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Is It a Requirement for Zoro to have Conqueror's Haki?


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Not only one. He been hype tool so bad this arc. Really destroy 'Fans of Zoro' fragile egos especially last chapter with Apoo owning him and running away. If Zoro going face YC lvl threat he needs squad, no solo at all. Delusions of him putting a fight to Kaido when Luffy had trouble is headcannon fantasies that his fanbase can't admit. Zoro vs Orochi and Kanjuro is more been shaping giving the writing.
I know this is bait but I'll bite.

Hype tool ? for who? We already knew all supernova were crazy strong. Its only some fans who underestimate them you included.

If you count Apoo's clash as a loss for Zoro that makes it impossible to face Kaido then Luffy who was knocked out by the same goofy DJ certainly cant face a yonko either.

So what now is the raid cancelled is everyone going back home? Or maybe Zoro will fight Orochi and Luffy will fight Kanjuro while Sanji soloes King and Kaido?
 

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Is no one else disappointed with Zoro this arc? Am I seriously the only one? This is adventure in samurai country and he has done nothing. Before he got to Wano didn't he say he would round samurai up? What happened? Literally every supernova he has encountered he left bleeding and worst he fainted due to injuries from one. He couldn't do anything to Orochi cause he was blocked. Seems like running carrying Luffy is his best accomplishment all Wano

King is the only calamity with no feat I mean he kicked a ship and didn't accomplish his goal. Jack has major durability feats and Queen made Big Mom go night night all of that is way better than hey I kicked a ship out the air especially when completely slicing a ship in 2 isn't out of the ordinary now a days seems pretty weak in comparison to what others done
You are not alone, Moe is with you.
Fights didnt even start yet and its easily the best arc already and Zoro with half the panel time has accomplished more than the mc himself, perhaps because in Wano, Zoro is the actual mc. Last chapter was amazing, it had all - it shattered the dreams of those trolls who thought Zoro's endurance was lowered since the guy just brushed off a chest slice like it's nothing and will fight the entire arc with it and at the same time it shattered the dreams of those who thought Luffy is untouchable, for the second time in Wano. What more could I have asked for, lol...

King's rank is ironclad, the strongest under Kaido himself. He would beat Luffy easily. Good thing, there is big brother Zoro to protect him from real threats.
 

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Why do you think our "fragile egos" are destroyed? Zoro retreating is smart because even if they can take on the enemies there, they, as Zoro implied, would not be fresh enough to take on Kaidou, who's one of the strongest fighters alive. I'm glad Zoro chose to do the smart thing and retreat.
Also quite ironic for moe to downplay the smart strategy from zoro, didn't he always brag about sanji being smart fighter?
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If Zoro going face YC lvl threat he needs squad, no solo at all.
Zoro only needs the squad to witness him defeating a YC threats
 

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Why do you think our "fragile egos" are destroyed? Zoro retreating is smart because even if they can take on the enemies there, they, as Zoro implied, would not be fresh enough to take on Kaidou, who's one of the strongest fighters alive. I'm glad Zoro chose to do the smart thing and retreat.
Blame the ones who stated 'Year of Zoro' and stated Zoro will win every fight he come across and won't lose, have his sword taken again, be taken seriously, etc.. The arc shows headcannons of each one of desires isn't how they want it especially unable to do even something to Apoo.

It is smart, but underwhelming for those expecting Zoro to do something. Plus shouldn't invade the first place if they knew it was bad to do a brawl and not exoect to get attack from that many members of Yonko Crew.
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Also quite ironic for moe to downplay the smart strategy from zoro, didn't he always brag about sanji being smart fighter?
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Zoro only needs the squad to witness him defeating a YC threats
Nah they need to baby him while doing the work while Zoro watch on and might steal the finish to beat YC lvl threat like on Orochi.
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I know this is bait but I'll bite.

Hype tool ? for who? We already knew all supernova were crazy strong. Its only some fans who underestimate them you included.

