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Match Akutsu vs Kirihara

Who would kill the other first?


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Fayte

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Who would win?

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At present Kirihara would definitely have the upper hand.

Akutsu certainly has a far higher ceiling than Kirihara, however. I could definitely see Akutsu crushing Kirihara once he's progressed a little further, but based on his level the last time we saw him, he wouldn't be ready just yet.
 

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We can't judge based on the present Kirihara, and the past Akutsu when he faced Echizen in Kantou. We have to assume Akutsu is now the same skill as all the other players. Otherwise he wouldn't have been invited to the U-17 camp. Zaizen wasn't invited, but Akutsu was. That has to say something.
 

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We can't judge based on the present Kirihara, and the past Akutsu when he faced Echizen in Kantou. We have to assume Akutsu is now the same skill as all the other players. Otherwise he wouldn't have been invited to the U-17 camp. Zaizen wasn't invited, but Akutsu was. That has to say something.
Creating the present day Akutsu would be hard because we don't know anything new about his repertoire and we haven't seen any real indication of how he may have grown even if we assume he has grown. I would love to see these two have a match, but judging based on what he have seen from each, I say Kirihara would win but Akutsu looks like he has much more potential.
 

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We can't judge based on the present Kirihara, and the past Akutsu when he faced Echizen in Kantou. We have to assume Akutsu is now the same skill as all the other players. Otherwise he wouldn't have been invited to the U-17 camp. Zaizen wasn't invited, but Akutsu was. That has to say something.
Sure, he's probably gotten better now, but we don't know how much.

Until we see how Akutsu has progressed, it would be difficult to say anything conclusive about this match.
 

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It's all about the style of play that can be predicted.
 

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Akutsu and Kirihara ??
This match will be Bloody. The Red Kirihara would win this match but may be Akutsu will comes up with Mugo no Kyuchi lol who knows
 
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Seeing as Akutsu was bested by a Ryoma who forgot how to return a serve...I'm still giving the edge to Kirihara, Almost bested Fuji, Unlocked Muga, can copy techniques as well addding various snake shots to his arsenal
 

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That's like saying Horio could beat Tezuka because Tezuka sucked at tennis when he was 4 years old. Therefore, Horio now, could beat a 4 year old Tezuka.
 

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It depends on both the rule of drama and the rule of popularity.
Who is more popular in Japan?
And it depends who starts losing.
Whoever starts losing has a 90% of chance of making a comeback.

But based on their styles, I'd say Akutsu.

The guy who can attack from any angle vs the guy who tries to hurt his opponents.

Kirihara's style is to hit his opponents in their weak spots. Akutsu has no weak spots. He seems to have an advantage, as long as we assume they are on the same level and their only difference is their style.
 

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Your confusing Anime Akaya with Manga Akaya, Manga Akaya is a damn Sadist, he doesn't hit a weak spot persay he just doesn't want you to move, which is whjy he kept attacking Ryoma's knee

All in all they are both Aggressive baseliners so it comes down to court coverage except Akaya's pretty damn fast himself

If you must know

Akaya was 27 in the last popularity poll, Akutsu was 43
 

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When it comes to court coverage, nobody is better than Akutsu. Not Kenya, not even Kite.
 

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When it comes to court coverage, nobody is better than Akutsu. Not Kenya, not even Kite.
Says who? when was this ever stated? hell when was the comparison ever made?

Akutsu comes from the period of the manga i like to call...the "Realistic portion", his court coverage was due to his ability to slide all over a hardcourt...which isn't impossible, just youtube Gael Monfils' Slide and see that there is an actual tennis player known for it

Kenya...idk he's just faster than Kamio, Shukuchi is a whole different ball game

If it's stated that Akutsu's court coverage surpasses a Shukuchi user then whatever, until then there's really not proof that it does
 

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Says who? when was this ever stated? hell when was the comparison ever made?

Akutsu comes from the period of the manga i like to call...the "Realistic portion", his court coverage was due to his ability to slide all over a hardcourt...which isn't impossible, just youtube Gael Monfils' Slide and see that there is an actual tennis player known for it

Kenya...idk he's just faster than Kamio, Shukuchi is a whole different ball game

If it's stated that Akutsu's court coverage surpasses a Shukuchi user then whatever, until then there's really not proof that it does
You don't need someone saying "Akutsu is faster than a Shukuchi user" to see that he is. The Skukuchi was just an illusion, which is why it was defeated. Akutsu is actually moving that fast around the court, which is the difference.
 

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However it's important to note that part of the reason the illusion worked was the speed of the user.

The shukuchi illusion was instantaneous movement, not fast movement. The illusion was created by using the same starting and ending position of the head and the low charge to stay out of the opponents view so that they would only see the starting and ending position, hence the illusion. It still depends on tremendous court speed.

At this point we simply cannot say for certain who could cover the court better Akutsu or Kite. Stating that Akustu's movement is definitively better than Kite's is entirely subjective. That may be what you see, it isn't anywhere close to any definition of fact. These hypothetical battles are just that.

Although I find that battle particularly intriguing. Their both martial artists with tremendous physical capabilities. So I think that would be a great match.
 
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It may be an illusion but they were still fast, Hirakoba was able to go from the net to the baseline before Higuma Otoshi even had the chance to land

Eishiro got to the Zero shiki dropshot before it even landed

You don't need someone saying "Akutsu is faster than a Shukuchi user" to see that he is
And yea...you do...last i checked you weren't "Word of God" (aka Konomi Takeshi)

At this point we simply cannot say for certain who could cover the court better Akutsu or Kite
Pretty much
 
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"Eishiro got to the Zero shiki dropshot before it even landed"

A much better example than that is his very next shot where he retrieved a smash that Tezuka hit to the complete opposite side of the court.
 

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"Eishiro got to the Zero shiki dropshot before it even landed"

A much better example than that is his very next shot where he retrieved a smash that Tezuka hit to the complete opposite side of the court.
Your right, i didn't even think of that, most player try to get a dropshout at least after it bounces but he got there before it landed, and he was all the way on the baseline
 
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