Team Zeref vs Crime Sorciere

[Seven777]

Crime Sorciere decide to fulfill their purpose and take on Zeref, can they beat him?

Restrictions: Fairy Heart, K.O/immobilization is all thats needed for a win.

 

[Arjuna]

I will still give it to Zeref with the highest possible degree of difficulty.

Sensei has always made the leader of the villain group the strongest-Zero,Hades,Mard,Arlock through Ikusa summoning.So there is no reason why he will make an exception only with Zeref.

 

[Am Shegar]

CS will take it. Zeref is strong but Jellal is strong too. And if 1 vs 1 is Zerefs win, 1 vs all CS is different story. I have faith in Cobra and Midnight. And we must remember Starry Sky ark IS canon now. Remember how Midnight blocked combined FT attack?? How it isn't top tier feat.

 

[Ilikeyou]

Didn't August fodderized the entire group?

 

[Seven777]

Didn't August fodderized the entire group?

Everyone except Meredy and Angel, not that they'd make a difference

 

[Xaos sama]

zeref was pretty underwhelming against natsu tbh, we didn't get to see anything from him. By feats CS takes it.
with hype, i'd say zeref will win.

Didn't August fodderized the entire group?

so?

 

[Jko]

Zeref takes it by hype and feats. Don't overplay CS to a point they aren't at. Those guys are getting curbed.

 

[Nemispelled]

I'll vote Crime Sorciere in this match.

They should have more than enough power to defeat regular old Zeref, especially since his FH version lost to an exhausted Natsu.

Plus, they only have to knock Zeref out, right?

Meredy can just link Jellal and Zeref together (since Jellal has immense hatred for Zeref), then Jellal can either suicide or let the rest of CS knock him out.

Meredy was able to link herself to Gray on Tenrou since she hated him emotionally. So I don't see why she cannot do the same for Jellal and Zeref.

This could literally be a oneshot, if they're willing to attack their own teammate in order to win.

Either way, my opinion stays the same. Crime Sorciere beats Zeref.

 

[Jko]

@Nemispelled how is weak ass sensory link killing the Zeref? Not even burning through time can kill him and you think something as weak as sense link can? Zeref is immortal and even Acno can't kill him yet you think fodder like Meredy can?

What's stopping Zeref from insta-shotting this team? He easily has the DC to beat their combined efforts let alone insta killing them with his hax.

CS gets murder stomped harder than the butt whooping they received from Zeref's son.

 

[Nemispelled]

@Nemispelled how is weak ass sensory link killing the Zeref? Not even burning through time can kill him and you think something as weak as sense link can? Zeref is immortal and even Acno can't kill him yet you think fodder like Meredy can?

What's stopping Zeref from insta-shotting this team? He easily has the DC to beat their combined efforts let alone insta killing them with his hax.

CS gets murder stomped harder than the butt whooping they received from Zeref's son.

I don't how see sensory link being weak has anything to do with this? The way it works is that if one person has an emotional attachment to another person, the link can be applied.

This has nothing to do with power. You can link a weak fodder to a strong mage.

There was never a restriction on Meredy's sensory link magic that has to do with a power gap. There's canon evidence to support this:

- Meredy linked herself with Gray in Tenrou
- Meredy linked herself with Jellal in GMG


And Zeref isn't going to insta-shot anybody here... He couldn't even put down an exhausted Natsu while having unlimited magic power and immortality.

Jellal, Cobra, Midnight, and Hoteye would stomp him alone.

But again, that doesn't matter because Meredy can link Jellal and Zeref together. It's a literal oneshot for Crime Sorciere if they're willing to knock Jellal out, for the sake of this match.

 

[Arjuna]

I think we are forgetting that Zeref has Ankhseram Death Wave which is quite dangerous.And not everyone has Natsu's flame to burn it.And even the aura from it can knock out Meldy and Juvia.So actual wave can instantly kill Richard,Solano,Meldy.Erik is tricky because of his fight with Acnologia may change many things.

 

[Jko]

I don't how see sensory link being weak has anything to do with this? The way it works is that if one person has an emotional attachment to another person, the link can be applied.

This has nothing to do with power. You can link a weak fodder to a strong mage.

There was never a restriction on Meredy's sensory link magic that has to do with a power gap. There's canon evidence to support this:

- Meredy linked herself with Gray in Tenrou
- Meredy linked herself with Jellal in GMG


And Zeref isn't going to insta-shot anybody here... He couldn't even put down an exhausted Natsu while having unlimited magic power and immortality.

Jellal, Cobra, Midnight, and Hoteye would stomp him alone.

But again, that doesn't matter because Meredy can link Jellal and Zeref together. It's a literal oneshot for Crime Sorciere if they're willing to knock Jellal out, for the sake of this match.

