Discussion Hunter x Hunter Hangout [00]

[Host Samurai]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

sorry i dont have link I have only read about it somewhere that is writen in some book that nefelpitou is male and netero was emision user

ah nevermind...no problem.

i think netero really wanted to finish it asap..
so the 1st attack should be his best..hmm

I think Netero wanted to judge Meruems power with his attack. Instead of finishing him off with one move.

 

[sharingan_kakashi]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

If thats the best Netero can do, its not much. a blunt attack wont work that well on an armored enemy. If he fired a piercing attack then i would believe he wants to kill him asap. it is much stronger than his Cannon but it doesnt strike me as a finishing move.
and i thought pitou was female because he looks like one, he looks like Kurapika and we know he is a she. but the translations lately all refer to him as he.

btw, anyone know why the King looks a lot like cell from DBZ?

 

[kewl0210]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

The king doesn't really look a ton like cell, he's just reminiscent because he also has that sorta body that looks like it's a "superior lifeform" sorta thing, that "evolved from a bug". he might've been insipred by Cell but they're pretty different, really. Besides that they're both green, and there's been only like 3 pictures of the king in color.

And people assumed that Nefelpitou was a boy for stupid reasons. It's because she uses "boku" to address herself and because in the data book it reffers to her with the pronoun "he" (kare). Though that pronoun is very rarely used in japanese and does not necessarily mean "male" like it does in english. The female version "kanojyo" also means "girlfriend" so it's not used much to mean "she", and as I said, they're not specific.
Also "boku" is a male way to reffer to yourself, but it's not used a whole lot, most characters use "ore". Often girls use it to sound tomboyish, which fits Nefelpitou's personality.

Also, there was one theory that "all the ants are male except the queen", but Hina is clearly shown to be female when they show her in the bath in chapter 261, and specifically says that she's a girl, which is why the nen-erasure is hard on her.

Plus a few chapters ago in the last 10-group Killua said Pitou looked "like a mother". Which makes little sense if she's a boy.
Also she looks feminine... has wide hits, big eyelashes, sort of a chest, etc...

And yet, people debate it on...

 

[hunter71485]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Also, there was one theory that "all the ants are male except the queen", but Hina is clearly shown to be female when they show her in the bath in chapter 261, and specifically says that she's a girl, which is why the nen-erasure is hard on her.

Right. Remember the generals themselves can start their own colonies if they want to. It was elaborated upon the infestation of the Genei Ryodan's homeland.

 

[ANBU4U]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

The king doesn't really look a ton like cell, he's just reminiscent because he also has that sorta body that looks like it's a "superior lifeform" sorta thing, that "evolved from a bug". he might've been insipred by Cell but they're pretty different, really. Besides that they're both green, and there's been only like 3 pictures of the king in color.

And people assumed that Nefelpitou was a boy for stupid reasons. It's because she uses "boku" to address herself and because in the data book it reffers to her with the pronoun "he" (kare). Though that pronoun is very rarely used in japanese and does not necessarily mean "male" like it does in english. The female version "kanojyo" also means "girlfriend" so it's not used much to mean "she", and as I said, they're not specific.
Also "boku" is a male way to reffer to yourself, but it's not used a whole lot, most characters use "ore". Often girls use it to sound tomboyish, which fits Nefelpitou's personality.

Also, there was one theory that "all the ants are male except the queen", but Hina is clearly shown to be female when they show her in the bath in chapter 261, and specifically says that she's a girl, which is why the nen-erasure is hard on her.

Plus a few chapters ago in the last 10-group Killua said Pitou looked "like a mother". Which makes little sense if she's a boy.
Also she looks feminine... has wide hits, big eyelashes, sort of a chest, etc...

And yet, people debate it on...

What are you talking about? That thing looks JUST like cell, from the helmet like dome, to the framed face to (most tellingly) the tail.

Identical? No.

Highly reminiscent? Yes.

