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Zeref takes this
I doubt it as he can take on a DG even when nerfed while in base.Base Zeref gets killed by the Suzaku-Kirin-Misaki combination. FH Zeref wins but in an extreme diff.
The seed is only as powerful as what the person they target that they see as powerful. Zeref is crazy as he contradicts himself a lot. That was when he values life when he is nerfed, his base power scales to the Phoenix which can destroy the world.Lol he never faced a DG it was a fake Zeref seed version. Base Zeref sees himself as fodder without Fairy Heart proof Ultear trampled him to Tenro. If he falls unconscious due to the Arc of Time, no way he can tank Blue Dimension+Suzaku Sword+Kirin Lightning he gets rolfstomps.


Why don't they have a chance against him?I don't know if it's Zeref who is underestimated or if the BDSK are overestimated to think they have a chance against him.
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Yeah absolute failure even suzaku was a failure but regardless suzaku is the only saving grace the slayer knights have against anybody. I still think base zeref folds them quite easilyBDSK cannot be overrated they were a failure. But Mashima pissed off Zeref making him lose to Natsu who is seemingly weaker than Gildarts Erza Laxus by his owns statements. But I still believe that FH Zeref solos BDSK regardless.
Unfortunately not... Mashima shitted so much on Zeref by making him lose against UltearI still think base zeref folds them quite easily
#MakeZerefGreatAgain
I still think base zeref folds them quite easily
Like I said the only reason I think zeref wins is because...... that's how mashima wrote it. If we're going by feats suzaku slaps but this is fairy tail power scaling, not everything is straightforwardAny feats?
That was anekhshram curse. Zeref can't control itZeref would win because his nerfed power could damage and even threaten a DG in his dragon form.
Zeref would win because his nerfed power could damage and even threaten a DG in his dragon form.
The strongest among them are only on the level of Gildarts, and even then, we don't know if we're talking about a 100% Gildarts.Why don't they have a chance against him?
Yeah I agree with you. We don't even know if they're talking about x793 gildarts or x792 gildartsThe strongest among them are only on the level of Gildarts, and even then, we don't know if we're talking about a 100% Gildarts.
Considering that August, who is weaker than Zeref, had no trouble defeating Gildarts and surpassed him in every way.
His power was not in control by Aldoron, and it was nerfed. It is still nerfed even then as Zeref said that is all his power can do at the time.Again this argument of "Zeref damaged a DG" when:
- It was a false Zeref controlled by a weakened Aldoron.
- Natsu asked him to love him like a brother to activate his curse
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Zeref can’t control it until he doesn’t care about life, then he can utilize it to it’s full capacity.That was anekhshram curse. Zeref can't control it
I don't even understand what you're saying lol. Sometimes the height you reach to defend your s12 and zeref surprises meZeref can’t control it until he doesn’t care about life, then he can utilize it to it’s full capacity