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Is It a Requirement for Zoro to have Conqueror's Haki?


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No. Brazillians use random letters to represent a laugh.

For example, where most of the world would type "hahahahaha", a Brazillian would type "mweiywqçlxvbsxoiw" or any variation of that
To be honest, in Brazil we have 4 ways to show your laugh: “kkkkkk”, “hahahahaha”, “hdianahdiandbxjns” and “rsrs” 😅

You can choose the one you like the most
 

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zoro will open his eye to reveal sharingan....

Jk... but i've said this before, it could be for better sight.

pirates wore eyepatches to see better in the dark... This was also tested in mythbusters and proven to be true...

So Zoro closing his eye is to improve his vision which post time skip translate to better observation haki.
 

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zoro will open his eye to reveal sharingan....

Jk... but i've said this before, it could be for better sight.

pirates wore eyepatches to see better in the dark... This was also tested in mythbusters and proven to be true...

So Zoro closing his eye is to improve his vision which post time skip translate to better observation haki.
Zoro did have somewhat sharper eye after post timeskip, we saw this at dressrosa
 

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How is that not chalked up to him having CoO? Whereas before he didnt
Probably, i cant say for sure
Oda is vague in terms of zoros ability
Breath of all things is like CoA
Wild beast stare is like CoC
And now zoro has his sharp eye to detect dwarf, just like CoO

But oda doesnt really confirm it, although based on what we know about haki, probably its already implied
 

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Probably, i cant say for sure
Oda is vague in terms of zoros ability
Breath of all things is like CoA
Wild beast stare is like CoC
And now zoro has his sharp eye to detect dwarf, just like CoO

But oda doesnt really confirm it, although based on what we know about haki, probably its already implied
Oda just retconned CP9 having haki pre timeskip so I have no doubt Oda could retcon Zoro's already established powera
 

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Oda just retconned CP9 having haki pre timeskip so I have no doubt Oda could retcon Zoro's already established powera
wait what? When did that happen?
 

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wait what? When did that happen?
Just recently. I'm sorry I dont have the link, but it came out during last Volume of Vivre Card Corrections...

For sure Rob Lucci had Haki pre-timeskip, but it was heavily implied all CP9 had it.
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That’s why I said I wish I could send the zoro image wearing luffys straw hat. Zoro fans even saying he’s stronger than luffy and will beat kaido. It’s all ridiculous really. It’s horrible for sanji and zoro fans.
I am pretty sure Zoro will be the one to deal the death blow to Kaido. If you expect such from Luffy, I doubt Oda will make him kill anyone.
 

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Oda just retconned CP9 having haki pre timeskip so I have no doubt Oda could retcon Zoro's already established powera
Does Mantra being just another name for CoO was also retconning?

Rokushiki could be used to make the body harder, damage Luffy's rubber body, or cause shockwaves on impact.

I have speculated about it long before...
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zoro will open his eye to reveal sharingan....

Jk... but i've said this before, it could be for better sight.

pirates wore eyepatches to see better in the dark... This was also tested in mythbusters and proven to be true...

So Zoro closing his eye is to improve his vision which post time skip translate to better observation haki.
I think it's not very practical to keep one eye closed, instead of wearing an eyepatch.

Considering Zoro personality, I think he just removed his own eye, to give himself an disadvantage as compensation for Mihawk training him.

But it could also be an injury from Mihawk's training, since he's called "Hawk-eye". :grumble
 

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Does Mantra being just another name for CoO was also retconning?

Rokushiki could be used to make the body harder, damage Luffy's rubber body, or cause shockwaves on impact.

I have speculated about it long before...
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I think it's not very practical to keep one eye closed, instead of wearing an eyepatch.

Considering Zoro personality, I think he just removed his own eye, to give himself an disadvantage as compensation for Mihawk training him.

But it could also be an injury from Mihawk's training, since he's called "Hawk-eye". :grumble
No. Matara is just what Skypians call Haki

Like Wano calling it Ryou

Same thing, just given different names by different civilizations.
 

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I think it's not very practical to keep one eye closed, instead of wearing an eyepatch.

Considering Zoro personality, I think he just removed his own eye, to give himself an disadvantage as compensation for Mihawk training him.

But it could also be an injury from Mihawk's training, since he's called "Hawk-eye".
Well, you are right, i am not saying its smart, its Zoro after all......

