Fantasy Zeref vs BDSK

[LaGOAT]

If u think that natsu had POF then why tf do u think that anything can beat POF base natsu? lmao

natsu wasn't in base form, he had SF or by ur logic POF, POF natsu would one shot DGs as well

1. ???? are you trolling?? zeref never tried to fight natsu in tenrou lmao

2. sure
death orbs: which basically disintegrate everything (used it on natsu once but natsu countered it with his heat)
death beam: which is an unnamed attack so i just call it "death beam" since it spawned in larcades body and blasted straight out
erasure: he erased larcades body with it, same goes for mard geer
death waves: yes he can control the death waves if he cant then why didn't the spriggans or natsu die from being near zeref?
repent: which is another attack that spawns straight out of your body and takes away your life force like how it took hades's entire life force and its basically instant since all zeref had to do was connect his hands
teleportation: zeref can teleport himself and other stuff, basically like territory (he teleported the book of END to his arms) so if anyone comes near him then he can just teleport them away so they cant touch him
Decay: An unnamed attack so i just called it decay, zeref used it on the book of END and turned it to rocks, it ignores distance so zeref can just teleport himself far away and then snap his fingers and the BDSK are turned to stone. 0:39 Mind/Body Hax: basically when he was crushing makarov in his purple like ball, nothing was happening to makarovs body so im just assuming that zeref was affecting the mind or body and causing massive damage to it
Immobilization: zeref used to stop rustyrose's or kains bodies to stop moving when he killed hades
Blood Manip: Not sure about a good name for this ability so i just named it blood manip but he basically used it to trap natsu and natsu slowly began bleeding so its another durability attack i guess, none of the BDSK can counter it since natsu only broke threw it because of his heat 16:00 and i call it blood manip because zeref used natsus blood to hold him, yeah none of the BDSK countering this
disintegration: he disintegrated natsus sword to dust, he will just do that to the rest of the BDSK
Law: He thought mavis it so he can use it, all he needs to do is clap his hands and the BDSK are dead lol
Zeref should also have every curse of tartaros since he basically gave them those abilities, including stuff like max pain,macro,soul steal etc.

anyways sorry for the long response, was scrolling threw YT to look for zerefs hax

3. natsu wasn't serious on madmole like he was against zeref

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OT: zeref one shots both rounds

U don’t get it natsu can use pof in base DF LFD he used it in base form natsu which is pathetic for zeref no villain in FT was beaten by base form natsu like zeref especially he if he supposed to the “most powerful villain”

1. No I’m saying ur logic is flawed natsu isn’t his Kryptonite or else tenrou natsu could have beat zeref.

2.death orbs dodge by ultear and got defeated by her. Pathetic…

death beam- like I said Killed an injured/not willing to fight lacade that’s impressive to u? Lol pathetic

Death waves- can’t use at will plus natsu elfman and evergreen tanked it again laughable.

Repent- he killed an injured/not willing to fight hades once again that impressive to u? Smh this is what he does best kill people when they ain’t fighting/injured

Body/mind hax-I don’t what ur talking about.

teleportaion-when has ever teleported show me prove.

Immobilization- i don’t recall making rustyrose and kain not move show me the proof

decay-only work on his books of demons he created not actually humans/mage stop the cap man

Blood manip- Alvarez df natsu is weaker than BSDK and don’t forget they have DF force to so they can get out of that easily.

law-I guess makarov and laxus and Mavis and hades can onehsot him too cuz they have it too. Suzaku will onehsot the moment he uses law.

head canon assumption u have no proof of that.


3. He was serious in base mode just he didn’t go all out.Zeref in the other hand got oneshotted

 

[Tirl]

@Tirl also question

why tf do you think that FH zeref beats selene but loses to the BDSK????

Depends on my mood xd
But if you want, some time I choose who wins a single fight to KO, some time - who outlasts in the end. Zeref (especially with FH) cant be killed. So in the end, he eventually wins. But he can be KOed. So it depends on battle rules.
Also, 4 BDSK combined > Selene (at least human form, but I think DGs hype is mostly shit, I don't believe them being on Acno lvl)

 

[Vex_Haid]

Depends on my mood xd
But if you want, some time I choose who wins a single fight to KO, some time - who outlasts in the end. Zeref (especially with FH) cant be killed. So in the end, he eventually wins. But he can be KOed. So it depends on battle rules.
Also, 4 BDSK combined > Selene (at least human form, but I think DGs hype is mostly shit, I don't believe them being on Acno lvl)

i agree that they aren't on acno level, and u voted for FH zeref against dragon selene in diabolos vs spriggans... Lol

