Discussion Your Own Hatsu!

[Uriel]

Re: Make your own hatsu!

It's easier to think for others than for one's self.

You've to look inside, young padawan.

Actually the technique I made that no one commented, bitches, was after at least 3 years of not knowing what I like in life. True story. Until I arrived to that word, to that thing that made me whole or described me the better.

Think on a word that describes you. Then think into something you like and something you're good at it. Only then we can say what's your technique and how to apply it to your particular Hatsu.

PS: I was thinking on test to determine your Hatsu, since I agree Internet lacks of a good one. Should I make a new thread or just here?

 

[Jack Van Burace]

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Hatsu Type: Emission
Name: Shade Demon

Aura is sprayed in the air and goes into someone's body through breathing, like a virus. Nobody protects their lungs with Aura, and normal air has to get through, so it's usually an open spot. Once inside, Nen comes together and takes the shape of an entity watching every step of that person and sending information back to me. Information includes body status and aura movements and skills. If the infested person ever think of attacking me, that will trigger metabolic effects on the individual leading to corrosion of stomach by its own acid and loss of consciousness.

Its main purpose is gathering of info. If the person becomes an enemy, suddenly will start losing consciousness and its own stomach will act as a timed bomb, corroding its walls till the person dies. The condition is that Nen must act from inside the person to outside, otherwise none of this works. The effects can all be countered with regular medication, but one would have to know what is the deal preemptively, otherwise there wouldn't be available time.

Upon need, aura can come into the bloodstream of a person through a seringe or a wound just the same as it would with breathing. The latter is just the standard method.

 

[Riku]

Re: Make your own hatsu!

I really like this thread, lot of fun!

But I have hard time thinking of a personal hatsu, since I can't really decide what nen type I'd be. I guess based on Hisokas definition and other references I guess Manipulation, but quizzes give me Materialization, Transformation and special nearly as often. I'd count out the special, since I'm not too charismatic... I have a few ideas for Manipulation and Materialization. I'll post here as soon as I come up with details.

 

[zelllogan]

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As I said earlier, My favourite Hatsu is Emission. My reason is quite simple: I don't like to fight physically (while I have no issue to do so with words ).

So, this is the ability I imaginated for this specific Hatsu.

Name: Cylinder

Explanation:
Generation of the Cylinder:
Basically you can generate a cylinder of nen around your body. And it's done in two steps:
Step 1) the cylinder is generated with emission
Step 2) Using Manipulation, nen is spinning at maximum speed in a anti-clockwise direction
Release of the Cylinder:
A drawing will be clearer than an explanation:

Spoiler

Effects:
Cylinder Generated:
Any attacks will be deflected by the high speed spinning nen
Cylinder Released:
A deadly nen slash will basically be released.

Conditions/Drawbacks
Cylinder Generated:
- Height can only be chosen at step 1.
- Cylinder is not a sphere ... So, you're not protected from ground attacks & sky attacks.
- Generated cylinder is immobile. It's staying at the same place until release.
Cylinder Released:
- The "slash" is the one & only way to release the cylinder. It means, that once the cylinder is generated,
a slice must be made to release it.

 

[Uriel]

Re: Make your own hatsu!

Hatsu Type: Specialization
Name: Devil's Teaching

This technique fits actually in Manipulation perfectly.

Hatsu Type: Emission
Name: Shade Demon

I assume that you use IN with it since it will be easily detected the flow between one place or another and even if not, En should be enough to detect a different kind of nen in one's own body.

Name: Cylinder

Ohhh, interesting. Kinda reminds me of Kaito' Scythe attack. Powerful. Although it would be better if you could move it at least in a sphere if you get what I mean.