If you count Apoo's clash as a loss for Zoro that makes it impossible to face Kaido then Luffy who was knocked out by the same goofy DJ certainly cant face a yonko either.

So what now is the raid cancelled is everyone going back home? Or maybe Zoro will fight Orochi and Luffy will fight Kanjuro while Sanji soloes King and Kaido?
Your one of the people stated nothing will happen like that to him. Just repeating what you stated about it and how arc made him hype tool in every fight. Yeah, you guys did like with Hawkins, Nerf Kamazou, and Apoo who you stated aren't stronger or strong enough to harm Zoro, but did completely to point one of them made him faint.

Nah, Luffy wake up instantly and he is MC, so take more than that to stop progress unlike Zoro side. Also where Sanji came from? Talking about Zoro. He done better feats than guy who can't even beat a guy wanting position of T6H while he took one out effortlessly.

Again not bait, but no need take it personal cause arc didn't go the way you want. Just saying keep expectation low or you going hurt headcannons you want to force when it's not your story.
 

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Is no one else disappointed with Zoro this arc? Am I seriously the only one? This is adventure in samurai country and he has done nothing. Before he got to Wano didn't he say he would round samurai up? What happened? Literally every supernova he has encountered he left bleeding and worst he fainted due to injuries from one. He couldn't do anything to Orochi cause he was blocked. Seems like running carrying Luffy is his best accomplishment all Wano
Well, its been disappointing for everyone in that aspect. I am personally not a fan of RS upgrade for Sanji, so i'll say he's been disappointing as well. The only feat he's had is using technology which experiments on humans by the people he most despises.
Same can be said about everyone else as well. In fact, Zoro's gotten more coverage than any other strawhats, with Luffy obviously an exception.

Your disappointment on Zoro being hit by two supernovas is ignoring the fact that either's abilities were vastly unknown before this chapter. Apoo's ability is distance based, and both Luffy and Zoro were within his threshold. Zoro isn't a long distance fighter. Hawkins' ability is hard to counter, even Law was trapped initially but Law being smart figured out a way, not shown in the manga.

Zoro's got a huge upgrade with Enma, and linearly shown to be able to control it more and more. I still need to see more to be convinced that he has tamed it, but there's a visible improvement in the positive direction.



King is the only calamity with no feat I mean he kicked a ship and didn't accomplish his goal. Jack has major durability feats and Queen made Big Mom go night night all of that is way better than hey I kicked a ship out the air especially when completely slicing a ship in 2 isn't out of the ordinary now a days seems pretty weak in comparison to what others done
Yea, his only feat is because he's shown to fight in only one panel. There's still a lot more to see and confirm.
 

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Is no one else disappointed with Zoro this arc? Am I seriously the only one? This is adventure in samurai country and he has done nothing. Before he got to Wano didn't he say he would round samurai up? What happened? Literally every supernova he has encountered he left bleeding and worst he fainted due to injuries from one. He couldn't do anything to Orochi cause he was blocked. Seems like running carrying Luffy is his best accomplishment all Wano
It's the New World, it's supposed to be super dangerous, so the author is giving the Strawhats more challenges.

King is the only calamity with no feat I mean he kicked a ship and didn't accomplish his goal. Jack has major durability feats and Queen made Big Mom go night night all of that is way better than hey I kicked a ship out the air especially when completely slicing a ship in 2 isn't out of the ordinary now a days seems pretty weak in comparison to what others done
To be fair, the Chanter is stupidly large. Comparing it to Sunny, it seems around 500 meters long.

That said, comparing it to Law slicing a mountain, or Zoro cutting Pica in half, it's not such an extraordinary feat for the New World.
 

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Well, its been disappointing for everyone in that aspect. I am personally not a fan of RS upgrade for Sanji, so i'll say he's been disappointing as well. The only feat he's had is using technology which experiments on humans by the people he most despises.
Same can be said about everyone else as well. In fact, Zoro's gotten more coverage than any other strawhats, with Luffy obviously an exception.