FH zeref cant be K.O'D. even Base zeref cant since he was still conscious from the injuries that SF natsu dealt to him, only one that can K.O him is acnologia and maybe igneel

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U don’t get it natsu can use pof in base DF LFD he used it in base form natsu which is pathetic for zeref no villain in FT was beaten by base form natsu like zeref especially he if he supposed to the “most powerful villain”

1. No I’m saying ur logic is flawed natsu isn’t his Kryptonite or else tenrou natsu could have beat zeref.

2.death orbs dodge by ultear and got defeated by her. Pathetic…

death beam- like I said Killed an injured/not willing to fight lacade that’s impressive to u? Lol pathetic

Death waves- can’t use at will plus natsu elfman and evergreen tanked it again laughable.

Repent- he killed an injured/not willing to fight hades once again that impressive to u? Smh this is what he does best kill people when they ain’t fighting/injured

Body/mind hax-I don’t what ur talking about.

teleportaion-when has ever teleported show me prove.

Immobilization- i don’t recall making rustyrose and kain not move show me the proof

decay-only work on his books of demons he created not actually humans/mage stop the cap man

Blood manip- Alvarez df natsu is weaker than BSDK and don’t forget they have DF force to so they can get out of that easily.

law-I guess makarov and laxus and Mavis and hades can onehsot him too cuz they have it too. Suzaku will onehsot the moment he uses law.

head canon assumption u have no proof of that.


3. He was serious in base mode just he didn’t go all out.Zeref in the other hand got oneshotted

1. Bruh, natsu with igneels power was zerefs kryptonite did you not read what i said?

2. zeref wasn't at full power that time....

yep, it blasted a hole out of larcades body, larcade wasn't even able to get up how will the BDSK be able to get up?

he can use it at will, and LOL they never tanked it, they only dodged it, those death waves were killing aldoron so by ur logic elfman and evergreen>aldoron now?

he KILLED hades you clown, so he uses it to one shot the BDSK end of story

Explained body/mind hax already

when he teleported ENDs book into his hands

can you prove that it only works on his book of demons? he never shown any limits to it the only reason why he didn't use it was because it was to OP, what u want natsu dying from being decayed?

they cant get out of it unless u can show me them having a counter to it ill wait

Makarov and laxus have fairy law which requires prep, hades had grimoire law which also requires prep, mavis can indeed one shot with law since law doesn't requires prep, also why wont laxus,hades or mavis be able to one shot? there are no feats proving that they cant especially mavis since she has infinite MP lol

3. that wasn't base mode...

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Watch a youtube clip of Natsu and Zeref's fight. Note how long Zeref spends fighting base Natsu. Now divide that time into intervals of 5 seconds. That's how many times Suzaku clowns Zeref the way he did Natsu.

The bdsk can conceivably take shifts and beat up Zeref indefinitely lol.

Clown, Zeref was fighting natsu in a fist to fist fight, notice how the moment he used one of his hax natsu wasn't able to get out of it? also going by your logic invel can clown on zeref because he clowned on natsu by freezing him instantly?

really overrating suzaku one shotting base natsu when even invel did that lmao, how are the BDSK gonna get passed zerefs time stop? oh and how are they even gonna beat up FH zeref? he can just rewind all the damage they do to him, he casually trolls them and time stops gg

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Tbh people cant argue that BDSK aren't wanked if 7 ppl think that they can beat FH zeref lol

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Suzaku soloes.

even FH zeref?

 

[Axiomus]

Natsu thawed himself out of Invel's ice in base, and took no damage from it.
Suzaku knocked Natsu out cold, and he needed Wendy to heal him back up.
Not even remotely similar showings.

There was nothing that Zeref threw at Natsu that Natsu couldn't get out of.

BDSK won't exhaust themselves with one attack like Natsu did. Like I said, they can just take turns beating up Zeref around the clock. Zeref can rewind time all he wants.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Natsu thawed himself out of Invel's ice in base, and took no damage from it.
Suzaku knocked Natsu out cold, and he needed Wendy to heal him back up.
Not even remotely similar showings.

There was nothing that Zeref threw at Natsu that Natsu couldn't get out of.

BDSK won't exhaust themselves with one attack like Natsu did. Like I said, they can just take turns beating up Zeref around the clock. Zeref can rewind time all he wants.

