Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Pirate Queen]

It takes personality of sorts also to become a PK but that's not what we are talking about..A great VC would be somebody well rounded. But where does the benchmark lie as VC. Its Rayleigh.

So plz answer Rayleigh's strong suits and shortcomings..to where you can measure up other VC?

That isnt the discussion.

But if you must know my opinion on what makes a good VC

It's strength
Loyalty to their captain
Ability to take command in dire situations
Respect from enemies and allies alike
Valued by your subordinate and respected
Respect the Captain decision when one is made

Now why is this change of topic occuring?

 

[XXGenesis]

That isnt the discussion.

But if you must know my opinion on what makes a good VC

It's strength
Loyalty to their captain
Ability to take command in dire situations
Respect from enemies and allies alike
Valued by your subordinate and respected
Respect the Captain decision when one is made

Now why is this change of topic occuring?

Your crazy bro, your repeating what I'm saying, And you were the one that mention PK.

then you just listed every quality Zoro has more than any other crew member.

You just gave an argument that support mine. Yet find yourself to take a difference stance. You just like to debate controversial things.

I'm done with the convo.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Your crazy bro, your repeating what I'm saying, And you were the one that mention PK.

then you just listed every quality Zoro has more than any other crew member.

You just gave an argument that support mine. Yet find yourself to take a difference stance. You just like to debate controversial things.

I'm done with the convo.

Jinbei also matches that discription. Im glad your done, honestly. Your not understanding the heart of the discussion which is "who is essential for Luffy to be PK" and both Zoro and Brook are least essential.

I like discussing things that bring out conversation.

Zoro and Jinbei fill exactly the same role.

 

[nik87]

But nami cant become PK. We are talking essentials to be a PK. To sail the GL to the ultimate goal. Nami couldn't have done that.
And thats wrong. Jinbei is just as capable as Zoro strength wise.
If Zoro want to be captain and mutiny Luffy and take over as the Captain of the Strawhats then yes, Luffy wouldnt be needed because Jinbei fills that elite combat role and would give solid advice to Zoro, whereas Luffy is stupid lol.
Its funny. Your disagreeing with me, but your bottom line keeps reaching mine.

She can still fit. One Piece is a treasure, Nami would kill for a treasure. You dont need to scream I'll be PK to reach Raftel and still become PK even if dont want.
Anyone who wants to become PK can be replacement for Luffy because aside from PK wish, which so many have, Luffy brings nothing to the table.

Jinbe is strong, he is not a swordsman to deal with swordsmen. Every capable crew has at least one strong swordsman, obviously irreplaceable role which Jinbe cannot fulfill unless he has a sword and skills we dont know off.

 

[Pirate Queen]

She can still fit. One Piece is a treasure, Nami would kill for a treasure. You dont need to scream I'll be PK to reach Raftel and still become PK even if dont want.
Anyone who wants to become PK can be replacement for Luffy because aside from PK wish, which so many have, Luffy brings nothing to the table.

Jinbe is strong, he is not a swordsman to deal with swordsmen. Every capable crew has at least one strong swordsman, obviously irreplaceable role which Jinbe cannot fulfill unless he has a sword and skills we dont know off.

That is not factual. It is your opinion. Swordsmen are a common fighting stlye in OP. Its like saying you need a capable Devil Fruit user to deal with other crew DF users. Haki is a thing. Swordsmen aren't ESSENTIAL but they are useful.

Jinbei dealt with a Yonko's sword slash just fine not everyone is going to be up against yonko level swordsmen

Jinbei is just as capable of dealing with swordsman. Its just your opinion. Thats it.

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And another note. Zoro hasn't fought anyone that Jinbei couldn't defeat just as easily, if not moreso

 

[Shasha23]

That is not factual. It is your opinion. Swordsmen are a common fighting stlye in OP. Its like saying you need a capable Devil Fruit user to deal with other crew DF users. Haki is a thing. Swordsmen aren't ESSENTIAL but they are useful.

Jinbei dealt with a Yonko's sword slash just fine not everyone is going to be up against yonko level swordsmen

Jinbei is just as capable of dealing with swordsman. Its just your opinion. Thats it.

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And another note. Zoro hasn't fought anyone that Jinbei couldn't defeat just as easily, if not moreso

Wait wait Wait wait wait, you just show us a guy trying to block a sword and getting cut and then go on to say he can deal with swords

OK Lexus-chan please stop this nonsense already please

 

[Pirate Queen]

Ir

Wait wait Wait wait wait, you just show us a guy trying to block a sword and getting cut and then go on to say he can deal with swords

OK Lexus-chan please stop this nonsense already please

It was a clean slash from a Yonko level opponent and he was just fine
If BM cant cut Jinbei, who could? Outside of Mihawk?

Jinbei tanked a Yonko level sword slash and you brush it off. How is that not bias?

Mihawk could have sliced Jinbei in 2 but not every crew has to fight high caliber sword wielders.

At least understand the point being made if you wanna say I'm talking nonsense.

 

[Shasha23]

Ir

It was a clean slash from a Yonko level opponent and he was just fine
If BM cant cut Jinbei, who could? Outside of Mihawk?

Mihawk would have sliced Jinbei in 2 but not every crew has to fight high caliber sword wielders.

