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R1: Base zeref
R2: FH zeref against BDSK with DF (If they show it in the future)
zerefs not that good in combat, probably why natsu was able to hold his own against him, i dont remember zeref using any haxEven tho I have an assumed bias toward Zeref and Spriggans, getting bested by Natsu twice in a fist fight did him absolutely no favour.
On 1v1 or maybe even 1v2, I would gladly say that he takes it, but the 4 of them simultaneously, I think he would get his ass badly whooped, unless he loves them like a loving father.
With FH tho, he would outlast them by constantly going back in time.
In all honesty, my hype for Zeref went right down the toilet after his first Natsu fight, he wasn't that impressive of a fighter to me, August was a better one to my eyes, even tho his backstory was touching. His pure might won't help him in such situation.
Zeref was not at full powerRemember Ultear kicking his immortal ass?
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bro what? when did zeref lose to base natsu? in there first fight there were no winners lmao it ended as a tie, none of the BDSK can even KO zeref since even an igneel powered natsu (someone who is his kryptonite) failed to do it, zeref was still perfectly fine after taking a powerful hit (that would vaporize the BDSK) even tho it was his weakness also the version of natsu that defeated FH zeref wasn't "base" natsu lmao natsu was powered up by his wild emotions (which is another powerup that he got i guess), that same natsu would vaporize any dragon gods wanna know why? because SF (i just call him SF since its easier) burned his own arm, natsu burning his own arm is harder then burning time-space since his arm slowly began burning after his burned zerefs time-space magic (which is another feat that surpasses the dragon gods by a mile), and no ignias flames NEVER burned natsus arms, that is obviously just character design unless stated otherwise and thats like saying that END burned natsus own arms because look at the similarityZeref gets oneshotted by any of these BSDK the guy is a fodder losing to base natsu
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@Jean Grey will u do the honorbro what? when did zeref lose to base natsu? in there first fight there were no winners lmao it ended as a tie, none of the BDSK can even KO zeref since even an igneel powered natsu (someone who is his kryptonite) failed to do it, zeref was still perfectly fine after taking a powerful hit (that would vaporize the BDSK) even tho it was his weakness also the version of natsu that defeated FH zeref wasn't "base" natsu lmao natsu was powered up by his wild emotions (which is another powerup that he got i guess), that same natsu would vaporize any dragon gods wanna know why? because SF (i just call him SF since its easier) burned his own arm, natsu burning his own arm is harder then burning time-space since his arm slowly began burning after his burned zerefs time-space magic (which is another feat that surpasses the dragon gods by a mile), and no ignias flames NEVER burned natsus arms, that is obviously just character design unless stated otherwise and thats like saying that END burned natsus own arms because look at the similarity
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both of them have holes on each other so yeah ignia never burned natsus arms it was just character design. anyways back to where we were, natsu burning his hand>natsu burning time-space and wanna know why this scales to zeref? its because natsus fire burned the fairy heart thus knocking zeref back to his base form and even tho he was in his base form, still containing all the injures that SF natsu dealt to him, zeref was still conscious and was still able to talk so idk why you are using SF natsu to downplay him (assuming u are talking about him since SF natsu is the only natsu that zeref lost to), SF natsu would destroy the DGs and BDSK.
Also timestop,death orbs,death waves,immobilization,repent GG, or zeref just crushes them like how he crushed makarov
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and honestly its hard to believe that people actually thing that the team can win R2
just proves that suzaku fans are clowns
is he the person thats gonna send zeref getting one shot by SF natsu?@Jean Grey will u do the honor![]()
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does not change the fact that zeref neggsLOL that's all i'm gonna say(and poeple should responed to you with the same too because it's the perfect reply to every post you've written so far in this forum).
?Till in base form tho idk![]()
I was trying to say it’s still his base form nothing change that fact
so u agree that FH zeref wins?I was trying to say it’s still his base form nothing change that fact
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Several people can beat base natsu except zeref the guy was struggling against him in fact got oneshotted by him I can’t take him seriously.so u agree that FH zeref wins?
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or are u saying that FH zeref = base zeref?
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Thank u I’ve been saying that zeref is a pathetic villain complete fodderEven tho I have an assumed bias toward Zeref and Spriggans, getting bested by Natsu twice in a fist fight did him absolutely no favour.
On 1v1 or maybe even 1v2, I would gladly say that he takes it, but the 4 of them simultaneously, I think he would get his ass badly whooped, unless he loves them like a loving father.
With FH tho, he would outlast them by constantly going back in time.
In all honesty, my hype for Zeref went right down the toilet after his first Natsu fight, he wasn't that impressive of a fighter to me, August was a better one to my eyes, even tho his backstory was touching. His pure might won't help him in such situation.
SF natsu is fancy word for POF in which@LaGOAT dude, yes i agree several people can beat base natsu and zeref is ONE of them
the natsu that FH zeref fought was SF natsu not BASE u clown and SF natsu would stomp anyone in the series except for acno,igneel and ignia (because of fire immunity)
base zeref tied with base natsu was because
1. natsu had his kryptonite which is a portion of IGNEELS powers
2. zeref never used his hax
3. natsu burns magic, so hes basically a counter to zeref
Ya pathetic…
If u think that natsu had POF then why tf do u think that anything can beat POF base natsu? lmaoSF natsu is fancy world for POF in which
natsu can get that in base DF LFD etc the fact that natsu beat him in base speaks volumes about natsu and zeref.
zeref had infinite magic but lost to a guy that is base formYa pathetic…
1. Flaw logic if that the case he would have oneshotted him back in tenrou. Or acno wouldn’t be stronger than him stop the
2.what hax? please tell me
3.natsu burns magic in general but many ppl doesn’t get oneshot base natsu. Madmole got up when natsu burned him if that zeref that’s a automatic oneshot
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