Your disappointment on Zoro being hit by two supernovas is ignoring the fact that either's abilities were vastly unknown before this chapter. Apoo's ability is distance based, and both Luffy and Zoro were within his threshold. Zoro isn't a long distance fighter. Hawkins' ability is hard to counter, even Law was trapped initially but Law being smart figured out a way, not shown in the manga.

Zoro's got a huge upgrade with Enma, and linearly shown to be able to control it more and more. I still need to see more to be convinced that he has tamed it, but there's a visible improvement in the positive direction.




Yea, his only feat is because he's shown to fight in only one panel. There's still a lot more to see and confirm.
Nah, Sanji have been most impressive and he doesn't rely on it as means of power unlike Zoro who need magic sword to have for his side, but even then having Enma didn't help with facing Apoo so it brought more disappointment. Sanji uses it for stealth and disguise stuff, not because he wants to be Germa or anything. He clarified he still hates them, but use suit for purposes, but not for that he won't get strong and even ask Usopp and Franky to modify for him. He took out PO and fought Drake better than Zoro with his Supernovas opponents (One of them was nerf and he fainted to that one). It's not same thing compare to Zoro who some thought he do things in their headcannon, but got wasted more in his fights than to count.

Not doubting Zoro won't have spotlight, but at this point to say he go after Kaido still or solo YC lvl opponent is more headcannon than fact. He need squad for YC lvl opponent while Kaido be reserve for Luffy, Kidd, and Law only.
 

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What if we are proven right?
What if your proven wrong again? You can't keep dodging faults when you try to argue even early on Zoro wouldn't have certain events happen to them, but they did.
 

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And just because I know you will also mention his name, why do you think Zoro will fight Kanjuro?
@King Moe I think you missed this one out among your responses and you've since mentioned the characters name, so I want to know how he factors into your predictions please.
 

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@King Moe I think you missed this one out among your responses and you've since mentioned the characters name, so I want to know how he factors into your predictions please.
Sorry my bad. Reason is simple since Hiyori is involved if Oda is writing bonding between the two, then it make sense Zoro rescue her from Kanjuro and face him just like how he protected early in this arc from Kamazou and Ninja Squad. You can't say you denied this possibility especially since Zoro stated he wants to kill Orochi, it push more Kanjuro could stand in his way to prevent that and thus both are protecting and fighting for those they allied with. I can see that happen.

Plus Zoro have poor record facing notable and credible swordsmen/swordswomen. His past enemies show that majority are not swordsmen especially in NW Saga, so facing Kanjuro and Orochi will help with that given their reputation. At least he have someone to start somewhere to face with.
 

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What if your proven wrong again? You can't keep dodging faults when you try to argue even early on Zoro wouldn't have certain events happen to them, but they did.
What if I am right?
 

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Sorry my bad. Reason is simple since Hiyori is involved if Oda is writing bonding between the two, then it make sense Zoro rescue her from Kanjuro and face him just like how he protected early in this arc from Kamazou and Ninja Squad. You can't say you denied this possibility especially since Zoro stated he wants to kill Orochi, it push more Kanjuro could stand in his way to prevent that and thus both are protecting and fighting for those they allied with. I can see that happen.

Plus Zoro have poor record facing notable and credible swordsmen/swordswomen. His past enemies show that majority are not swordsmen especially in NW Saga, so facing Kanjuro and Orochi will help with that given their reputation. At least he have someone to start somewhere to face with.
If it's to protect Orochi and Zoro comes across him first, then I can see that happening. But Hiyori is not on Onigashima, so there's nothing at stake there or agenda to push. I've mentioned this in my previous post, Zoro saying he wants to fight Orochi doesn't meant he'll get the chance to. Truth his the Scabbards have more of a reason to fight him than he does. It holds more weight for either Momo or one of the Scabbard to defeat him due to the events of 20 years ago AND the bond they had with Yasuie. Also characters claim they want to destroy others all the time, but it doesn't always pan out that way.