Why would invels ice do any damage to natsu? it was freezing him not physically damaging him, not to mention that invel was hurting gray who is immune to ice, thats the same as hurting natsu with fire magic and it took natsu time to burn threw invels magic

man just stop and re-read/re-watch the fight....

natsu wasn't able to get out of zerefs spell without using DF, show me him getting out of in base, he was able to counter it since his fire burns magic, none of the BDSK have anything similar to this

unlike suzaku, FH zeref one shotted DF natsu and actually killed him and needed lucy to rewind time for him, natsu was still alive when wendy wasn't healing him even when they reached the whiteout village he was still alive and wendy wasn't healing him

zeref gets bored from rewinding time and then stops time, he has more MP then them since he has infinite MP, gg

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I honestly find it shocking that some people think that 4 clowns that are gonna be non factors soon in a spin off series can beat an immortal that was the MV of the real series

 

[Axiomus]

Why would invels ice do any damage to natsu? it was freezing him not physically damaging him, not to mention that invel was hurting gray who is immune to ice, thats the same as hurting natsu with fire magic and it took natsu time to burn threw invels magic

man just stop and re-read/re-watch the fight....

natsu wasn't able to get out of zerefs spell without using DF, show me him getting out of in base, he was able to counter it since his fire burns magic, none of the BDSK have anything similar to this

unlike suzaku, FH zeref one shotted DF natsu and actually killed him and needed lucy to rewind time for him, natsu was still alive when wendy wasn't healing him even when they reached the whiteout village he was still alive and wendy wasn't healing him

zeref gets bored from rewinding time and then stops time, he has more MP then them since he has infinite MP, gg

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I honestly find it shocking that some people think that 4 clowns that are gonna be non factors soon in a spin off series can beat an immortal that was the MV of the real series

Gray ended up stomping Invel, and then Natsu fought Gray to a stalemate afterwards. Not that it matters, because Haku just turned Natsu into a doll. Which is flat out better than what Invel did. Natsu can't just burn his magic away.

Natsu got out of that. Since when did I have to prove that Natsu needs to be in base mode? Suzaku is stronger than Alvarez DF Natsu. The only reason current DF Natsu is above Aldoron is because of his new fire.

Unlike Zeref, Suzaku is stronger than Selene's human form. Zeref can rewind time all he wants. His stats are still only around base Natsu's level. The BDSK just take turns beating him up. Take shifts, if they have to.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Gray ended up stomping Invel, and then Natsu fought Gray to a stalemate afterwards. Not that it matters, because Haku just turned Natsu into a doll. Which is flat out better than what Invel did. Natsu can't just burn his magic away.

Natsu got out of that. Since when did I have to prove that Natsu needs to be in base mode? Suzaku is stronger than Alvarez DF Natsu. The only reason current DF Natsu is above Aldoron is because of his new fire.

Unlike Zeref, Suzaku is stronger than Selene's human form. Zeref can rewind time all he wants. His stats are still only around base Natsu's level. The BDSK just take turns beating him up. Take shifts, if they have to.

gray was angered, an angered gray would stomp any BDSK, natsu in his END form fought gray to a stalemate, END would stomp any BDSK as well. natsu wasn't even trying to fight haku meanwhile against invel he was literally sending flames everywhere, how can natsu just burn away from being a doll? lmao what that makes no sense

LOL prove that suzaku is stronger then alvarez DF natsu and prove that suzaku can burn threw zerefs magic, just cause ur stronger doesn't means that u can burn threw other magic but DF natsu isn't weaker then suzaku but by suzaku fanboys headcanon he is

doesn't matter zeref>human selene, FH or not, suzaku isn't ven stronger then human acno, id say that his stats are below base natsus level but that doesn't matter cause even ajeel has better stats then zeref yet he wont stand a chance against him

zeref one shots the black fodder slayer knights, none of ur wank is gonna change facts

 

[Orphan Prince]

Zeref gets stomped, and hilariously at that. If he fought only one then I could be lenient and say he outlasts them (especially in Fairy Heart) but all four at once? That's way too much for anyone not named Acnologia (and full powered DGs in their Dragon Forms) to handle.

Now, if Zeref was handled better and was shown to be the completely OP threat that the legends hyped him up to be, then yeah, he'd take this. But his own feats suggest that he loses badly.

Fairy Heart Zeref just gets wailed on until he stays down, they could just take shifts beating him into the ground.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Zeref gets stomped, and hilariously at that. If he fought only one then I could be lenient and say he outlasts them (especially in Fairy Heart) but all four at once? That's way too much for anyone not named Acnologia (and full powered DGs in their Dragon Forms) to handle.

Now, if Zeref was handled better and was shown to be the completely OP threat that the legends hyped him up to be, then yeah, he'd take this. But his own feats suggest that he loses badly.

