Fantasy Zoro vs Marco

[LadyVados]

I guess Hawakins = Zoro, Sanji>Zoro, Kidd>Zoro, Perospero>Zoro etc. It's 2020 and people are using bounty to determine strength LMAO. I thought the community stopped doing that years ago.

The straw hats are people who are still growing. It's different comparing bounties between people who are in the developed stage of their career.

Also I think Oda was trying to tell us something with King's bounty

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Who said it's anything to be ashamed of? Point is, pretending that Zoro's feats against Kaido because of how his sword works with his haki & Oden's presence or whatever that is, means his attack power is insanely buffed is illogical. Zoro scarring Kaido with Enma and Asura to a lesser extent than Oden doesn't translate to Zoro having amazing attack power to easily beat a YC1 as we're seeing right now. His purgatory onigiri with Enma couldn't harm King anymore than Sanji's Mouton Shot hurt Hybrid Queen.

And Marco didn't hold off Big Mom. His fire was a counter to hers and the minute that was nullified she grabbed him and he was in danger.

Neither Marco nor King are able to actually hold off emperors.

There is no evidence that current Zoro is stronger than or will beat Marco in a fight since Marco is portrayed as stronger than King even if it's marginally and he is hyped as admiral leveled in the databooks.

That's all I'm saying on this matter.

He beat Marco. There's your proof.

Is Marco a weakling or is he admiral level. Make up your mind SMH.

Didn't know grabbing someone is the same as beating them. I guess Hajruddin > Luffy now.

There is no evidence for your theory that Enma only works on Kaido and not on anyone else. In fact there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.

If even Akainu and Big Mom couldn't beat a YC1 easily why is Zoro not beating one easily a bad thing. SMH.

 

[A$APBog]

The straw hats are people who are still growing. It's different comparing bounties between people who are in the developed stage of their career.

Also I think Oda was trying to tell us something with King's bounty

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He beat Marco. There's your proof.

Is Marco a weakling or is he admiral level. Make up your mind SMH.

Didn't know grabbing someone is the same as beating them. I guess Hajruddin > Luffy now.

There is no evidence for your theory that Enma only works on Kaido and not on anyone else. In fact there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.

If even Akainu and Big Mom couldn't beat a YC1 easily why is Zoro not beating one easily a bad thing. SMH.

Wait what ?
Since when Marco was beaten by King ?
The last interaction they had was Marco parying the flame of King and saying
"There I'm done, my job is over now. Bye"

 

[AmitDS]

He beat Marco. There's your proof.

With help so there's your proof lmao!

Is Marco a weakling or is he admiral level. Make up your mind SMH.

So you think King and Queen can't bother an admiral and King can't beat one after? Ok.

Didn't know grabbing someone is the same as beating them. I guess Hajruddin > Luffy now.

"Grabbing" isn't all he did lmao but yeah the grabbing both of them did make them look worse.

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There is no evidence for your theory that Enma only works on Kaido and not on anyone else. In fact there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.

Can you explain why Enma isn't letting him overwhelm King rn? Too bad,I never said that it only works on Kaido. Lol! You're the one trying to claim that because he scarred Kaido he is above Marco and even King though he's struggling with King right now. Do you need to re-read or? You guys are so insecure when someone questions Zoro. Lol scarring Kaido to a lesser extent than Oden did, with his best move then giving up, doesn't make him stronger than Marco.

If even Akainu and Big Mom couldn't beat a YC1 easily why is Zoro not beating one easily a bad thing. SMH.

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Actually Big Mom handled Marco quite easily unlike King. And please don't compare Zoro to Big Mom. First Big Mom = King and now Zoro = Big Mom? Are you okay?

And when did Zoro beat a YC1 'easy'? Is he doing that rn? Which chapter? Because last time I checked he's still fighting King while Big Mom overwhelmed Marco in one page and Kaido one shot Luffy in early Wano. I'm not sure why these false equivalencies are being used and what you're getting at.

 

[afromarco005]

Call me out for... stating facts? Not sure I get your logic.

Did you know if you add potatoes to a meal it removes the salt? Try eating potatoes, homie.

That's a good one

 

[Crimson Ice]

The straw hats are people who are still growing. It's different comparing bounties between people who are in the developed stage of their career.

Also I think Oda was trying to tell us something with King's bounty

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He beat Marco. There's your proof.

Is Marco a weakling or is he admiral level. Make up your mind SMH.

Didn't know grabbing someone is the same as beating them. I guess Hajruddin > Luffy now.

There is no evidence for your theory that Enma only works on Kaido and not on anyone else. In fact there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.

If even Akainu and Big Mom couldn't beat a YC1 easily why is Zoro not beating one easily a bad thing. SMH.

No, bounties have always been a rough danger level indirctor. Bounties have NEVER been a power level. Oda wasn't telling us anything, you want to say King is stronger than Marco to make Zoro look better when he beats him.

 

[LadyVados]

Big Mom overwhelmed Marco in one page and Kaido one shot Luffy in early Wano. I'm not sure why these false equivalencies are being used and what you're getting at.

This is a flat out lie.

We haven't even seen King's hybrid and Marco had help too.

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Wait what ?
Since when Marco was beaten by King ?
The last interaction they had was Marco parying the flame of King and saying
"There I'm done, my job is over now. Bye"

He literally had to be carried away while King is fine.

 

[A$APBog]

This is a flat out lie.

We haven't even seen King's hybrid and Marco had help too.

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He literally had to be carried away while King is fine.

