Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Deleted member 169696]

Talking about all together or separate each respectively?

I think people understood or misunderstood you so (depending on what you meant) that Sanji alone will get 5000 men.

 

[Pirate Queen]

I think people understood or misunderstood you so (depending on what you meant) that Sanji alone will get 5000 men.

Moe-kun, 5000 is a very specific number of possible allies as stated by Hyo if Luffy can gather the 5 heads of Yakuza together.

Any more that Zoro and Sanji gather would not be as numerous as the amount of allies that Luffy can potentially gather.

Usually, allies gather because of Luffy, not because of Sanji or Zoro.

Even more upsetting because Zoro told Luffy gathering the samurai would be his job in Wano and he hasn't gathered a single Samurai to Luffy's cause.

 

[Brandish μ]

Even more upsetting because Zoro told Luffy gathering the samurai would be his job in Wano and he hasn't gathered a single Samurai to Luffy's cause

I keep wondering about this, because this is a legit fail on Zoro's part (not that he had to unite them - but he said it, and he's not one to speak out for no reason).

Did he underestimate the Wano situation perhaps?

Well, it's not something that bugs me, because I would much rather see him unite the boys than for Luffy to show up and it's sorted. Gives me more Zoro fanboy material.

 

[nik87]

I think all they need is to witness grandmaster fight and they will all fanboy him like we do. That's what rounding up the samurai of Wano means.

 

[M3J]

Luffy is already in position to gather 5000 allies from the prison.

Any Samurai Zoro would gather would be minimal. He could help provide weapons for those 5000 tho.

Why can't Zoro can't gather a lot of samurai as well?

 

[Pirate Queen]

Why can't Zoro can't gather a lot of samurai as well?

All samurai in sufficient numbers has already been established to have been rounded up and imprisoned in Udon. Any samurai who disagreed with Kaido or Orochi. The army is in Udon. That's already established by Hyo.

If Zoro appeared with an army of 5000 random Samurai, without sufficient hints... would be a far bigger asspull than anything in this arc.

I wish it was Zoro gathering the Samurai, but it looks like that won't be the case.

 

[nik87]

All samurai in sufficient numbers has already been established to have been rounded up and imprisoned in Udon. Any samurai who disagreed with Kaido or Orochi. The army is in Udon. That's already established by Hyo.

If Zoro appeared with an army of 5000 random Samurai, without sufficient hints... would be a far bigger asspull than anything in this arc.

I wish it was Zoro gathering the Samurai, but it looks like that won't be the case.

There seems to be a significant amount of supporters who are still free judging by amount of captured in Rasetsu district but nowhere close to 5k and not sure if all of them are samurai.
Zoro's plotline needs to go back to Gyukimaru to secure the weapons for the rebellion and he needs to fight some notable enemy so that samurai can get impressed by his performance.

 

[afromarco005]

I was expecting zoro to do something cool during yasu's zxecution and earn the respect of the masses and lots of followers but it seems like Oda didn't follow this path.

It's a shame... and the event was even broadcasted in the entire country.

The way I see it Zoro's role during this arc will be reduced to waiting on the sidelines and fighting whoever ends up as his opponent at the end of the arc as usual. I wish Oda did more with him but Luffy has to be the main focus at all times

 

[Pirate Queen]

There seems to be a significant amount of supporters who are still free judging by amount of captured in Rasetsu district but nowhere close to 5k and not sure if all of them are samurai.
Zoro's plotline needs to go back to Gyukimaru to secure the weapons for the rebellion and he needs to fight some notable enemy so that samurai can get impressed by his performance.

I'm of the same opinion. No arguement from me. Like I said in my original post, all Samurai in sufficient numbers are in Udon. The only reason I'm throwing around 5000 is because the alliance thought it was a stretch to get even 500 allies at first.

Boom, Luffy finds 5000! Thanks to Hyo

The best the remaining alliance can do now is rally a couple hundred? more. And as it pertains to Zoro, samurai outside of Udon are being rallied by the entire alliance, not just Zoro alone.