Fairy Heart Zeref just gets wailed on until he stays down, they could just take shifts beating him into the ground.

igneel can also beat the BDSK combined even if u wanna wank them above human acno level

by ur logic, weaker spriggans can beat zeref because they had better feats then him? ajeel was playing around with erza who is base natsu tier so can ajeel beat base zeref now? same goes for august, i myself think that august can give base zeref an extreme diff fight or win extreme diff but if we are going by ur logic then august no diffs base zeref since he stomped on jellal who is base natsu tier meanwhile base natsu was on par with base zeref, same goes for FH, are you saying that all the spriggans combined can stomp FH zeref?

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the arguments for the BDSK are just the same as saying that invel or ajeel can beat base zeref lmao

 

[Orphan Prince]

igneel can also beat the BDSK combined even if u wanna wank them above human acno level

I'm not wanking BDSK. I'm going by the statements from the Manga, going by the Manga itself nobody other than Acno, full powered DGs, and Igneel (didn't think I had to name the other obvious Dragon) can beat them four on one, if you ask me, Selene is lying and she could have stomped Suzaku in her Human form, but, until it's proven that's simply headcanon.

I don't think they're above human Acno level and I have been very vocal about my opinions of Dragon Gods being weaker than Acnologia but still in the same tier, mid diff material for him, I've said this many times.

by ur logic, weaker spriggans can beat zeref because they had better feats then him? ajeel was playing around with erza who is base natsu tier so can ajeel beat base zeref now? same goes for august, i myself think that august can give base zeref an extreme diff fight or win extreme diff but if we are going by ur logic then august no diffs base zeref since he stomped on jellal who is base natsu tier meanwhile base natsu was on par with base zeref, same goes for FH, are you saying that all the spriggans combined can stomp FH zeref?

Can you not put words in my mouth? I never said that weaker Spriggans can beat Zeref, in fact, it's quite the opposite, if he used his powers properly and fought seriously and using all of his magic to fight with, then he should stomp nearly any Spriggan solo, but that simply wasn't shown so I'm not using it as feats. We know he's stronger than the Spriggans, and we also know that the BDSK are far stronger than the Spriggans, like I said, Zeref could take one BDSK, two if I'm pushing it, but nobody but high/top tier Dragons can take all four of those monsters as of now.

Spriggans stomp FH Zeref? No way, put up a good fight? Absolutely.

the arguments for the BDSK are just the same as saying that invel or ajeel can beat base zeref lmao

You're seriously comparing the BDSK to Invel and Ajeel? The downplay here is insane. If you truly believe that Invel or Ajeel stand any chance at all against any member of the BDSK then there is zero point in debating with you.

 

[Vex_Haid]

@Orphan Prince

if your going by feats then you are basically saying that invel and ajeel can beat base zeref, since ajeel was playing around with erza while base zeref had trouble against natsu, invel was hurting gray and gray is immune to ice, ur basically saying that they can beat base zeref with feats, actually nvm on second thought yeah you are right they can beat base zeref by feats but if you wanna go by hype then base zeref would stomp the BDSK as well

who can put up a good fight against FH zeref? Spriggans or BDSK? doesn't matters since both teams would get no diffed by FH zeref, by feats he probably takes a beating but wont really feel any pain, but by logic he should be above all of them combined since he has control over time-space

any spriggans can beat suzaku for me, even neinhart feel free to debate me on it but suzaku is overrated, as for the other 3 BDSK? it depends on there feats, haku is probably the only one thats a threat because of his hax

 

[Laxus chan-yo]

How the fight would go

 

[Vex_Haid]

How the fight would go

spriggans jumping on the BDSK so zeref wont have to get his hands dirty

got it

 

[Axiomus]

gray was angered, an angered gray would stomp any BDSK, natsu in his END form fought gray to a stalemate, END would stomp any BDSK as well. natsu wasn't even trying to fight haku meanwhile against invel he was literally sending flames everywhere, how can natsu just burn away from being a doll? lmao what that makes no sense

LOL prove that suzaku is stronger then alvarez DF natsu and prove that suzaku can burn threw zerefs magic, just cause ur stronger doesn't means that u can burn threw other magic but DF natsu isn't weaker then suzaku but by suzaku fanboys headcanon he is

doesn't matter zeref>human selene, FH or not, suzaku isn't ven stronger then human acno, id say that his stats are below base natsus level but that doesn't matter cause even ajeel has better stats then zeref yet he wont stand a chance against him

zeref one shots the black fodder slayer knights, none of ur wank is gonna change facts

Lol did I just read Gray can stomp any BDSK? My dude... Haku turning Natsu into a doll > Invel Freezing Natsu. Natsu can't get out of the former.