 

[Riku]

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Name: The Satchel
Hatsu:Materialization

Description:

User conjures a satchel. Something like this.. You can store items of any size and weight in the satchel. For the the user, the weight of the bag only increses one tenth of the objects real weight. So considering a decent hunter is able to lift atleast one of Zoldycks gates, 4 tons, the weight of the satchel can be 40 tons. Thats fricking lot of stuff. For others than the conjurer himself, the weight of the satchel is the real weight of the items within it. So here is the battle application of it - 40 tons swing to the face. However, that is just theoretical. If this would be really my hatsu, the weight would be considerably less, even if we were in HxH universe, I still wouldn't be physically that strong. And it is totally different to lift 4 tons, than carry it around all the time. The bag can also store nen. Side pocket incules (an also conjured) notebook which has automatically updated list of what is within the bag and the real weight.

Conditions/flaws:
- Requires also some extent of mastery of manipulation (the weight part, and items shrinking when near the entrance of the bag)

- One can only store objects that are his own, or have the agreement of the objects real owner, however objects can be stolen following certain guidelines:
1. Stolen object can be stored within the satchel for 30 mins. After that it shoots out from the bag and cannot be put back in. This sets a time limit
2. If you can within the 30mins buy the object from the owner, or make him give/borrow it to you or defeat him you can keep it in the bag.
3. Defeat doesn't mean necessarily battle. Can be any sort of challenge the owner of the object agrees to. Chess, janken, whatever. Very simple way of dealing this is taunting the owner in the challenge of "tag". "Haha, you get it back if you can catch me" If he starts chasing you, he has unconsiously agreed to the challenge of tag. In which case you need to just avoid him/her for the 30 mins

- Storing nen is a double edged sword. Asuming you managed to win the stolen ability with 30min challenge, it is still one time use only. You can of course use it right a way after putting it in the bag, but then it isn't yours, and can't be controlled exactly. Also, let's consider the ability you stole in the bag is something like Uvos Big Bang. (Like putting the open satchel in front of the punch) A) The weight of the bag suddenly increases like crazy, even if the nen doesn't exactly have a weight. It comes from the power/level of the nen used B) don't expect anything else in the bag being intact after that. Broken to shards, the objects dissappear, and you lose valuable weight of the bag. However, note that if you have friends with strong nen skills, you can always carry a free one-time-use copy of that power with you. But the compability issues affect the strenght of the attack.

- To put in or to take something from the back requires you to have the notebook on the other hand, and your eyes on it as the object name and weight appears to the list. This of course takes your both hands, and focus of vision, making you rather vulnerable for a short period. Makes stealing nen abilities extremely hard.

- As we know, the conjured item must stay close to the user. If you leave the bag somewhere for long enough it explodes. The size of the explosion depends on how much stuff you have in it. Can be used as a bomb, but conjuring it again takes a lot of time and energy, also everything within is destroyed.

Hmm, maybe that is too complex for a materialization ability. Might even slip to special.

 

[zelllogan]

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Ustegius>> Your ability is an immense melting pot of existing things:
- Novu's ability
- The ability of that guy with the cape who took everything in Yorkshin.
- There is also the "stealing" principle from Kuroro or Leol.

Basically, it's based on the Hammer Space principle but involve stolen nen as well.

It's way too complicated for materialization IMO.

 

[Riku]

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I know, it got too complex. When thinking of it I really didn't think of already seen abilities, but it also struck me that it has something from of the ones you mentioned (and bit of Deme-chan too). But it ain't identical to any of those abilities. No multiple rooms or enterances to the created dimension, no people can enter. Owl guys cape is the closest, but still different. Only like Kuroro or Leol, the ability stealing is for one-time use only; hardly worth the trouble. Storing stuff and hitting with it is very similar to Deme-chan idea, though no suction or teeth. But yeah, got too complex. Basicly it could be just simplified to a bag which can store (almost, weight limit, no nen) anything, but which doesn't weight anything to the conjurer, but that would be just boring.

 

[zelllogan]

Re: Make your own hatsu!

