Discussion Win/Loss records

THM Nindo · Mar 8, 2011

Here's the thread to discuss the win or the loss of various characters.

Please note, that I'm not including llittle skirmish like Naruto fighting the two brother from Kiri, or Shikamaru and Choji fighting Sai, etc)

Also, there might be some debate regarding if certain fights are Wins, Losses or Draws...

For example, what was the resut of the fight between Kankuro and Shino?
- Technically, everyone agrees that Shino won, because he use a trick to beat Kankuro.
- Though, you could argue that it was a Draw, because Shino was taken out too in the end
- And someone could even argue that Kankuro won, since Kankuro would have eventually woke up, but that Shino, on the other end, would have eventually died from the poison if he wasn't saved by his father...

Feel free to discuss! :tem

Here's the current standing:

Naruto: 11-3-3
Sasuke: 10-8-5
Sakura: 1-3-1
Kakashi: 4-4-1

Shikamaru: 4-3-1
Choji: 3-3-0
Ino: 2-2-1

Neji: 3-2-0
Lee: 2-4-0
Tenten: 1-2-0

Shino: 2-0-0
Kiba: 0-2-0
Hinata: 0-2-0

Gaara: 5-2-1
Kankuro: 3-3-0
Temari: 2-0-1

Naruto

Part1
- Zabuza (Win; with Sasuke and Kakashi's help)
- Haku (Win; although Haku could have kill him if he really wanted)
- Kiri team (Win)
- Kiba (Win)
- Neji (Win)
- Gaara (Win)
- Kabuto (Win?; Kabuto was weaken by Tsunade?)
- Sasuke at the hospital (Draw? It was shown that Naruto's jutsu was stronger)
- Kimmimaro (Loss)
- Sasuke (Loss)

Part2
- Itachi's clone (Win)
- Deidera (??...he didn't even really fought him...)
- Orochimaru (Draw; pushed Oro to the limit, but wasn't really winning either)
- Sasuke (Loss... although I wouldn't really call that a fight)
- Kakuzu (Win)
- Pain (Win? He would have lost if Pain was trying to kill him instead of capturing him)
- Sasuke (Draw)
- Kyubbi (Win; although I'm not sure this should be consider a real fight...)

So, Naruto technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 11-3-3 for a total of 17 fights.

11-3-3 for a total of 17 fights.

Sasuke

Part1
- Zabuza (Win; with Sasuke and Kakashi's help)
- Haku (Loss; although he kinda sacrificed himself to save Naruto)
- Lee (Loss?; he might have made a comeback, but as far as that fight goes, he lost it)
- Orochimaru in the forest (Loss; fought well, but ultimately was defeated)
- Sound team (Win)
- Kiri team (Win)
- Yoroi (Win)
- Gaara (Draw; Sasuke had a good start, but the fight was stopped before Gaara could even start fighting)
- Gaara (Loss)
- Itachi (Loss)
- Naruto (Draw?, although it was shown that Naruto's jutsu was stronger)
- 4 Sound (Loss)
- Naruto (Win)

Part2
- Naruto (Win)
- Orochimaru (Win)
- Deidera (Win)
- Itachi (Win? Yeah... Itachi let him win, but... in his record, it's still a win)
- Killerbee (Draw; he kinda won the fight, but Killerbee killed him more than once during the fight and was playing him all along and he made him look like an idiot)
- Raikage (Draw; he was about to be killed and kill him when Gaara stopped them)
- Gaara (... Not really a fight...)
- Mizukage (Loss; he was about to be melted when Zetsu saved him)
- Tsuchikage (Loss; he was about to be pulverized when Tobi saved him)
- Danzou (Win)
- Naruto (Draw)

So, Sasuke technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 10-8-5 for a total of 23 fights.

10-8-5 for a total of 23 fights.

Sakura

*Not really counting the fight against Zabuza and Haku, or even the fight against the Kiri team in the forest, since she did nothing. She wasn't realy fighting anyway...

Part1:
- Team Sound (Loss)
- Ino (Draw)

Part2:
- Sasori (Win)
- Sasuke (Loss; although there wasn't much of a fight)
- Sasuke (Loss; plus she looked like an idiot and lost all credibility)

So, Sakura technically, even when she had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 1-3-1 for a total of 5 fights.

1-3-1 for a total of 5 fights.

Kakashi

*Should I count the little altercation with Orochimaru, or with Kabuto? Nothing happened really so I didn't count them...

Part1
- Zabuza (Draw? Lost at first, but then once he was saved by Naruto and Sasuke, won the fight)
- Zabuza (Win)
- Itachi (Loss)

Part2

- Itachi's clone (Win)
- Deidera (Win; forced Deidera to flee)
- Kakuzu (Loss; he was pushed to the limit, although he needed to protect Ino and Choji, and said that he could have won by using Kamui)
- Pain (Loss; although he would have win if Akuma Pain wouldn't have saved him)
- Sasuke (Loss?; Sasuke was clearly out of chakra, but he was still clearly superior)
- Zabuza and Haku zombies (Win)

So, Kakashi technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 4-4-1 for a total of 9 fights.