To be frank though, the resemblance is such that I have a hard time taking it for coincidence. Yoshihiro is likely paying homage to Toriyama 's epic series with the king.

 

[dragonmas]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

To be frank though, the resemblance is such that I have a hard time taking it for coincidence. Yoshihiro is likely paying homage to Toriyama 's epic series with the king.

Maybe there's a hidden message that he wants stop hunter x hunter . Toriyama was forced to continue after the Frieza saga...
There are 2 traps in hxh (kurapika and killuas brother ) theres high posibilty that Nefelpitou is a trap ( I don't like traps I wish he were a she )

 

[sharingan_kakashi]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Illumi is a guy. Kurapika is a woman.

Well the King didnt have to be insect form. i mean the others are taken from other large mammals. And they were reminiscent of the animal they came from. Leo for example looks like a lion, the 3 generals look more human and the king. im not sure what he is supposed to be.there really is no animal that i know with a tail like that.

 

[Host Samurai]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Illumi is a guy. Kurapika is a woman.

I think he meant Kalluto instead of Illumi. And Kurapica is our pretty boy.

 

[Optimist]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

The king's tail is like a scorpion's tail...

 

[dragonmas]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I think he meant Kalluto instead of Illumi. And Kurapica is our pretty boy.

Illumi is not that girly by normal anime/manga standards but he is in hxh btw I meant Kalluto

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Well, I suppose the king would be far more resilient than the floor, so a palm against the floor really shouldn't hurt him that much. But if we consider that the floor is part of the planet, then Kannon is actually pressing him against a very large object against which he stands no chance. (lol) I hope this really hurt him a little, otherwise Netero won't stand a chance. And I still believe that this fight won't end due to raw power victory, but due to circunstances, due to the King's love for Kumagi and some sort of self sacrifice.

 

[Rock-Bird]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

What are you talking about? That thing looks JUST like cell, from the helmet like dome, to the framed face to (most tellingly) the tail.

Identical? No.

Highly reminiscent? Yes.

To be frank though, the resemblance is such that I have a hard time taking it for coincidence. Yoshihiro is likely paying homage to Toriyama 's epic series with the king.

I totally agree, in addition I’m sure it’s really not a coincidence. It has been said that Togashi is a huge fan of Toriyamas Masterpiece and as such I’m sure that everyone knowing both works would obviously notice that this King's resembling on Cell is by intention

I'm looking forward to Neteru's next attack. I'm just wondering why Zeno Zaoldyeck left, thought he was hired to kill the King?

 

[dragonmas]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I'm looking forward to Neteru's next attack. I'm just wondering why Zeno Zaoldyeck left, thought he was hired to kill the King?

Netero asked him to transport with his ability to the castle he wasn't hired

 

[Host Samurai]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Expect the unexpected because this chapter is EPIC!!!! With this chapter Togashi has exceeds himself....

Big thanks to kewl0210 for the translation

Spoiler: Chapter 289

Narrator: "Morau is aimed at once... but!?" [Could someone tell me what
the purpose of 振り is here... I've seen that so many times but it doesn't
seem to mean anything clear.]

ユピー「.........」
Yupi: "........"
　　　（消えた.......!!）
　　　(He disappeared.........!!!)

　HUNTERHUNTER
　No.289?条件
　No.289 Requirements

　　　【刃物に変えた自分の右手を見て】
　　　[He looks at his right hand which he'd changed into an edged tool.]