I know, it got too complex. When thinking of it I really didn't think of already seen abilities, but it also struck me that it has something from of the ones you mentioned (and bit of Deme-chan too). But it ain't identical to any of those abilities. No multiple rooms or enterances to the created dimension, no people can enter. Owl guys cape is the closest, but still different. Only like Kuroro or Leol, the ability stealing is for one-time use only; hardly worth the trouble. Storing stuff and hitting with it is very similar to Deme-chan idea, though no suction or teeth. But yeah, got too complex. Basicly it could be just simplified to a bag which can store (almost, weight limit, no nen) anything, but which doesn't weight anything to the conjurer, but that would be just boring.

I find funny that most of us are coming up with abilities with really original conditions but the basic idea behind each ability was already seen somewhere.

 

[Uriel]

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@Ust: You know, storing Nen is different than storing a technique. Not every technique can be stored and even if so, some of them are hard to use for the others. Not to mention the special conditions of each one and how many of those you can store.
Also...A Big bang attack is as strong as a bazooka. That means you can store those kind of projectiles? What is the limit of the force you can store? How would you measure that? You Ren? Your Ten? Your Kou? Storing with just opening is a too easy condition for such a technique. I don't critique the effects, but I think the conditions are just weak for the effects.

I find funny that most of us are coming up with abilities with really original conditions but the basic idea behind each ability was already seen somewhere.

It's kinda hard to come up with something completely original, actually, since the superpower lottery is well known :P

 

[kkck]

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To be honest I would think storing things is something that would be somewhat of a deep ability and would require some more strict conditions. Even with the cape I don't think you would be able to store something that the cape can't cover to begin with. Shizuku has been implied to have one of the rarest abilities in the ryodan and even then she can't suck up living things although it is worth mentioning she can indeed suck things infinitely. Making an infinite space of sorts would require strict conditions just for it to exist and stealing would require even stronger conditions. Unless you are a specialization (in which case the rules don't apply to you) then I don't think this ability is actually viable.

 

[Riku]

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Yeah, and even Shizukus ability has a limit. Atleast according to wiki she can only return the item sucked in last. Dunno how accurate that is though, since I don't remember it being mentione in the manga.

Makes me wonder what kinda constrictions Knovs Safe House had. Don't remember anymore.

 

[kkck]

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Knov's ability does not have infinite space if I recall. The manga hasn't elaborated much on knov's ability nor its restrictions though. This is what the manga says about shizuku's ability.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v09/c077/4.html
It is quite weird that she does not even know where the stuff goes IMO. more so, it seems stuff she absorbs is kinda lost forever..... it would be cool if she simply would send a camera in and back just to see lol.

 

[Riku]

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Interesting that it actually says "what Shizuku considers living". Shows that the nen ability has lot to do with the users personality and mindset. Maybe Shizukus rare ability is possibble only due to her certain simpleness and absent-mindness. But the camera thing would be bit scary. I'd predict a sea of blood. With some corpses and other objects here and there.

But to stay on topic, here is simple manipulation one. Since we've seen a handfull of Hunter specialized in manipulating certain type of animals (dogs, leeches, and now birds). Well, considering my personal tastes the animal would be obvious

Type: Manipulation
Name: Meow
Description: User is specialized in manipulating feline creatures. The longer you've known the cat and more it respects you the easier it comes to communicate and manipulate it. Minimum requirement to manipulate any cat is a touch. However, the bigger cat the harder it gets. The more of the following rules are met, more complex orders can be given to the cat, and more accurately it follows them.
-Scratching behind ear or under chin. Petting in general
- Feeding it fish or other treats
- Being able to catch it
- Defeating it/ making it surrender (lay on its back, legs up, throat exposed, you know what I mean)
- The time you've known the animal
- It respects you
- Understanding the animals individual traits
- And so on

Maybe with the cats you've had long you could "warg" into. See through their eyes and read thought. Not sure though if that is withing the realms of manipulation. Not particulary strong technique, but it would be totally cool to ride a giant fang tiger.

 

[kkck]

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I guess "what she considers living things" is what allows her to suck the blood out of someone but not the person itself. I find the use of such a technicality cheap though. Manipulating animals is quite common. We have seen birds and dogs manipulated so far. I would love to see someone manipualte an animal to transform it into something else though, kinda making a 12 foot tall cat with iron claws lol.

