Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[nik87]

Well, i've mostly given up on the anime, so i can avoid it thankfully.

I dont watch it either since long time, probably somewhere around Dressrosa but I checked out Zoro episodes in Wano.

 

[thedude]

I dont watch it either since long time, probably somewhere around Dressrosa but I checked out Zoro episodes in Wano.

Yeah, that seems to be about where i stopped. Seeing this fight now doesn't make me want to get back in. Which is too bad. Still love the voice cast in the anime, they just aren't being served well by the animation.

 

[King Moe]

I am kinda shock some dislike episode despite giving more on Zoro with animation, but I do understand what you guys mean on how it operate, but not that bad or at least it's what we have to see on when they add-on Anime only scenes as they been extending a lot fights more and filling out off-screen. That will continue with animation, but it's Non-Canon, so don't have worry much on them.

Guess shows truly Zoro isn't everything that fans like even seeing factual complaints like this XD.

 

[McNuss]

Hahaha lolol.

I can somewhat forgive the slash to be exploding or Killer shooting laser beams but the dark aura super sayan crap is too much.

Since Video games normally take after the anime....

We will never get a video game properly featuring Zoro. That dark aura shit is already in the most recent games.

Bye Bye Marimo Samurai. One single Zorotard getting in charge of animation caused that much damage. Unbelievable.

 

[nik87]

Bye Bye Marimo Samurai. One single Zorotard getting in charge of animation caused that much damage. Unbelievable.

LoL, it started with Luffy vs Katakuri. Dont blame the Zorotards.
Luffy was summoning golden snakes and shit... DBZ lvl of destruction far worse than in Zoro vs Kamazou.
Also, Zoro's aura is a thing since forever. It also manifested with Asura and anime had it back then too.

 

[Tias]

I don't expect movie quality animations obviously (though I don't know what animation quality the OP movies use). But... this is clearly subpar. This is one of the longest running anime and arguably one of their cash cows. And yet at its best it's painful to watch.

Them being restricted to one chapter per episode is not much of an excuse, its a reason for which this is terrible.

You're clearly expecting way too freaking much. Why? I have no clue, but this was fucking amazing in terms of animation quality.
Seriously, are you an "animation art connoisseur" Maybe drink some fancy wine and eat some cheese as you sit there and judge all the plebeian animations or something?

 

[kkck]

You're clearly expecting way too freaking much. Why? I have no clue, but this was fucking amazing in terms of animation quality.
Seriously, are you an "animation art connoisseur" Maybe drink some fancy wine and eat some cheese as you sit there and judge all the plebeian animations or something?

There are plenty of anime out there that do better in terms of animation quality. Dunno what's so amazing about a billion cuts and a tornado at 5 fps.. I am not much of a wine drinker but if I get some cheese then oh boy, you plebs have no chance.

 

[King Moe]

There are plenty of anime out there that do better in terms of animation quality. Dunno what's so amazing about a billion cuts and a tornado at 5 fps.. I am not much of a wine drinker but if I get some cheese then oh boy, you plebs have no chance.

What kind of animation you go for that they should have done better in your eyes?

 

[kkck]

What kind of animation you go for that they should have done better in your eyes?

Well, what I have mentioned earlier. Less cuts, less low fps tornadoes (I should ask for no tornadoes at all but at this point the bar remains super low) and zero purple kaio kens (which I assume is super reasonable regardless of how high or low the bar is). And if we are going for the really fancy stuff we should also be able to tell where stuff is in relation to each other all through the fight (though this is admittedly AAA stuff when it comes to animation). If you look at zoro's purple kaio ken you'd think he flew from that quaint little area with the bridge and the river and whatnot all the way to fucking namek....

 

[King Moe]

Well, what I have mentioned earlier. Less cuts, less low fps tornadoes (I should ask for no tornadoes at all but at this point the bar remains super low) and zero purple kaio kens (which I assume is super reasonable regardless of how high or low the bar is). And if we are going for the really fancy stuff we should also be able to tell where stuff is in relation to each other all through the fight (though this is admittedly AAA stuff when it comes to animation). If you look at zoro's purple kaio ken you'd think he flew from that quaint little area with the bridge and the river and whatnot all the way to fucking namek....

I can see where your getting at it don't want them making you feel he has more power than he looks in adding stuff like that and messing too much out of canon, but again they doing to extend fights as we seen early. We shouldn't be too much on them as just see as Anime-only scenes compare to Manga which is more canon on things for the characters.

 

[kkck]

I can see where your getting at it don't want them making you feel he has more power than he looks in adding stuff like that and messing too much out of canon, but again they doing to extend fights as we seen early. We shouldn't be too much on them as just see as Anime-only scenes compare to Manga which is more canon on things for the characters.

My issue is not with the fights being extended or the lack of cannon, my issue is with the animation being gibberish and noise and pointless kaio kens. it's fine if they extend a fight but... don't have 4793 cuts per second, avoid the low FPS tornadoes and if that's not doable at least give them 30 fps for decency's sake and FFS JUST KILL KAIO KEN ZORO.