ユピー（血だ...!!）
Yupi: (Blood...!!)
　　　（.........どういう事だ？）
　　　(.........What is this?)
　　　（瞬間移動じゃなかったのか...？）
　　　(Was it instantaneous movement...?)
　　　（奴はオレが突き刺そうとした直前に消えた）
　　　(He disappeared just before I stabbed him)
　　　（オレは奴等の仲間にテレポート出来る奴がいると�
�っていたが）
　　　(I thought there was someone in their group that could teleport, but)
　　　（消える瞬間にも仲間は見えなかった!!）
　　　(At the moment he disappeared, I couldn't see an ally!!)
　　　（それ以前にテレポートなら消えた後に刺しても）
　　　(If he had teleported before then, I pricked him after he disappeared)
　　　（傷つけられるはずがない）
　　　(He shouldn't have gotten hurt.)
　　　（消えたのに刺せた...... 刺せたのに見えない...って事は）
　　　(Even though he disappeared, I stabbed him... I could stab him even
though I couldn't see him... is what happened.)
　　　（透明なだけ...!? 透ける能力か!!）
　　　(Just transparent...!? An ability to be transparent!!)
　　　（モラウ(ヤツ)にその能力があるならばとっくに使っ
ていたはず!!）
　　　(If Morau (That guy) had that technique, he would've used it a long
time ago!!)
　　　（つまり奴等の仲間に自分だけじゃなく仲間も透明�
�出来る奴がいて） 
　　　(Moreover, it's an ally that doesn't just make themselves transparent,
but can make others transparent, too)
　　　（オレが突き刺す直前にグラサンを助けようとした�
�
　　　(Right as I stabbed sunglasses, someone saved him.)
　　　（......が間に合わなかった!! ...って事だ!!）
　　　(...Not in time!! ....is what sorta thing it is!!)
　　　（傷は...... 深い...!!）
　　　(The wound...... is deep...!!)


　　　【地面についている血の跡に気付くユピー】
　　　[Yupi notices blood tracks on the ground]

メレオロン「.........」
Meleoron: "........."
　　　　　（来た!!）
　　　　　(He came!!)
　　　　　（血が!!ユピーに見えちまってる!!）
　　　　　(The blood!! Yupi can completely see it!!)
　　　　　（姿が見えなくても血だまりが目印!!）
　　　　　(Even if he can't see his form, the blood is an indication!!)
　　　　　（奴がもう一度剣を振り上げたら）
　　　　　(If he raises his sword again)
　　　　　（オレだけでも逃げなきゃ!!）
　　　　　(I can't even escape!!)
　　　　　（息も!!限界!!畜生ッッ!!）
　　　　　(Even breath!! Limit!! Shit--!!)

　　　【突然あさっての方向を見るユピー】
　　　[Yupi suddenly looks in their direction]

メレオロン「!?」
Meleoron: "!?"
　　　　　（ナックル!?なぜ出て来ちまったんだよ!?）
　　　　　(Knuckle!? Why did you come with me!?)
　　　　　（お前が今やらなきゃいけねーのは!!）
　　　　　(You can't go now!!)
　　　　　（一秒でも長く身を隠す事だろうが!!）
　　　　　(You need to hide your body even if it's one second longer!!)

ナックル「もう逃げも隠れもしねェ オレが相手だ」
Knuckle: "I'm not running or hiding anymore. I'm the opponent."
　　　　「だから」
　　　　"Therefore"
　　　　「見逃してやってくれ!!」
　　　　"You have to overlook it!!"

　　ナックルが拳ではなく言葉に賭けたのは
　　Knuckle bet not on his fist, on words.
　　ユピーの一言に己が揺さぶられたからであった
　　One word of Yupi's to himself was shaking because. [I really don't get
this part, but it doesn't seem important.]

ユピー「......」
Yupi: "......"
　　　「無茶苦茶だな 交換条件にすらなってねェ」
　　　"I'm confused, but don't try to be a bargaining chip."
　　　「答えはNoだ」
　　　"Ther answer is "No"." ["No" said in English.]
　　　「ただし」
　　　"However"
　　　「こいつを消せば話は別だ」
　　　"It'll be different if you make this guy disappear]

　　　【ポットクリン(370684)を指し示すユピー】
　　　[Yupi points to Potclean showing 370684.]

ユピー「逃げ回ってたのはこいつが関係してんだろ？」
Yupi: "Your running from place to place is connected to this guy, right?"
　　　「これが対等の条件ってもんだろ」
　　　"These are equivalent terms, right."