I mean now that I'm looking at it, it's true that he wasn't standing up litteraly 1 page before and that he had to be carried away because he was not able to do it himself, not because he was spacing out nor because he was introduced as a laid back individual since his very first apparition.

Moreover, you're again perfectly right and not omiting any additional massively powerful opponents he had to face while fighting King.

I'm kind of cornered right now and have to admit a last time that I can't argue with someone speaking only genuine and unbiased facts.

 

[AmitDS]

This is a flat out lie.

We haven't even seen King's hybrid and Marco had help too.

Oh you're still here?

Lol! Kaido beat Luffy in one shot. The only attack that he landed on Luffy, after he let Luffy get some hits in, had beaten Luffy. What are you talking about?

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Um? The minute he countered Prometheus she grabbed him so yeah she overwhelmed as in overpowered him, in app 1 page.

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Oh and please stop lying, yourself. Marco had no help against King while King had Queen helping him tire out Marco before King and Marco were in a 1v1. We also don't know if this was Marco's hybrid form and if King used his off panel since a chunk of their fight was off panel and King went between his 2 currently known forms on panel thus far.


It's even mentioned by onlookers that Marco ran out of stamina which further supports that this is how he 'lost' as opposed to King overpowering him with his skill and power purely.

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[Grandmaster Woro]

Bounty doesn't lie kekw.

Didn't know that 320M was over 1.374B...

In fact, you can say the same for Luffy v. Crocodile, Luffy v. Arlong, Zoro v. Daz Bones etc.

The enemies have settled their bounties for a long time, while the 320M was the bounty received after not even one week in new world. Your straw man arguments fail.

It's 2020 and people are using bounty to determine strength LMAO. I thought the community stopped doing that years ago.

tell that to sanji fandom bashing at zoro's bounty then, didn't see you saying anything there

 

[LadyVados]

I mean now that I'm looking at it, it's true that wasn't standing up litteraly 1 page before and that he had to be carried away because he was not able to do it himself, not because he was spacing out nor because he was introduced as a laid back individual since his very first apparition.

Moreover, you're again perfectly right and not omiting any additional massively powerful opponents he had to face while fighting King.

I'm kind of cornered right now and have to admit a last time that I can't argue with someone speaking only genuine and unbiased facts.

Big Mom fight was 20 chapters ago, this is a Shonen manga.

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Lol! Kaido beat Luffy in one shot. The only attack that he landed on Luffy, after he let Luffy get some hits in, had beaten Luffy. What are you talking about?

PIS

 

[A$APBog]

The enemies have settled their bounties for a long time, while the 320M was the bounty received after not even one week in new world. Your straw man arguments fail.


tell that to sanji fandom bashing at zoro's bounty then, didn't see you saying anything there

It's your argument, not mine. You've just proved that bounty do lies so at this point I don't really know what to say to you mate, except let you talking

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Big Mom fight was 20 chapters ago, this is a Shonen manga.

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PIS

Big Mom fight was 20 chapters ago, this is a Shonen manga.

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PIS

Therefore after 20 chapters in a shonen manga, your damages are canceled ? I didn't knew that. Thanks for the info

 

[LadyVados]

It's your argument, not mine. You've just proved that bounty do lies so at this point I don't really know what to say to you mate, except let you talking

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I didn't knew that 20 chapters were enough to cancel the damages done to a character.

Therefore after 20 chapters in a shonen manga, your damages are canceled ? I didn't knew that. Thanks for the info

Yes they are

 

[AmitDS]

Big Mom fight was 20 chapters ago, this is a Shonen manga.

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PIS

Cope.

 

[XXGenesis]

I vote Zoro. Zoro used multiple attacks after blocking 2 Yonkou’s…His damage output is YC1+….I’m voting for Zoro to outlast Marco.

Marco was impressive but it sucks that King & Queen don’t have much damage on them compared to the Healing Marco.

 

[john ellis]

Zoro has higher attack power feats, and Marco has better tank feats. It’s pretty even, Marco can probably win the game of endurance though

 

[Crimson Ice]

The enemies have settled their bounties for a long time, while the 320M was the bounty received after not even one week in new world. Your straw man arguments fail.


tell that to sanji fandom bashing at zoro's bounty then, didn't see you saying anything there

Nobody seriously uses Sanji's bounty to say he's stronger than Zoro. Get a grip.

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Oh yeah, the current chapter solidified my Marco pick. Zoro stans were acting like if you weren't a Yonko you'd get washed by him, that's clearly not the case.

 

[XXGenesis]

I voted Zoro. But honestly, seeing How King just overpowered him. Despite Zoro cutting his mask horns, the. Damaging his mask….

Zoro would fight back but Marco is going to take the win.

 

[grey matter]

Marco used his flames to help thousands of allied soldiers, fought King and Queen alone like forever, and is still up and running. The only reason he stepped back was because he wants the strawhats to take the spotlight.

Marco also fought Kizaru well, and matched an attack from angry Akainu.

He's the closest (non-Yonko) character we have to admiral level, apart from current Luffy who may even be admiral level now.

I think it's fair to say that Marco is a decent margin above King, maybe he mid-high diff King

Zoro will extreme diff King (prediction).

So IMO, Marco wins high diff against Zoro

 

[LadyVados]

and is still up and running.

He is literally being carried around...

 

[grey matter]

He is literally being carried around...

Yeah, cause he's spacing around and getting flashbacks. He blocked king's attack the previous chapter, after which he showed no signs of damage from it.
He can fight if he wants to, but chooses not to, literally siting the reason that it's because he wants the strawhats to take the spotlight