I'd correct you there only to say that "not having the opportunity to fight noteworthy/infamous swordsmen" is different from "having a poor track record against notable swordsmen". As one would seem to suggest that Zoro has fought infamous swordsmen and was unable to defeat them. In the OP world you could argue that only 3 names have been mentioned of notable AND acknowledged swordsmen; Mihawk, Vista and Shanks. We presume Shiryu to also be one based on rank in his crew, his shown wielding of his meitou and probably of his crew being the endgame for the SH.

Orochi is credible swordsman based on what? Kanjuro might be, he's no slouch by any means, especially as you say, for an opening fight.
 

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Blame the ones who stated 'Year of Zoro' and stated Zoro will win every fight he come across and won't lose, have his sword taken again, be taken seriously, etc.. The arc shows headcannons of each one of desires isn't how they want it especially unable to do even something to Apoo.

It is smart, but underwhelming for those expecting Zoro to do something. Plus shouldn't invade the first place if they knew it was bad to do a brawl and not exoect to get attack from that many members of Yonko Crew.
No, I'm blaming you for trying to troll and being illogical. How is he unable to do something to Apoo when he wasn't fighting Apoo, is far away from him, and is trying to retreat? Apoo attacked them out of nowhere, it wasn't like they were trying to fight Apoo.

Nah, it's not underwhelming to anyone with a brain. It'd be more underwhelming if Zoro challenged them and lost, which hasn't happened. And they weren't planning to fight when they were invading, they were planning to mix in until Luffy got mad.
 

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If it's to protect Orochi and Zoro comes across him first, then I can see that happening. But Hiyori is not on Onigashima, so there's nothing at stake there or agenda to push. I've mentioned this in my previous post, Zoro saying he wants to fight Orochi doesn't meant he'll get the chance to. Truth his the Scabbards have more of a reason to fight him than he does. It holds more weight for either Momo or one of the Scabbard to defeat him due to the events of 20 years ago AND the bond they had with Yasuie. Also characters claim they want to destroy others all the time, but it doesn't always pan out that way.

I'd correct you there only to say that "not having the opportunity to fight noteworthy/infamous swordsmen" is different from "having a poor track record against notable swordsmen". As one would seem to suggest that Zoro has fought infamous swordsmen and was unable to defeat them. In the OP world you could argue that only 3 names have been mentioned of notable AND acknowledged swordsmen; Mihawk, Vista and Shanks. We presume Shiryu to also be one based on rank in his crew, his shown wielding of his meitou and probably of his crew being the endgame for the SH.

Orochi is credible swordsman based on what? Kanjuro might be, he's no slouch by any means, especially as you say, for an opening fight.
Where it stated Hiyori is not around and won't be forced to into area as feel she be in one way or another. Not saying Scabbards won't also fight as it be team fight for Orochi in beating his DF along with Kanjuro. He won't face them all alone, so everyone have their piece along Zoro and them protecting Hiyori. Doubt Oda make him state those and build his bond with Hiyori just for it not matter when he fights later as Kanjuro and Orochi is hinting strongly to be that.

That too I agree. This can be one as we see Kanjuro is not a joke as we thought and beating Scabbard would ne noteworthy for Zoro along with Orochi and while it is unknown, public eye sees him as a great swordsmen so when word gets out about Zoro the one who beat him, it put more on his swordsmen ability even if Orochi is 'overhype' on how he really hypes. Feel Oda wouldn't waste that after hyping people of Wano saying Orochi is strongest swordsmen of all even if they don't know 'who he truly is', but doubt he is slouch in his power especially that Mythical Zoan DF if it based on real life Orochi.

Just saying they have more leeway of being believable writing paths given what we seen prior for Zoro on his side of things. Make no sense he does nothing about it or for them after building those bonds with Yasu and Hiyori.
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No, I'm blaming you for trying to troll and being illogical. How is he unable to do something to Apoo when he wasn't fighting Apoo, is far away from him, and is trying to retreat? Apoo attacked them out of nowhere, it wasn't like they were trying to fight Apoo.