モラウ「やめ...ろ!!!」
Morau: "St...op!!!"
　　　「ナックル!!!ふざけんじゃねェぞ...!!」
　　　"Knuckle!!! Don't fool around...!!"

　　死力を絞ったモラウの叫びは〝神の共犯者〟で届かな�
�った
　　With a desperate effort, Morau's voice reached "God's Accomplice".
　　しかし
　　However
　　その声で我に返ったメレオロンは
　　That voice was returned to himself, Meleoron [Structure of this sentence
is weird. And it's difficult to visualize this situation for me... I dunno
where anybody is for sure... Who's still holding onto Meleoron?]
　　手を離しその場を去った
　　He let go of his hand and left that place.

モラウ「オレは...放っとけ.........!!」
Morau: "Leave... me behind.........!!"
メレオロン（だめだ!!!それだけはだめだ!!!ナックル!!!）
Meleoron: (This is bad!!! This is the only thing you can do wrong!!! Knuckle!
!!)
モラウ「か...ま....うな」
Morau: "Forget... about... me"
メレオロン（全てを!!無駄にする気かよ!!!）
Meleoron: (Everything!! It could be useless!!!)
モラウ「今まで........の...」
MorauL "Everything...... up until now..."
メレオロン(モラウの!!シュートの!!お前の!!)
Meleoron: (For Morau!! For Shoot!! For you!!)
　　　　　（命懸けの全て!!!）
　　　　　(The life and death of everything!!!)

　　　【瀕死のモラウに近寄るユピー】
　　　[Yupi approaches Morau on the verge of death]

　　「ナックルが思いとどまればまだ二人で戦える」
　　"If Knuckle's thoughts stay in place, he can still fight two people."
　　「そのためにはまだ姿を見せるわけにはいかない!!」
　　"Because of that, he can't show himself!!" [Who the hell's talking?
Who're they talking to?]
　　その思いでモラウから離れたメレオロンの判断は---
　　With those thoughts having let go of Morau, Knuckle's judgement was---

モラウ「ナックル...！」
Morau: "Knuckle...!"
メレオロン（ナックル!!!）
Meleoron: (Knuckle!!!)
　　　【剣を構えるユピー】
　　　[Yupi sets up his sword]

　　逆効果だった
　　It backfired
　　0:11:39:07

　　　【ポットクリンを解除するナックル】
　　　[Knuckle cancels Potclean]

ユピー「.......」
Yupi: "......"
メレオロン「.........馬鹿な...」
Meleoron: ".........No way..."
　　　　　（これで.......もう...ない）
　　　　　(With this......there's....nothing anymore)
モラウ「なぜ!!」
Morau: "Why!!"
　　　（ユピーを倒す術が!!）
　　　(The technique to beat Yupi!!)

　　血に染まったモラウの姿がシュートと重なり
　　The bloodstained Morau's form overlapped Shoot's.
　　ナックルの心を折った
　　Knuckle's heart broke


ナックル「さぁ......ポットクリンは解除したッ」
Knuckle: "Now... Potclean is rescinded."
　　　　「これで対等!!ボスは置いといて」
　　　　"Now it's equal! You said you'd leave boss."
　　　　「オレと勝負ッッッ オレを殺れ!!!」
　　　　"Win or lose with me --- Kill me!!!"
ユピー「やなこった」
Yupi: "I don't wanna."
ナックル「な...待てコラ!!」
Knucke: "Wha... Wait, HEY!!"
　　　　「どこ...行く気だ!?」
　　　　"Where... are you gonna go!?"
ユピー「あ？王のトコに決まってんだろうが」
Yupi: "Ah? I'm going to the king, of course."
　　　「お前もいっしょに来るか？」
　　　"Are you guys coming with me?"
　　　「無理だろバカが」
　　　"That's impossible, idiot."
ナックル「......」
Knuckle: "......"
　　　　「.........」
　　　　"........."
ユピー「そいつの能力 瞬間移動じゃねーんだろ」
Yupi: "That guy's ability isn't instantaneous movement, it seems."
メレオロン「ハッ」
Meleoron: "Hah."
ユピー「なら早く後ろの黒メガネ医者に運ばねーと」
Yupi: "Then good luck with getting black-glasses to a doctor."
　　　「交換条件の意味なくなるだろうが!!」
　　　"The meaning of the bargaining chip is gone!!"
ナックル「......」
Knuckle: "......"
ユピー「ちっ」
Yupi: "Hmph."

