed? My guess is that it has something to do with Eren, a shifter, entering the Scouting Legion. Why weren't Hanji's past experiments killed off before Eren was revealed to be a titan shifter?

Here are my guesses:
- Annie wanted Eren to be handed over to the Military Police so she could get her hands on him as soon as possible (and that might be one of the reasons for her to join that military branch besides spying on the Wall Cultists). Since his trial didn't do the job, she killed Sawney and Bean on purpose so Eren would be incriminated and sent to the Capital under the Military Police's care, (at least that's the first thing I thought when I saw it happen) but unfortunately for her Eren at the time was pulling an all-nighter talking with none other than Hanji, so they couldn't even suspect it was him.
- Annie knew that experimenting on ordinary titans as well as having a shifter (Eren) available as a test subject would lead to an undesirable outcome for Bertholdt, Reiner and her. Maybe Hanji, with enough time in her hands, would discover the key to titan shifting or something while studying the comparison between Eren and her two captured titans.

 

[Beatrice]

Where was it said it was Annie?As in actually saying it was her.
Quite sure it's still all speculation especially since it's stated that there were 2 people.
Incase you don't understand:
It means it cannot be Bertholdt and Reiner either as proven by the Investigation.

The proof lies within the proof here.
How did Armin believe it was Annie?

 

[ImmortalZodd]

If it wasn't Annie, then why would she give Marco's 3dm equipment for inspection afterwards?