4-4-1 for a total of 9 fights.

Shikamaru

Part1
- Team Sound (Loss; Sasuke saved their ass)
- Kin (Win)
- Temari (Draw; He won, but was out of chakra and forfeit)
- Tayuya (Loss; Out of chakra again)

Part2
- Hidan/Kakuzu (Loss)
- Hidan (Win)
- Kinkaku (Win)
- Asuma (Win; in progress, but we all know that he will win)

So, Shikamaru technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 4-3-1 for a total of 8 fights.

4-3-1 for a total of 8 fights.

Choji

Part1
- Team Sound (Loss; Sasuke saved their ass)
- Dosu (Loss)
- Jirobo (Win; although he would have die without any treatment)

Part2
- Kakuzu (Loss)
- Pain (Loss)
- Kinkaku (Win)
- Asuma (Win; in progess, but we know he will win)

So, Choji, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 3-3-0 for a total of 6 fights.

3-3-0 for a total of 6 fights.

Ino

Part1
- Team Sound (Loss; Sasuke saved their ass)
- Sakura (Draw)

Part2
- Kakuzu (Loss)
- Kinkaku (Win)
- Asuma (Win; In progress, but we know she will win)

So, Ino, technically, even when she had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 2-2-1 for a total of 5 fights.

2-2-1 for a total of 5 fights.

Neji

Part1
- Hinata (Win)
- Naruto (Loss)
- Kidomaru (Win; although he would have died without any treatment)

Part2
- Kisame's clone (Loss; they would be dead withouth Gai)
- Neji clone (Win)

So, Neji, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 3-2-0 for a total of 5 fights.

3-2-0 for a total of 5 fights.

Lee

Part1
- Sasuke (Win; Sasuke could have made a comeback, but as the fight went, Lee won)
- Team Sound (Loss)
- Gaara (Loss)
- Kimmimaro (Loss; He was saved by Gaara)

Part2
- Kisame's clone (Loss; they would be death without Gai)
- Lee clone (Win)

So, Lee, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 2-4-0 for a total of 6 fights.

2-4-0 for a total of 6 fights.

Tenten

Part1
- Temari (Loss)

Part2
- Kisame's clone (Loss; they would be dead without Gai)
- Tenten clone (Win)
* Now that she might have the banana fan, she might shine soon in the manga!!

So, Tenten, technically, even when she had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 1-2-0 for a total of 3 fights.

1-2-0 for a total of 3 fights.

Shino

Part1
- Kaku (Win)
- Kankuro (Win; he won, although he would have died if he wouldn't have been healed)

Part2
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So, Shino, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 2-0-0 for a total of 2 fights.

2-0-0 for a total of 2 fights.

Kiba

Part1
- Naruto (Loss)
- Sakon/Ukon (Loss)

Part2
-

So, Kiba, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 0-2-0 for a total of 2 fights.

0-2-0 for a total of 2 fights.

Hinata

Part1
- Neji (Loss)

Part2
- Pain (Loss)

So, Hinata, technically, even when she had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 0-2-0 for a total of 2 fights.

0-2-0 for a total of 2 fights.

Gaara

Part1
- The needle guy team (Win)
- Lee (Win)
- Dosu (Win)
- Sasuke (Draw; fight wasn't really started when they stopped)
- Sasuke (Win)
- Naruto (Loss)
- Kimmimaro (Win)

Part2
- Deidera (Loss)
- Sasuke (... not really a fight...)

So, Gaara, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 5-2-1 for a total of 8 fights.

5-2-1 for a total of 8 fights.

Kankuro

Part1
- Misumi (Win)
- Shino (Loss? He lost, but technically he would have lived, and Shino would have eventually died from the poisonning)
- Sakon/Akon (Win)

Part2
- Sasori (Loss)
- Deidera/Sasori Zombies (Win; with help)
- Hanzo zombie (Loss because of poison gaz; although the fight is not over)

So, Kankuro, technically, even when he had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 3-3-0 for a total of 6 fights.

3-3-0 for a total of 6 fights.

Temari

Part1
- Tenten (Win)
- Shikamaru (Draw; she lost but Shikamaru was out of chakra and forfeit)
- Tayuya (Win)

Part2
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So, Temari, technically, even when she had help or was at advantage by the situation, stands at : 2-0-1 for a total of 3 fights.

2-0-1 for a total of 3 fights.

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To me it seems like there are people who have a lot of love from Kishi (Naruto, Sasuke, Shikamaru, etc), but other than really should have more fight, since they are so important (Kakashi, Sakura), and even others that just doesn't had any chance to shine really or are constently shown losing (Team 8, Team Gai).

Who do you think deserve to shine? Who should Kishi give more fight?

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I might have been missing some fights (although some were not included on purpose).

Feel free to discuss those above or new characters that I didn't included in my first draft.

If you create an accurate Win/Loss record for a character, I will include it above with the other! :tem