 

[King Moe]

My issue is not with the fights being extended or the lack of cannon, my issue is with the animation being gibberish and noise and pointless kaio kens. it's fine if they extend a fight but... don't have 4793 cuts per second, avoid the low FPS tornadoes and if that's not doable at least give them 30 fps for decency's sake and FFS JUST KILL KAIO KEN ZORO.

I know, that what I agree with you about on that stance too. Just saying that how they been doing stuff like past fights so far, so expect it like that later or at least sometimes it will occur on it's end.

 

[Fox666]

I mean it is useless to cry about it, the entire arc is land of swordsmen and whatever any swordsman does, it indirectly hypes up Zoro.

IMHO plenty of times Zoro was having a hard time in Wano (Killer, Kyoshiro, Appo), so I wouldn't call it hype, if anything it shows he has a lot to grow.

 

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[King Moe]

Welp after latest chapter, theories that 'Zoro only/and Luffy will be ones to damage Kaido' and 'Zoro will 'solo' and 'face' Kaido' have just been destroyed as we see Scabbards are ones who actually give him damage to his body and first ones. If it looking to be that Kaido get team by many angles, it wouldn't matter much on who dealt the attack on him since everyone are playing a role to take him down, so once again Zoro having Enma didn't mean he will 'beat' Kaido when that is imagination to begin with given Luffy always take priority in beating major antagonist himself always. Pretty sure Luffy will take majorly in blow and defeating Kaido even when teaming up, so we are getting glimpse more on how things could lead, but Zoro won't be in it as he will have his issues with facing Orochi (If turn out he is truly alive due to DF and get stronger than before), Kanjuro (If not a fake act again in being cut down), or T6H.

If he does face YC lvl opponent (Orochi and Kanjuro in this talk), he need a squad to help him out for that fight. Can't see him solo anyone that strong given his performance doesn't push he can handle someone by himself on his fights.

 

[nik87]

theories that 'Zoro only/and Luffy will be ones to damage Kaido' and 'Zoro will 'solo' and 'face' Kaido' have just been destroyed

I havent seen those theories you speak of, better quote the people who said it.
However, there is one thing that for sure got destroyed, the headcanon that Zoro cant cut Kaido, something I have been saying for longer than a year.
Guess who was right about the sword demon in human form?

"Don't speak ill of Zoro."　-Eiichiro Oda, Niconico Live Broadcast (28 December 2011)

Whether Zoro can or can not damage Kaido the way he is now is not depending from Enma. Besides, he did say that there is nothing he cannot cut.
We are talking about the guy who has gone against Mihawk for two years...
Has Mihawk ever tried to cut Kaido, has Oden ever tried to cut him with Shusui?
Give Enma to Luffy and he wont do shit with it to Kaido. It 100% depends on the user.

Regarding the poll, depends how many votes you want to see. In this forum? Make a new thread and at the bottom you can add a poll. Somewhere else? Use Easypolls.com and post the link on reddit and wherever you want to get as many votes as you can.

People assume Zoro cant cut Kaido because Kaido's Haki is stronger than Zoro's Haki.
However, when has Kaido's Haki ever been mentioned? Not even once. It is about Kaido's scales, not about Kaido's Haki.
Enma is just a piece of metal, it doesnt allow Zoro to do anything that he wasnt able to do already.

 

[King Moe]

I havent seen those theories you speak of, better quote the people who said it.
However, there is one thing that for sure got destroyed, the headcanon that Zoro cant cut Kaido, something I have been saying for longer than a year.
Guess who was right about the sword demon in human form?

"Don't speak ill of Zoro."　-Eiichiro Oda, Niconico Live Broadcast (28 December 2011)

Again imagination won't save what you and others stating Zoro would be first to give him damage and again fail once more.

Also Zoro don't intervene in his Captain's fights. Headcannon fantasy won't become how you like when Luffy be one to beat Kaido and finish him. Don't back out cause you guys were wrong again. It same fault when you couldn't admit Zoro will get his sword stolen and knockout. Look what happen XD?

Never said that. Luffy I recall he said that, but never that as well stating 'Zoro's Arc' when it's actually Everyone's Arc especially for Luffy and Scabbards as shown. Just saying, but Zoro will get his fight with Orochi that's for sure .

 

[Ramen]

Zoro would be able to cut Kaido. Kaido isn't indestructible.

 

[King Moe]

Zoro would be able to cut Kaido. Kaido isn't indestructible.

Given his performance on Gifters and debunk he would 'Whiskey Peak' them, I wouldn't overhype on that especially Oda won't let Zoro outshine Luffy who wants Kaido for himself and be one to bring him down. Zoro won't get the chance given many tough enemies he is facing and Kaido is more aware on his surroundings now after latest chapter.

Though think Zoro get his spotlight in facing his tough opponents with a team behind him especially for YC lvl opponent.

 

[nik87]

For the second year in the row, the number one place goes to the great swordsman with 9.500+ votes!
Worldwide, Zoro is likely the most popular One Piece character.