　　王の護衛を最優先とするなら三人とも この場で殺すべき
　　With protecting the king as the maximum priority, with these three,
he should kill them here.
　　理解していながらそれを実行しない自分に怒りとは異�
�の苛立ちを覚えてい
た
　　While understanding that, he did not execute it.To himself, his anger
was a different natured irritation. [These sorta narration sentences are
long, philosophical, and hard to understand.]

ユピー「問題ねェ!!」
Yupi: "There's no problem!!"
　　　「手前らみてェなザコ共 何度来ようがオレが蹴散らす!!」
　　　"Don't look, you weaklings. No matter how many times you come, I'll
kick you around!!"
　　　「何時でも来い その時は対等だと思ってやる」
　　　"Whenever you come that time will be equivalent."
　　　「今は殺るまでもねェ!! それだけの事だ!!」
　　　"I haven't killed you yet!! That's all!!"

　　　【王の元へ駆けて行くユピー】
　　　[Yupi gallops back to the king.]　　　

　　闘いの中で敵から教わった念能力の深遠
　　The nen ability he was taught by his enemy in the middle of the battle
was deep.
　　それは乏しかったユピーの〝個〟を大きく揺らし
　　That was the destitute Yupi's "individual" large jolt.
　　怒りを別個に蓄積する術を覚えた事で
　　The technique of focusing anger
　　冷えた感情は 逆に物事を単純に考えられなくさせていた
　　He had been made to not simply think that cold emotion was not simply
contrary to things.

ユピー（くそっ プフのが伝染った!!）
Yupi: (Damn, Pufu was contagious!!)
　　　「......」
　　　"......"
　　　（奴等を糧に溜めた怒りなのに何故だ）
　　　(To amass those guys as food, why)
　　　（奴等に向ける気がしないのは）
　　　(I don't face energy towards those guys)
　　　（オレは怒り(これ)を何に誰に放てばいい!?）
　　　(What, who, is right to release this anger onto!?)

　　これは成長なのかユピーにはわからなかった
　　That this was growth to adulthood, Yupi did not know.
　　しかしナックルは
　　But Knuckle was

ナックル（負けた...完全に...）
Knuckle: (I lost... completely...)

煽り「逃げ道なき敗北」
Narration: "No way out of being defeated."

 

[Phlemingo]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Expect the unexpected because this chapter is EPIC!!!! With this chapter Togashi has exceeds himself....

Big thanks to kewl0210 for the translation

on the contrary rather, supremely disappointed now.

 

[¬Bol]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Pics (Thanks to Kheops):

Spoiler

 

[Host Samurai]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

on the contrary rather, supremely disappointed now.

Are you serious? With this new development I don't even know what Togashi has in store for us. It can only get better, you should have more faith in Togashi.

 

[Oni_James]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

waah! totally didn't expect that coming! i mean, all that time waiting, all those seconds wasted, Shoot battle, everything

Spoiler

and now he cancells potclean and when Knuckle knows he has to leave the battle because of their condition when they were so close, he has a big feeling of not being able to do anything to stop yupi

so EPIC!

 

[sharingan_kakashi]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

wow so many things happening. i dont get why Knuckle would cancel potclean when he is so close to his goal.
And is Morau inside the dimensional castle thing too?

Thanks for the Translation!!


wait hold on a sec. Kalluto is not a little girl??

 

[Luckas]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

As far as I remember Killua has only brothers and Kurapica is male.