Dude sensory link is weak magic. It will not doing anything to Zeref. Zeref cannot die therefore the since technique won't work in the first place.

KOing Jellal won't KO Zeref. Zeref will only feel pain from Jellal and that's it. He would just break the spell easily in the first place as well.

Natsu got fully revived by Lucy so he wasn't exhausted and secondly Savage Flame Natsu would rekt CS easily. They wouldn't even beat IgNatsu let alone DF Natsu. They would be vaporized just being near his flames. Don't compare Natsu who can burn through the fabric of time, and death to Jellal who isn't even on upper S12 and fodder like OS and Meredy.

Just bcs Natsu did it does not mean everyone in the booneys can. Natsu is the MC and currently stand on the podium of top tier in the verse.

Zeref rekts them in sheer power alone. His hax isn't even needed.

 

[Takuan]

I think we are forgetting that Zeref has Ankhseram Death Wave which is quite dangerous.And not everyone has Natsu's flame to burn it.And even the aura from it can knock out Meldy and Juvia.So actual wave can instantly kill Richard,Solano,Meldy.Erik is tricky because of his fight with Acnologia may change many things.

I won't talk too much about the match-up, but i just wanted to quote you on this.

The deat wave you're talking about is pure garbage.
The only time he's shown that was on Tenrou, and it was blocked by Ultear's orb, and was dodged by Natsu Ellfman and Evergeen by just getting on the ground. Also, this attack is only available when he's in his "asleep" state, aka the state where he got beat by Tenrou Ultear.
From all of the attacks Zeref has shown, this one is the weakest and is definitely not getting anything done.

 

[Arjuna]

I won't talk too much about the match-up, but i just wanted to quote you on this.

The deat wave you're talking about is pure garbage.
The only time he's shown that was on Tenrou, and it was blocked by Ultear's orb, and was dodged by Natsu Ellfman and Evergeen by just getting on the ground. Also, this attack is only available when he's in his "asleep" state, aka the state where he got beat by Tenrou Ultear.
From all of the attacks Zeref has shown, this one is the weakest and is definitely not getting anything done.

He used Attacks to injure Igneel powered Natsu.That is more than enough to take them down.

And don't forget Zeref was throwing Death Waves unconsciously in Tenrou.That's why they managed to dodge easily.If he uses tgese same wave consciously like he did with Hades then it's deadly.And as it is Meldy was knocked out by the effect of the death Wave in his sleeping state..And as it is there is no evidence that Meldy improved much seeing her performance against Historia Zancrow.

 

[Demon Hunter]

just gonna post it here and it will give you a hint about my vote

Spoiler

 

[Takuan]

He used Attacks to injure Igneel powered Natsu.That is more than enough to take them down.

And don't forget Zeref was throwing Death Waves unconsciously in Tenrou.That's why they managed to dodge easily.If he uses tgese same wave consciously like he did with Hades then it's deadly.And as it is Meldy was knocked out by the effect of the death Wave in his sleeping state..And as it is there is no evidence that Meldy improved much seeing her performance against Historia Zancrow.

I thought you were talking about the Death Waves he was throwing unconsciously on Tenrou. I don't remember any other instances where he used it.
I wasn't talking about the pillar spell he used against Hades for instance, because i don't even know if that's coming from Anksheram curse or not. Same for all of his attacks in Alvarez arc.

 

[Arjuna]

I thought you were talking about the Death Waves he was throwing unconsciously on Tenrou. I don't remember any other instances where he used it.
I wasn't talking about the pillar spell he used against Hades for instance, because i don't even know if that's coming from Anksheram curse or not. Same for all of his attacks in Alvarez arc.

Well Taku every attack of his is from Ankhseram Curse.His strength is also from that curse.

 

[Takuan]

Well Taku every attack of his is from Ankhseram Curse.His strength is also from that curse.

Really? I don't think this has been stated but if you say so. But then why didyou say "let's not forget he uses Anksheram magic"? Shouldn't make a difference if every one of his atatcks is from the curse. It's like saying "lets not forget Zeref can use magic"

Anyway, i misunderstood you, as i was uhder the asumption that you were tzalking about the Death Waves he used unconsciously. These waves wont do any harm, that was my main point.

 

[Arjuna]

Really? I don't think this has been stated but if you say so. But then why didyou say "let's not forget he uses Anksheram magic"? Shouldn't make a difference if every one of his atatcks is from the curse. It's like saying "lets not forget Zeref can use magic"

Anyway, i misunderstood you, as i was uhder the asumption that you were tzalking about the Death Waves he used unconsciously. These waves wont do any harm, that was my main point.

Well every black spells of Zeref are from his curse-like Death Wave,pillar,predation.But in addition he knows many magics like Enchantment,Fire Magic.

 

[M3J]

Zeref. Admittedly, I think it's mainly because he can heal and tank most attacks.