Suzaku can cut Selene's magic. That's better than burning Zeref's magic.

Zeref isn't above human Selene. He's not even above Aldoron seed. Did I just read Suzaku is below base Natsu and Ajeel? My dude....

 

[Vex_Haid]

Lol did I just read Gray can stomp any BDSK? My dude... Haku turning Natsu into a doll > Invel Freezing Natsu. Natsu can't get out of the former.

Suzaku can cut Selene's magic. That's better than burning Zeref's magic.

Zeref isn't above human Selene. He's not even above Aldoron seed. Did I just read Suzaku is below base Natsu and Ajeel? My dude....

darkness gray was on par with END so yeah he stomps any BDSK. are u stupid? obviously natsu cant get out from being a doll, it will just burn him however fire is a counter for ice thats how he was able to get out of invels ice, show me haku turning natsus attacks into dolls and another thing, natsu wasn't fighting back against haku

LOL HOWS CUTTING SELENES MAGIC BETTER THAN NATSU BURNING ZEREFS MAGIC? man dont tell me that i just read that

he is above human selene, zeref with FH has infinite magic power, show me selene or aldoron having infinite magic power ill wait

suzaku is way below base natsu unless i see proof he isn't, a FP base natsu would curb suzaku, he tanked attacks from god seed aldoron. ajeel would stomp suzaku as well, he was playing around with a healthy erza while suzaku failed to blitz erza

anyways ill just wait untilu show me human selene or godseed aldoron (infact show me there dragon forms) having more magic power then FH zeref

 

[Axiomus]

darkness gray was on par with END so yeah he stomps any BDSK. are u stupid? obviously natsu cant get out from being a doll, it will just burn him however fire is a counter for ice thats how he was able to get out of invels ice, show me haku turning natsus attacks into dolls and another thing, natsu wasn't fighting back against haku

LOL HOWS CUTTING SELENES MAGIC BETTER THAN NATSU BURNING ZEREFS MAGIC? man dont tell me that i just read that

he is above human selene, zeref with FH has infinite magic power, show me selene or aldoron having infinite magic power ill wait

suzaku is way below base natsu unless i see proof he isn't, a FP base natsu would curb suzaku, he tanked attacks from god seed aldoron. ajeel would stomp suzaku as well, he was playing around with a healthy erza while suzaku failed to blitz erza

anyways ill just wait untilu show me human selene or godseed aldoron (infact show me there dragon forms) having more magic power then FH zeref

Lol, END isn't anywhere close to Suzaku.

So all I'm reading here is that Haku can take out Natsu, but Invel can't.

Cuz Selene is stronger than Zeref.

Dude....Suzaku literally oneshotted base Natsu.

Ajeel stomps Suzaku? Lmao, aight, I'm done.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Lol, END isn't anywhere close to Suzaku.

So all I'm reading here is that Haku can take out Natsu, but Invel can't.

Cuz Selene is stronger than Zeref.

Dude....Suzaku literally oneshotted base Natsu.

Ajeel stomps Suzaku? Lmao, aight, I'm done.

true cause hes stronger then suzaku

show me proof of selene being stronger then zeref ill wait, FH zeref has infinite magic power even acnologia didn't have that much magic, he was protected due to magic immunity

so? natsu wasn't even at full power and thats just mashima hyping up a villain

he does, any spriggan can beat suzaku with stats and hax

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Black Fodder Slayer Knights and Fodderbolos after fighting zeref

this new chapter proves it all, cry

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Kirin = Strongest BDSK = Gildarts<God Serena<<<dimaria<=Larcade<<<<<<<<<<<<Base Zeref<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<FH zeref

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I came back to this thread cause i just wanna say this

Any argument that BDSK had for K.Oing base zeref is now gone, mavis regen'd from soul destruction and zeref has the same immortality as her, how can u K.O someone that doesnt needs a soul to operate?

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another L kids, suzaku is not soloing, no one is

Base Zeref>=100% irene>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0% irene>>>haku

Where are all the DDSK wankers?? Lmaoo

 

[FireIce]

Zeref gets stomped in the first round. Only reason he doesn't die is due to his immortality. To be frank, I have Suzaku winning this by himself.

He wins round 2 but only because he can outlast the Knights. He has regeneration and infinite magic power.

 

[Darklord#10]

No comments. The power levels of Alvarez and the hundred years quest have no single correlation. I don't know who's stronger

 

[Goku solos]

Suzaku solos