My issue is that Zoro should be at the forefront of gathering Samurai, because he promised Luffy, and at most he is gunna do is convince the bridge bandit to supply the alliance weapons.

We are definitely of the same opinion with Zoro impressing Wano with his swordsman skills

 

[M3J]

All samurai in sufficient numbers has already been established to have been rounded up and imprisoned in Udon. Any samurai who disagreed with Kaido or Orochi. The army is in Udon. That's already established by Hyo.

If Zoro appeared with an army of 5000 random Samurai, without sufficient hints... would be a far bigger asspull than anything in this arc.

I wish it was Zoro gathering the Samurai, but it looks like that won't be the case.

ANd how long has Hyo been in jail for? There is a possibility that Zoro can round up tons of samurai too, unless all samurai against Orochi were apprehended.

 

[Pirate Queen]

ANd how long has Hyo been in jail for? There is a possibility that Zoro can round up tons of samurai too, unless all samurai against Orochi were apprehended.

Not an army of 5000

There hasn't been a single attempt by Zoro to gather a single Samurai, unlike the other alliance members.

He's been doing his own thing.

 

[M3J]

The Straw Hats have the ability to gather people just by doing their own thing though. Luffy didn't ask the Whitebeard crew to help him stay alive, but they were more than happy to do just that, before and after Ace was saved and killed. Luffy didn't want the gladiators helping him, but they were more than happy to do so. The Straw Hats, especially Luffy, are fearsome partly because of this ability, and I can see Zoro's toughness and swordsman credo helping him get more samurai or at least more people to the Alliance's side, at least without meaning to.

 

[Pirate Queen]

The Straw Hats have the ability to gather people just by doing their own thing though. Luffy didn't ask the Whitebeard crew to help him stay alive, but they were more than happy to do just that, before and after Ace was saved and killed. Luffy didn't want the gladiators helping him, but they were more than happy to do so. The Straw Hats, especially Luffy, are fearsome partly because of this ability, and I can see Zoro's toughness and swordsman credo helping him get more samurai or at least more people to the Alliance's side, at least without meaning to.

Your not getting my complaint.

Zoro promised Luffy he was going to gather the Samurai, we get to Wano and he has been doing nothing to further Luffy's cause and he sure as hell isnt gathering Samurai.

That's the issue I have. All the other SH's are making attempts to gather allies EXCEPT the one guy who made it his job to do so.

 

[M3J]

Oh.

But has he had a chance to? Luffy's in prison with hundreds of samurai who are against Orochi and Kaidou, but I don't remember how the others are making attempts?

 

[nik87]

Wanted! Magistrate killer, the ronin Zorojuro.

 

[Brandish μ]

I think all they need is to witness grandmaster fight and they will all fanboy him like we do. That's what rounding up the samurai of Wano means.

You didn't fanboy enough.

He'll flex conquerors haki and they'll all bow to him like we do

 

[nik87]

You didn't fanboy enough.

He'll flex conquerors haki and they'll all bow to him like we do

I shall do better next time, I promise.

 

[King Moe]

Who bets Zoro likely to get capture due to his condition or else gonna have another struggle with Ninjas or Kyoshiro again that backfired on him more? He has Hiyori on him so he can't fight as he likes while protecting someone along he with pushing his body after getting hurt.

Oda really showing 'highlight' of Zoro lately for sure.

 

[nik87]

Who bets Zoro likely to get capture due to his condition or else gonna have another struggle with Ninjas or Kyoshiro again that backfired on him more? He has Hiyori on him so he can't fight as he likes while protecting someone along he with pushing his body after getting hurt.

Oda really showing 'highlight' of Zoro lately for sure.

Moe-kun, you are trying too hard to bait people. You need better execution of it, people shouldn't notice it so easily until it's too late.
Watch and learn from master @Sachsenhesse

 

[King Moe]

Who's baiting? We watching same manga, right? Zoro's performance hasn't been his best so why think he doing greatest thing when last time we saw him he was struggling with Kyoshiro and trying to escape with Hiyori. Got know difference of baiting and people speaking truth. There is even a thread he is likely to get captured out of this chaos more someone made. Just saying, not baiting anyone.