At least understand the point being made if you wanna say I'm talking nonsense.

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There you go again getting all agro because your being called out.

You just said they dont need Zoro because they have Jinbe who can deal with swords then you go on to provide a panel of him failing to deal with a sword now your getting all defensive when i point it out to you ................. damn i just

 

[Pirate Queen]

There you go again getting all agro because your being called out.

You just said they dont need Zoro because they have Jinbe who can deal with swords then you go on to provide a panel of him failing to deal with a sword now your getting all defensive when i point it out to you ................. damn i just

Lol what? But he did deal with the sword? He blocked it, didnt get cut, and countered.

He didnt even get scratched.

In what way did he not deal with the slash? His haki was strong enough to block a Yonko sword swing.

I'm providing facts you your trying to play as me getting defensive is laughable.

 

[Shasha23]

Lol what? But he did deal with the sword? He blocked it, didnt get cut, and countered.

He didnt even get scratched.

In what way did he not deal with the slash? His haki was strong enough to block a Yonko sword swing.

I'm providing facts you your trying to play as me getting defensive is laughable.

I guess you missed the part where he gets cut and blood gushes out and he is send flying by the swing, but hey you do you

 

[Pirate Queen]

I guess you missed the part where he gets cut and blood gushes out and he is send flying by the swing, but hey you do you

Blood gushes out, huh?

Sure it did...

It didn't even cut his clothing lol you mistook the effects of a horizontal slash effect for blood. A quick look at Jinbei would have shown you that he was completely untouched.




So again... Blocked a Yonko level sword slash without sustaining any damage.

 

[Fox666]

It was a clean slash from a Yonko level opponent and he was just fine

Big Mom probably wasn't with her full strength at the time.

Honestly if she was at 100%, I think the fight would go just like Kaido vs Luffy...

 

[M3J]

All your saying that in your opinion they harent hard decisions and im saying they are.so we will just have to agree to disagress here. Leaving your nakama to face the wraith of a Yonko is 100% a hard decision to make no matter the person.

Not necessarily because Jinbei would have stayed anyway to help his old crew, so Luffy had a choice between staying and risking capture given that the Sun Pirates were fighting so they could escape, or getting to Wano ASAP to topple Kaidou as per plan so he could challenge Big Mom again.


Anyway, now that Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro and part of the Scabbards, who will Zoro fight if Orochi's not strong? Might be King, unless BIg Mom's crew is going to be enemies as well.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Not necessarily because Jinbei would have stayed anyway to help his old crew, so Luffy had a choice between staying and risking capture given that the Sun Pirates were fighting so they could escape, or getting to Wano ASAP to topple Kaidou as per plan so he could challenge Big Mom again.


Anyway, now that Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro and part of the Scabbards, who will Zoro fight if Orochi's not strong? Might be King, unless BIg Mom's crew is going to be enemies as well.

Zoro vs King seems legit... but Imagine Marco vs King aerial battle! I wanna seem that lol

What if Zoro goes after Big Mom? Idk.... fuck but it seems Luffy, Kid, and slaw might be taking on Kaido together...

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Possible Zoro opponents

BigMom (Sworduser)
Kaido (apparently uncutable)
King (sworduser)
Queen (Sworduser)
Jack (Sworduser)
Smoothie (Sworduser)
Orochi (sworduser?)

Idk man. Orochi is actually pretty legit and now the moves he made in the latest chapter???? Fuck, we might be surprised and he is an actual threat.... He's... He's something.

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Big Mom probably wasn't with her full strength at the time.

Honestly if she was at 100%, I think the fight would go just like Kaido vs Luffy...

It doesnt take away from Jinbei blocking her without a scratch tho.

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Oh shit, and Jack is a sworduser... maybe or a scythe user? He uses weird blades.

Zoro's opponent is the biggest mystery I think

 

[nik87]

Idk man. Orochi is actually pretty legit and now the moves he made in the latest chapter???? Fuck, we might be surprised and he is an actual threat.... He's... He's something.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Did you read the latest spoilers?

Orochi has been legit the villian MVP of Wano.... even above Kaido. He's actually smart.

 

[nik87]

Did you read the latest spoilers?

Orochi has been legit the villian MVP of Wano.... even above Kaido. He's actually smart.

Smart=strong, capable fighter?

 

[Pirate Queen]

Smart=strong, capable fighter?

Smart = Troublesome, elusive fighter

Like a Pika. Zoro was strong enough to fuck over Pika instantly but the fight lasted a while because Pika was troublesome. Not strong.

Zoro continuously hacking Orochi's heads off but they keep regrowing, something like that.

But either way Cutting Kaido > Defeating whatever his arc opponent is so does it really matter?

 

[nik87]

Zoro continuously hacking Orochi's heads off but they keep regrowing, something like that.

Well, that's the only way he can last more than a minute, otherwise, just let Hiyori kill him...

 

[Pirate Queen]

Well, that's the only way he can last more than a minute, otherwise, just let Hiyori kill him...

You won't find me disagreeing there, I just think Orochi has been underestimated and truth of the matter is that he is unbelievably cunning. Even when he was getting mocked for being overly paranoid.... no one took him seriously.