Discussion Power Advancements

[Razh]

Zoro already showing his elemental attack when he fought Ryuma (Ittoryu Hiryu Kaen). If only that attack only a move Ryuma won't be burned and lost his shadow. It's somekind of holy fire I guess, and he's doing it with his oldest sword (Wadou Ichimoji)

That wasn't a holy power.
It shows that Zoro's slash was so fast that it caused burning. I'm not familiar with why is fire blue in some situations (something to do with electrons), but you can be sure that Zoro didn't use some "holy slash" to cut Ryuuma.

Speaking of elemental blades; water, ice and fire.
I think we're jumping a little overboard with this aura thing, as if it's like The Force from Star Wars. Besides, should Zoro use all three blades at once, ice would just freeze the water, and then got melted by fire and turned to water again. He might as well carry a barrel filled with water on his back.

 

[toxun]

Then how come Ryuuma lost Brooke shadows? If only that just a normal slash, at least if only his sword is heated because of quick draw that won't make Ryuuma lost that shadows. If only that is the aftermath I think it won't last so long (electron=electricity?). Seemed it just an advance sword form. First form is cutting solid metal, second slashing soul, but I can't imagine which one is the third. Knowing that Zoro some kind of force sensitive (did I took from starwars :-p)

 

[Razh]

As for electrons, try wikipedia. I don't make shit up.
Ryuuma's body was all dry so it wasn't really hard to make it burn.
In any case, this is more likely than Zoro having a hidden ghost buster power...

As for shadow, it returned to Brook because Ryuuma's body was destroyed.
In any case, that is more likely than Zoro putting some salt on his blade (really...). First of all, that's not the way Zoro fights. And second, the way Zoro swings his katanas, how long would that salt remain on the blade.

 

[OP_overlord]

i dont know how but luffy and crew need another power up soon because they are getting destroyed by the new world.

 

[winddial]

That wasn't a holy power.
It shows that Zoro's slash was so fast that it caused burning. I'm not familiar with why is fire blue in some situations (something to do with electrons), but you can be sure that Zoro didn't use some "holy slash" to cut Ryuuma.

Blue fire is especially hot, and weak in soot particles. Normally it forms where semi-burned fuel (carbon monoxide) reacts with air oxygen.

But that kind of science is a bit off-topic here...

 

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[Razh]

Lol, it wasn't unexpected.

I think we should expect Luffy to at least learn some practical uses of Haki. First, Shanks gave a hint of it when he came to Moby Dick. Then Luffy was shown using it passively. Now we have Roger's first mate who uses it with ease and fights evenly with an admiral.

Don't know if Haki allows him to hurt a logia user. It's not yet excluded that Rayleigh has a DF too. Still, cut Kizaru with his sword. I'm inclined to believe that he dampens DF of his enemy. Hell, maybe Oda was fucking with us with that whole "fist of love" crap. Garp is someone who could easilly be able to use Haki too. When he punched Luffy, it was like Luffy wasn't even a rubberman.
But that's beside the point now.

Last time Luffy lost against someone, he figured he needs to become stronger, and made a tremendous advancement in his strenght and skill.
Lately, it only becomes harder for him from battle to battle. I think we can expect a new upgrade soon enough.

 

[Yans86]

Now that they r scattered,I hope that Sanji learn at least Geppou to get back on the island....

 

[Dark_Pirate_King]

well i think that the biggest upgrade for luffy would be that he could fight with gears whitout the side effects..and haki will be obvious..

and for brooke hmmm if he drinks three bottles of milk his bones will become as hard as diamond

 

[Riku]

Well, Brooke's weakest point for now seems to be lack of stamina, as shown in the FFR raid. So if he runs on top of water all the way back to Shabondy (well, maybe with few breaks), that could be the next power up for him. It would greatly increase both his stamina and speed. Maybe he even could learn some running techniques, similar to ones Sena uses in Eyeshield 21 perhaps.

 

[RobinotX]

He made a joke, brother.

But what is Gepou?

And my power advancement for Brook... Some kind of Voodoo song so he can manipulate his bones like Bara Bara ^^

 

[Razh]

Geppou is that air bouncing thing that members of CP9 do.

Usopp could use some highly destructive ammo.

 

[RobinotX]

Ah that..

Franky would get upgrades.. maybe Dial upgrades?

 

[monkey D luffy]

there is one technique luffy didnt learn from his enemies: mantra.
if he learns how to use mantra he can be pretty much unbeatable so im guessing he will not learn it but i really hope he does.

 

[Tsukisama]

there is one technique luffy didnt learn from his enemies: mantra.
if he learns how to use mantra he can be pretty much unbeatable so im guessing he will not learn it but i really hope he does.

I don't really want Luffy to learn mantra as it does not seem to fit well his fighting style. That said, I would like to see someone in the SH crew learn mantra. Mantra was an awesome ability, and it would be a shame for it not to be seen again. I am not sure whether or not I would like to see it on any of the current Mugiwara pirates, but it would be a nice feature on a new member.

 

[BlackHair]

I believe Mantra is sth u will gain with ur birth. I don't think it can be learned. So far as I remember.. I will check the Manga later and edit my post.

 

[Imitorar]

I believe Mantra is sth u will gain with ur birth. I don't think it can be learned. So far as I remember.. I will check the Manga later and edit my post.

No, I think that's only in Aisa's case, she was born with the ability. Other people can learn it. Enel probably developed it, aided with his Rumble Rumble Fruit powers, and taught it to the Priests. Maybe it was a common technique on Bilka, either way, I'm pretty sure it can be learnt.

 

[bittman]

Any possibly Mantra only even works in the sky sea. Who knows, it's a mysterious and mostly unexplained power at best and it really didn't fit Luffy. If anything, it fits Chopper who I think will actually be one of the few to pick up Haki with relative ease.

 

[Imitorar]

Any possibly Mantra only even works in the sky sea. Who knows, it's a mysterious and mostly unexplained power at best and it really didn't fit Luffy. If anything, it fits Chopper who I think will actually be one of the few to pick up Haki with relative ease.

Who said Mantra was unexplained? It would work fine on the Blue Sea, it's not limited to the sky at all. But you're right, it doesn't at all fit Luffy. He's never been about predicting his opponents moves, more about reacting to them. Chopper would probably take to Mantra best, but I don't know why you say he'll learn to use Haki with ease. I doubt Chopper has enough sheer focused willpower to use it to power up attacks. The way I see it, Haki fits Chopper about as well as Mantra fits Luffy. I'm doubting anybody but Luffy and Zoro use Haki. They're the ones who are most driven by ambition and willpower. Maybe Sanji, to complete the Monster Trio and keep him roughly equal with Zoro, but I don't think it would fit any of the other Straw Hats.

 

[uchiha-Kakashi]

Okay Luffy and the Straws hats almost died twice(from there wounds and because they didn't have their shadows) in their last big battle in thriller park. They barely took a few days to recover and now are back and active. We all know in the next 10 or 15 chapters they'll probably confronted by another one of the 7 pirates' team or an admiral's team. how do you believe in such a short time can they get stronger?

Zorro ist the strongest. he should be the captain.
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Zoro will beat KUMA for sure