I am not saying those didnt happen, those are more likely, but considering how Oda doesnt like eyepatches for pirates, he might just use this way to explain stronger vision...
 

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I am pretty sure Zoro will be the one to deal the death blow to Kaido. If you expect such from Luffy, I doubt Oda will make him kill anyone.
Well if you put it that way, sure... Zoro can kill ruthlessly while Luffy wont...

But i'd rather see Luffy, Law and others take down Kaido, enough that Kaido flees Wano and when the war actually happens, Sanji takes him down with one kick...
just kidding, Zoro cuts him in half.... that is if BB doesnt come in as swoop up his DF ability.
 

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Well if you put it that way, sure... Zoro can kill ruthlessly while Luffy wont...

But i'd rather see Luffy, Law and others take down Kaido, enough that Kaido flees Wano and when the war actually happens, Sanji takes him down with one kick...
just kidding, Zoro cuts him in half.... that is if BB doesnt come in as swoop up his DF ability.
There are too many hints for it not to happen by Zoro's hands. Yasu's speech+Enma+replicating Ryuma's feat+tiger and a dragon+effective way of dealing with Kaido...
I expect it to happen similar to Zoro vs Kuma scene back on Thriller Bark. Kaido goes after defeated Luffy and Zoro slides in with a Shishi Sonson. :smile-big
 

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I am pretty sure Zoro will be the one to deal the death blow to Kaido. If you expect such from Luffy, I doubt Oda will make him kill anyone.
It’s just not his place. Unless it’s luffys order I could never see him disrespecting luffys dream unless it’s behind his back. It’s one of those moments that’s been built up since punk hazard.

I’d rather see luffy show character growth and at least attempt to protect his crew shit even law. Zoro on the other hand has never interfered with luffys fights even the aftermath. Doesn’t seem to be in his character either.
 

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Zoro already struggled with killer and has two more opponents he will likely fight. I’m sure it’s a swordsman and a commander. I would like to hear The swordsman he fights is stronger than kaidos first mate tho.
 

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The only reason why Luffy hasn't killed his opponents is because he doesn't have a way to, as fists aren't going to kill top tier opponents, and Luffy isn't going to go out of his way to kill a defeated opponent. Zoro has swords, it's easier for him to kill.

But I don't see either of them killing Kaidou. If anyone, it'd be one of the Wano citizens like Kinemon, Momonosuke, or Hiyori. If it has to be Luffy or Zoro, it'd only be if the final attack that takes down Kaidou is the killing one.

Although Zoro usually shows killing intent, whom has he killed?
 

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Although Zoro usually shows killing intent, whom has he killed?
Mr.7 I believe from Baroque Works, or some other number, not sure if it's 7.
Magistrate killer nickname for killing the Magistrate in opening chapter of Wano, with a fkin pencil(John Wick shit right there).
Zoro is a natural born killer, as he was called by the minister of Fishman Island...

It’s just not his place. Unless it’s luffys order I could never see him disrespecting luffys dream unless it’s behind his back. It’s one of those moments that’s been built up since punk hazard.
I’d rather see luffy show character growth and at least attempt to protect his crew shit even law. Zoro on the other hand has never interfered with luffys fights even the aftermath. Doesn’t seem to be in his character either.
Zoro doesnt wait for Luffy's orders, he does what's necessary and I believe killing Kaido is a necessity.
Better to disrespect Luffy's dream than to let him die by Kaido's hands.
Zoro has taken part in Luffy's fights before, even tried to defeat major obstacle before Luffy was involved.
He got Enma, the sword that scarred Kaido, he was in the panel when Yasu said nobody took Kaido's head for 20 years.
Ryuma slew an eastern dragon over the capital parallel, tiger VS dragon.
Oh, it's in his character and this shit has been built up way longer than Punk Hazard.
 

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Zoro already struggled with killer and has two more opponents he will likely fight. I’m sure it’s a swordsman and a commander. I would like to hear The swordsman he fights is stronger than kaidos first mate tho.
The only possibility is Kyoshiro and not sure if he is going to be superior to King.
You could argue his status higher than at least Queen's since he ordered him to sent the Flying Six but King probably rides on a special wave.
 

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He killed two enemies out of at least ten, that's not much.
 
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