Nah, it's not underwhelming to anyone with a brain. It'd be more underwhelming if Zoro challenged them and lost, which hasn't happened. And they weren't planning to fight when they were invading, they were planning to mix in until Luffy got mad.
Not trolling. You really didn't see before Wano Arc everyone was claiming how great it be and calling it that? I am not making this up. You can see all around with his fanbase stating that. Idk why you think it never stated or said. He could give slash to Apoo from afar. It's not that hard for the guy who can cut cliffs from distance, but guess it is. At least get attack in before choosing to retreat so Apoo be distracted by that.

Whether he outcome had a result or not, doesn't take away how easily he got hurt and how again he was hype tool for someone else which you can't denied. I am just stating keep Zoro's hype reasonable instead stating he is 'unbeatable' when he isn't as arc shows when facing more credible threats. They choose to fight for brawl instead being stealthy, so expect a fight back when your attacking. It's not that hard to see that especially Zoro one who stated arcs ago 'Be serious! We are in NW now!' to Luffy and instead stopping him, he went along and got hurt before his major battles. You can't say Zoro has no faults in all of this when he does.
 

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Where it stated Hiyori is not around and won't be forced to into area as feel she be in one way or another.
Are you asking me a question or...?

Not saying Scabbards won't also fight as it be team fight for Orochi in beating his DF along with Kanjuro. He won't face them all alone, so everyone have their piece along Zoro and them protecting Hiyori. Doubt Oda make him state those and build his bond with Hiyori just for it not matter when he fights later as Kanjuro and Orochi is hinting strongly to be that.
Hiyori doesn't matter at this point of the arc, she's not around for her presence to be used as an incentive to fuel a fight between Zoro, Orochi or Kanjuro. She even mentioned herself the reason she didn't want to join the group, as to not be a distraction (ch955). So unless someone has gone to get her from her hiding place, her bond with Zoro in my opinion only served to advance the story in terms of the swapping of the swords(upgrading Zoro's weapons), revealing her identity and being informed of the alliance, plot and her brother's fate. She did tease him a little bit but nothing will come of that and Zoro didn't particularly seem to care about that.


That too I agree. This can be one as we see Kanjuro is not a joke as we thought and beating Scabbard would ne noteworthy for Zoro along with Orochi and while it is unknown, public eye sees him as a great swordsmen so when word gets out about Zoro the one who beat him, it put more on his swordsmen ability even if Orochi is 'overhype' on how he really hypes. Feel Oda wouldn't waste that after hyping people of Wano saying Orochi is strongest swordsmen of all even if they don't know 'who he truly is', but doubt he is slouch in his power especially that Mythical Zoan DF if it based on real life Orochi.
Orochi is an unknown entity at the moment with regards to strength but personally I think his devil fruit will be just for show and he won't be that strong. With all else the alliance is facing, it'd further the impossible task they have at hand if it turned out the shogun was also another powerful foe to defeat, rather than just an obstacle in order to return Wano to its former glory. Which is why I don't believe the propaganda being spread around the young children of the Flower Capital about his strength.

If it turns out he is a notable opponent in this arc, then either he'll fight Zoro or preferably for me, a combination of the Scabbard; Kinemon being one of them. I could see a scenario where Zoro comes across him but recognises that the Scabbards have a bigger grudge against him and he'd walk away from it to chase bigger fish. Which could leave the place open for a team battle of Orochi and Kanjuro v the Scabbards.
 

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Not trolling. You really didn't see before Wano Arc everyone was claiming how great it be and calling it that? I am not making this up. You can see all around with his fanbase stating that. Idk why you think it never stated or said. He could give slash to Apoo from afar. It's not that hard for the guy who can cut cliffs from distance, but guess it is. At least get attack in before choosing to retreat so Apoo be distracted by that.