 

[Uriel]

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And you don't need too many restrictions to do so, since it's not a hard task.

And the thing about Deme Chan is that it has only a solely function. If your bag had only one function it would be "easier" to work out.

 

[Jack Van Burace]

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Well, I've been thinking about how the Water Divination occurs, and when an Emission user does it, the water changes colour. Pokkle is also an emission user, and he uses colored arrows. I thought first it had to do with Transformation, as color would be a property of matter that Nen can embrace, but now I am starting to think Emission has a relationship to colours. Light is a form of emission, and colors are spectrums of Light. I suppose there's more to it than we currently know about Emission.

Getting to the point, perhaps an Emission user can send to others an entirely misleading view of himself, like an illusion. The way we see others is through light rebounded, and the way Gyo perceives Nen is through the leaking aura. If one can control the emission of light and aura, one can pull a Meleoron and be invisible unless touched by En. And even so, using In, one might mislead even En. But I am not sure one would be able to emit Aura in this way and keep aura around himself under In at the same time.

I don't know if I'm missing something on my thinking.

 

[Uriel]

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Remember when Senritsu projected that field? She is after all Emission, so I guess you're right. I think Emission is also very related to perception in some way. And wasn't a relation between parts of the body and Hatsus said by Wing? I thought it was interesting even if it was not the truth.

 

[ErosVp]

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It is easier to come up with abilities for emission and materialization, but since the tests i made says i'm transmutations and manipulation (a bit of specialization too) i had a hard time thinking of something! XD

Name of the techinique: tic tac boom
Nen type: transmutation
Description: Make the aura mimic the properties of explosives and add it to objects which the user touches (with any naked part of his body. toes, fingers, etc). The explosion can be set to happen in 3 seconds, 30 seconds, or 3 minutes. The strengh of the explosion is determined by the density of the object (weight per unit volume), so small and heavy objects can make more damage. Also, the object can't have more than 1 kilogram.
Example:Perfect for assassination. The user might touch the button of an elevator as the target is entering, and leave the target for death. the user might be able to touch a pen and set a trap. These actions would work better with the time set for 30 seconds or 3 minutes....
For actual battles, it would be cool to have custom coins with different densities (to avoid big explosion in dangerous areas). The user could even step in a stone and lead the opponent there for a trap....

Edit: after reading again, i wonder if this would not be specialization.....

 

[Jack Van Burace]

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I don't remember Senritsu doing that right now. I always thought she was Specialization, since she's able to use sound perception, which wouldn't fit so well into any cathegory: Reinforcement of hearing, Perception of emission, heavy condition for using it (her appearance), etc. I always believed she previously needed conditions for having that understanding of music, and after the incident that turned her like that, the conditions were gone (becoming a monster overuled the other conditions). And Neon would perceive the future, so powers related to understanding something odd would be all Specialization. Plus, she's odd, and detail oriented, characteristics that distance her from Emission and aproach her from Specialization.

Anyways, if we come to the conclusion that Emission has more to do with colours than we previously thought, I suppose we could go deeper into creating an Emission hatsu. I've always liked Conjuration a lot, and thought my Hatsu would fall between Manipulation or Specialization, and since we never saw an Emitter actually developing its powers, it's the least known to me. We saw one Reinforcer (Gon), one Transformer (Killua), one Conjurer (Kurapica) and Kurapica got Specialization with the red eyes, so we understand the creation process of each of these. But Manipulation and Emission we need to reverse-engineer in order to create something on those lines.

Except Manipulation is easier to understand, since one must pick something to manipulate and the conditions and pledges to make it happen. Emission on the other hand gets confused with Materialization, and is often used "only" as Nen bullets or huge shots one can walk on top (Zeno's dragon). So it's almost the least creative one, only behind Reinforcement. Afterall, what we'll get inspiration from? Dragonball?