Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Grandmaster Woro]

You cant tell when people here are joking.

nah i know hes joking lol, but i just want to point that out

 

[afromarco005]

Btw What do you think hides in zoro's left eye? He was trained with Hawk eyes Mihawk it can not be a coincidence.

Imo he has some kind of concentrated aura that overwhelms his opponents like he did with monet but a bit different

 

[nik87]

Btw What do you think hides in zoro's left eye? He was trained with Hawk eyes Mihawk it can not be a coincidence.
Imo he has some kind of concentrated aura that overwhelms his opponents like he did with monet but a bit different

We still dont know if Mihawk's eyes are anything special and if they are unique to him or it can be attained through training.
Maybe Zoro's eye will be the same allowing incredible concentration and focus on details and tracking high-speed movements. Maybe it will be advanced CoO or it might turn out to have something to do with CoC or it eventually has something to do with cursed swords and Asura to keep the demonic aura locked or in check...

On the other hand, i thought about a scene from Little Garden. When Zoro, Nami and Vivi were trapped and being turned into wax figures, Zoro wanted to cut his feet off to escape it and he was doing it but they were freed before he could completely cut them off. I wonder if that is foreshadowing of Zoro losing his legs and going Shiki style, turning into Gotoryu(5-sword) style. That would mean in Asura mode he would have 15 swords, try to defend against that.

 

[M3J]

Btw What do you think hides in zoro's left eye? He was trained with Hawk eyes Mihawk it can not be a coincidence.

Imo he has some kind of concentrated aura that overwhelms his opponents like he did with monet but a bit different

Sharingan.

Could have either lost an eye or is using the eyepatch for training

 

[Pirate Queen]

I have no doubt his eye is closed as some kind of limit breaker

Kinda like Kenpachi from bleach

Opening both eyes is going to be like his own personal Gear 4, except it will just heighten his reflexes and increase in CoO, not strength

 

[hokageji]

I have no doubt his eye is closed as some kind of limit breaker

Perhaps its something to do with Haki......
Mythbusters did an episode of Pirate and their eyepatches... Eyepatches were used so that eye can see better in the dark.

See better in one piece world = observation haki...

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Or i should have used the Kakashi example, but dont wanna encourage Zoro has sharingan theory.

 

[slavkovski]

Slashing vs Blunt damage

Blunt damage is lasting, core, damage where as slashing or piercing damage is where you get far more immediate damage.


To even know if Big Mom is susceptible to either damage you would have to know the basis of her invulnerability.

This is physics.

Against Big Mom(from the information we recieved about her) Blunt damage be far more effective. You can cause internal damage, where as her skin is impenetrable from the outside. The proof of this is that Big Mom can be pushed around with enough force and it was implied by Perospero that Big Mom IS susceptible to poison.

Slashing wouldn't work against Big Mom, but force can. So Zoro would not have been able to cause more damage with slashing. If any damage at all. UNLESS, Zoro attacks Big Mom in her state of distraught (Like Luffy he would have to bypass BM's destructive Scream)

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Blunt force causes internal damage and the added effect of internal, Slashing MUST do external before moving internally. Since Big Mom is immune to external damage but susceptible to internal(poisoning), She's more likely to be weak to blunt.

Gear 4th might not be enough but a punch from Kaido? Or a King Kong Punch.

Physics says Blunt > Slashing, in the case of Big Mom

This is ONLY 100% BM, not starving and emaciated BM...

So.. if your a character ini one piece that fairly strong.. i mean maybe in the level of bellamy strong.. do you prefer fight zoro.. a swordman that can and will cut your limb.. or fight luffy.. a brawler that could and will punch you in the head and make you pass out?

 

[Pirate Queen]

So.. if your a character ini one piece that fairly strong.. i mean maybe in the level of bellamy strong.. do you prefer fight zoro.. a swordman that can and will cut your limb.. or fight luffy.. a brawler that could and will punch you in the head and make you pass out?

I'm saying your going to get fucking up either way, just that the damage you incur will be distributed differently. A Gear 4 King Kong Gun (which destroyed a city) would kill Bellamy just as quickly as him being sliced in half. No one outside of top tier fighters can survive a King Kong Gun.

I'm just trying to explain physics.

Are you asking me what will kill a real life human faster? a sword or a fist? Obviously a sword. That's not the arguement tho. The arguement is what would more effectively deal damage to a person immune to external damage.

Don't get my explaination twisted tho. We aren't talking about real life human. In this manga, human are far more resilient to slicing/blunt force damage.


So let me ask you lol. If you were going to die. Would you want to be killed by a city destroying punch or getting sliced in half? I'm sure the answer is... Doesnt matter, I'm dying either way.