Whether he outcome had a result or not, doesn't take away how easily he got hurt and how again he was hype tool for someone else which you can't denied. I am just stating keep Zoro's hype reasonable instead stating he is 'unbeatable' when he isn't as arc shows when facing more credible threats. They choose to fight for brawl instead being stealthy, so expect a fight back when your attacking. It's not that hard to see that especially Zoro one who stated arcs ago 'Be serious! We are in NW now!' to Luffy and instead stopping him, he went along and got hurt before his major battles. You can't say Zoro has no faults in all of this when he does.
I don't care what they say, you still don't have to respond. How can Zoro get an attack in when he's trying to retreat? When Luffy was knocked out, and he had to grab Luffy? When they were still confused? Getting an attack in isn't going to help them.

It doesn't take away that they had no idea what Apoo's powers were and were taken by surprise. He and Luffy are also going up against multiple opponents so it's not going to be easy for them either. So far, Zoro's proven he's difficult to beat when despite being stabbed, he took down Killer. You can argue Zoro fainted, but he fainted after beating Killer.

They weren't fighting to brawl, Luffy got pissed off and attacked few people, Zoro joined in, and then they knew they had to retreat.
 

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Sorry my bad. Reason is simple since Hiyori is involved if Oda is writing bonding between the two, then it make sense Zoro rescue her from Kanjuro and face him just like how he protected early in this arc from Kamazou and Ninja Squad. You can't say you denied this possibility especially since Zoro stated he wants to kill Orochi, it push more Kanjuro could stand in his way to prevent that and thus both are protecting and fighting for those they allied with. I can see that happen.

Plus Zoro have poor record facing notable and credible swordsmen/swordswomen. His past enemies show that majority are not swordsmen especially in NW Saga, so facing Kanjuro and Orochi will help with that given their reputation. At least he have someone to start somewhere to face with.
Zoro had poor record against swordsmen?
He toyed with and one-shotted the best swordsman in fishman island.
Your reasoning for zoro vs orochi is also forced. Scabbards had more reasons to fight orochi rather than zoro.
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Nah, Sanji have been most impressive and he doesn't rely on it as means of power unlike Zoro who need magic sword to have for his side, but even then having Enma didn't help with facing Apoo so it brought more disappointment. Sanji uses it for stealth and disguise stuff, not because he wants to be Germa or anything. He clarified he still hates them, but use suit for purposes, but not for that he won't get strong and even ask Usopp and Franky to modify for him. He took out PO and fought Drake better than Zoro with his Supernovas opponents (One of them was nerf and he fainted to that one). It's not same thing compare to Zoro who some thought he do things in their headcannon, but got wasted more in his fights than to count.

Not doubting Zoro won't have spotlight, but at this point to say he go after Kaido still or solo YC lvl opponent is more headcannon than fact. He need squad for YC lvl opponent while Kaido be reserve for Luffy, Kidd, and Law only.
Sanji lost to drake when he didn't use raid suit so he definitely needs RS to power him up.
Zoro vs king or kaido
Sanji vs queen or drake
 

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Zoro had poor record against swordsmen?
He toyed with and one-shotted the best swordsman in fishman island.
Your reasoning for zoro vs orochi is also forced. Scabbards had more reasons to fight orochi rather than zoro.
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Sanji lost to drake when he didn't use raid suit so he definitely needs RS to power him up.
Zoro vs king or kaido
Sanji vs queen or drake
LMAO XD! New Fishmen Pirates were instant fodder, don't you dare compare them as credible threats lol. It's not forced as it's the truth. Zoro has no record of facing credible swordsmen in NW and you can't accept that Kanjuro and Orochi are his best choices still.

Where Sanji came from? Got get insecurity just because he face King or Queen in his final fight while Zoro gets Kanjuro or Orochi for his. He never lost any fight in Wano, just Zoro have, so stop forcing headcannons around..
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I don't care what they say, you still don't have to respond. How can Zoro get an attack in when he's trying to retreat? When Luffy was knocked out, and he had to grab Luffy? When they were still confused? Getting an attack in isn't going to help them.

