Fantasy Zeref VS August

August VS Zeref


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then that means FG did utilize external energy which gives it it's own strength which is many times greater than that of Jura and is not relative to Cana's own magic power.
Not entirely true.
Maybe the spell that Jura used saturates at 5% of Jura's total magical capacity (cause we have no reason to believe Jura used his strongest attack for that contest, considering he was casual AF). While it saturates for Cana at 50% of her magic capacity.
There is a reason why strong spells exhaust users fast.

Obviously the power of the spell depends on the power of the user as well. Even if we consider the "sun. moon energy" literally, 'how much energy is converted' obviously depend on the ability of the user.
Don't tell me that Laxus and Cana using Fairy Glitter will have the same attack power.

We don't know how much power from sun's and moon's radiation is converted to energy here.
Your 'multi-continental' (which is actually planetary, but whatever) figures come from the power generated AT sun. We have no reason to assume that Fairy Glitter takes in power AT sun, logically it should take in the power of sun's radiation AT Earth (cause that's where the spell is being cast, she isn't taking energy from 100 million kms away, don't tell me freaking Cana has that much range).
And even AT Earth, it logically shouldn't take in all of power Sun radiates TO ALL of Earth, cause Cana doesn't have that range. It's at best, the energy of Sun's radiation in a surface area of AT MOST 100 km-sq (I'm giving benefit of doubt and assuming Cana has range of 10 km, which itself is way too much for fodder like her)
Above the earth's atmosphere, solar radiation has an intensity of approximately 1380 watts per square meter (W/m2). This value is known as the Solar Constant. At our latitude, the value at the surface is approximately 1000 W/m2 on a clear day at solar noon in the summer months.
So, no more "multi continental" shit anymore please. Even if we are taking "sun's and moon's power" literally and apply.
 
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Yes they do, they did as the spells do represent the strength of one's MP as the MPF states.

no, Jura was stated to have given it his all, he even clarified that he can give it his all, which he did. We do know how much energy as the Moon's energy is 6.1292301e15 watts, while with the Sunlight, it is 3.86e26 watts. and guess what, it was still night time when that happened, so area covered does not mean anything.
 

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Yes they do, they did as the spells do represent the strength of one's MP as the MPF states.

no, Jura was stated to have given it his all, he even clarified that he can give it his all, which he did. We do know how much energy as the Moon's energy is 6.1292301e15 watts, while with the Sunlight, it is 3.86e26 watts.
My dude, that is Power. Not energy. Watt = Power.

and guess what, it was still night time when that happened, so area covered does not mean anything.
When was night?
 

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Power is the amount of energy transferred, still relative, It has been night on Tenrou during the fire, until after Hades was defeated did the Sun rise. same with when Cana was freeing Mavis
 

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Power is the amount of energy transferred, still relative, It has been night on Tenrou during the fire, until after Hades was defeated did the Sun rise. same with when Cana was freeing Mavis
Tell me this.

Are you saying that Cana is taking ALL of sun's POWER (not intensity) at the place where it's Generated?
 

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Tell me this.

Are you saying that Cana is taking ALL of sun's POWER (not intensity) at the place where it's Generated?
Well since FG has that range, and is in general without specific minimization, yes. even with intensity it would not change much with how wide the area is in comparison
 

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Not entirely true.
Maybe the spell that Jura used saturates at 5% of Jura's total magical capacity (cause we have no reason to believe Jura used his strongest attack for that contest, considering he was casual AF). While it saturates for Cana at 50% of her magic capacity.
There is a reason why strong spells exhaust users fast.
I think everyone used their strongest attack on that MPF thing. otherwise they deserve to lose that tournament
 

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I think everyone used their strongest attack on that MPF thing. otherwise they deserve to lose that tournament
Correct
 

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Lol, FG has the power of a Sun, just another to add to the list.
I guess country busting Jacob is small fry now, but I guess he's at least better than city busting Acno
 

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What did I just read?this thread became a science class with astrophysicist/planetary scientist arguing about facts.lol.:Haha
 

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It is simply that strong, that is a fact
 

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I guess my house is Sun tier, cause you know, solar panels. My little chestnut tree out the back>>>Zeref.
 

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I guess my house is Sun tier, cause you know, solar panels. My little chestnut tree out the back>>>Zeref.
it is not because it has a specified limit, while FG is the light of the sun, moon and stars in general
 

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it is not because it has a specified limit, while FG is the light of the sun, moon and stars in general
That would make FG equivalent to trillions of suns, because there are trillions of stars out there. NLF to the extreme. And FG isn't the light of the sun, moon and stars "in general", stop making shit up. The spell concentrates light into power, the weeds in my backyard do that too. Weed-kun>>>Zeref
 

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That would make FG equivalent to trillions of suns, because there are trillions of stars out there. NLF to the extreme. And FG isn't the light of the sun, moon and stars "in general", stop making shit up. The spell concentrates light into power, the weeds in my backyard do that too. Weed-kun>>>Zeref
Well stars based on luminosity is not that impressive when compared to the sun's luminosity, so it is still more than 3.846e+26 watts but nor more than Star, Level. yes FG is the light of the Sun Moon and Stars, there is no specific context to say that it is a limited amount.
 
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Well stars based on luminosity is not that impressive when compared to the sun's luminosity, so it is still more than 3.846e+26 watts but nor more than Star, Level. yes FG is the light of the Sun Moon and Stars, there is no specific context to say that it is a limited amount.
That's called NLF, might as well call Bluenote solar system level cause he can make "Black Holes"
 

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That's called NLF, might as well call Bluenote solar system level cause he can make "Black Holes"
Bluenot would be considered Unknown tier for logical reasons, and it would make sense since None of the characters went inside the black hole so they do not get the stats increase, and it was destroyed by hax
 
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