But again, this isnt the arguement

 

[afromarco005]

I have no doubt his eye is closed as some kind of limit breaker

Kinda like Kenpachi from bleach

Opening both eyes is going to be like his own personal Gear 4, except it will just heighten his reflexes and increase in CoO, not strength

Basically Ultra instinct Zoro. Looking forwards to that

 

[King Moe]

Oda could troll and just be a regular eye like Rayleigh's which probably me more like that .

Kinda want see improvement on his swordsmanship than his body honestly.

 

[nik87]

It could be just a regular eye and he willingly keeps it closed to train his observation all the time but then the scar wouldnt make sense. He could fool us with an eye patch if that was the reason behind it. Question is, how did he get that scar and for what reason.

 

[King Moe]

It could be just a regular eye and he willingly keeps it closed to train his observation all the time but then the scar wouldnt make sense. He could fool us with an eye patch if that was the reason behind it. Question is, how did he get that scar and for what reason.

Probably from Giant Baboon gave it to him or something. Well if comparing to Rayleigh, his eye isn't special so the same can be for Zoro. Though could be for training as well, but think expecting too much to think its a Sharingan under there lol. This ain't Naruto XD.

 

[nik87]

to think its a Sharingan under there lol. This ain't Naruto XD.

I think whoever expects a sharingan is unrealistic, even for a fiction world as it doesnt fit into OP, however it may turn out to be some kind of power-up but nothing close to a sharingan.

 

[M3J]

I'd love if Zoro's eye was revealed to just be an eye Zoro damaged because he fucked up :

 

[Pirate Queen]

I'd love if Zoro's eye was revealed to just be an eye Zoro damaged because he fucked up :

lol the plot twist of the closed eye..... THERE WAS NO F'KING PLOT TWIST!!!!!

 

[M3J]

lol the plot twist of the closed eye..... THERE WAS NO F'KING PLOT TWIST!!!!!

Yep, and it'd be a classic OP gag

 

[Pirate Queen]

Yep, and it'd be a classic OP gag

Here's the thing tho... If Zoro's eye is legit damaged and this manga doesn't surprise us with Mihawk being dethroned as the WSS, we have a massive issue.

If Zoro fights Mihawk for the WSS position, Mihawk is a damned hypocrite.

Zoro losing an eye is a handicap anyway you look at it. If Mihawk is willing to fight a disabled Zoro but not a "disabled" Shanks... Mihawk is a hypocrite for not willing to keep up his rivalry with Shanks because he lose an arm.

For a top class swordsman the loss of an eye or arm is equally debilitating. Loss of an eye effects reaction time and the loss of an arm effects versatility of swordplay.

For Mihawk's sake I hope Zoro can still use that eye...

 

[King Moe]

Here's the thing tho... If Zoro's eye is legit damaged and this manga doesn't surprise us with Mihawk being dethroned as the WSS, we have a massive issue.

If Zoro fights Mihawk for the WSS position, Mihawk is a damned hypocrite.

Zoro losing an eye is a handicap anyway you look at it. If Mihawk is willing to fight a disabled Zoro but not a "disabled" Shanks... Mihawk is a hypocrite for not willing to keep up his rivalry with Shanks because he lose an arm.

For a top class swordsman the loss of an eye or arm is equally debilitating. Loss of an eye effects reaction time and the loss of an arm effects versatility of swordplay.

For Mihawk's sake I hope Zoro can still use that eye...

Pretty sure he can. Though I don't think it has powers behind it as it's like Rayleigh with his scarred eye.

 

[M3J]

Here's the thing tho... If Zoro's eye is legit damaged and this manga doesn't surprise us with Mihawk being dethroned as the WSS, we have a massive issue.

If Zoro fights Mihawk for the WSS position, Mihawk is a damned hypocrite.

Zoro losing an eye is a handicap anyway you look at it. If Mihawk is willing to fight a disabled Zoro but not a "disabled" Shanks... Mihawk is a hypocrite for not willing to keep up his rivalry with Shanks because he lose an arm.

For a top class swordsman the loss of an eye or arm is equally debilitating. Loss of an eye effects reaction time and the loss of an arm effects versatility of swordplay.

For Mihawk's sake I hope Zoro can still use that eye...

Losing an eye is different from losing an arm though, and if Zoro beats Mihawk despite being able to see with one eye, that would probably elevate him to an even higher standing than Mihawk ever was, and maybe even higher than Shanks.

 

[hokageji]

If Mihawk is willing to fight a disabled Zoro but not a "disabled" Shanks... Mihawk is a hypocrite for not willing to keep up his rivalry with Shanks because he lose an arm.

Unless Shanks lost his better hand.
https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-1/chapter/5090?action=read

THe official shows him holding it in his left hand, which he lost... but thats only in this page...