It doesn't take away that they had no idea what Apoo's powers were and were taken by surprise. He and Luffy are also going up against multiple opponents so it's not going to be easy for them either. So far, Zoro's proven he's difficult to beat when despite being stabbed, he took down Killer. You can argue Zoro fainted, but he fainted after beating Killer.

They weren't fighting to brawl, Luffy got pissed off and attacked few people, Zoro joined in, and then they knew they had to retreat.
Tell it to them before going for me first though. He can attack from afar, can't he? You saying he shouldn't try to slice him with Enma to create more separation and more chance to escape? We know range of magic sword and power, so it baffles me why he didn't try it in that moment.

Shouldn't be smart for them to just attack them when your in crowd of unknown DF/Smile users then which is fault on both, not just Luffy and Zoro should know better the same. Also nah, Zoro fainted in this arc and Kamazou in his nerf state did it with ease. His durbality and stamina aren't same as before and it shows when Apoo need one non-serious slice and he went on his knees. Zoro looking less difficult and more easy to beat each time he is set up with someone to be honest. Just the truth on situation.
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Are you asking me a question or...?



Hiyori doesn't matter at this point of the arc, she's not around for her presence to be used as an incentive to fuel a fight between Zoro, Orochi or Kanjuro. She even mentioned herself the reason she didn't want to join the group, as to not be a distraction (ch955). So unless someone has gone to get her from her hiding place, her bond with Zoro in my opinion only served to advance the story in terms of the swapping of the swords(upgrading Zoro's weapons), revealing her identity and being informed of the alliance, plot and her brother's fate. She did tease him a little bit but nothing will come of that and Zoro didn't particularly seem to care about that.




Orochi is an unknown entity at the moment with regards to strength but personally I think his devil fruit will be just for show and he won't be that strong. With all else the alliance is facing, it'd further the impossible task they have at hand if it turned out the shogun was also another powerful foe to defeat, rather than just an obstacle in order to return Wano to its former glory. Which is why I don't believe the propaganda being spread around the young children of the Flower Capital about his strength.

If it turns out he is a notable opponent in this arc, then either he'll fight Zoro or preferably for me, a combination of the Scabbard; Kinemon being one of them. I could see a scenario where Zoro comes across him but recognises that the Scabbards have a bigger grudge against him and he'd walk away from it to chase bigger fish. Which could leave the place open for a team battle of Orochi and Kanjuro v the Scabbards.
Yep, I was. Sorry typo on the end as supposed to be question.

'Hiyori doesn't matter to the arc'? That's a bold 'claim' there, Gold. No offense on you, but to say she won't play a role doesn't make sense there and ignoring her being around Zoro and thinking he won't do anything to help her doesn't make sense at all to boot. Why Oda give them panel time with him as same with Yasu if it won't mean nothing to him to do something for them? That's not his style as from what we seen with Luffy and Sanji with ladies, they would fight and make promises to them as well protect them, so don't see where Zoro is opposite to not do that when he already did with Hiyori already few times. Again you can't be for sure as Oda wouldn't waste her on doing nothing entire War and not get involved somehow. Feel her presence will show one way or another.

Idk about that it is one thing if it was normal DF which is decent enough, but Oda gives him an full on Mythical Zoan DF which is rare and presumably stronger than Logia Fruits, so to waste it all just for fodder being doesn't make sense especially Oda treated him in writing as not truly a fool, but a smart fighter who is great at planning ahead and how to win his fights, so don't think it be just straightforward win as feel it more to take Orochi down especially if he can regenerate like lore of Orochi in real life.

That's what I mean it be team fight with Kanjuro, T6H (One with a sword), and Orochi vs Zoro and Scabbards with Hiyori and Momo as it give a chance for why Zoro was bonding with Hiyori and Yasu more to get revenge for latter and also face noteworthy swordsmen on his side with team to make it credible and is possible route given Oda's writing as of late is what I am saying.
 
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