Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[predsfan]

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Aside from Hoopmen being last as per the usual, I like this bottom 5 much more than the recent ones. The only series I care about in the bottom 5 is Hoopmen, but I've already come to terms with the invevitatable cancellation.

Oh, and One Piece color and cover next issue, what could be better (well, aside from that rumor of Mago being cancelled being 100% false).

 

[Kaiten]

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Psyren is ok, as it is known for it's yo-yo properties, but Bakuman isn't so much, considering that the ranking before the colour page showed signs of dropping, so this only supports the trend. I guess the next ranking will either prove or crush any worries considering this trend.

Bakuman already outsells To Love Ru and Eyeshield. There's nothing to worry about for any reason. Really, no series is on the block now with Eyeshield ending and Hoop presumably to follow soon. Next round of cuts won't be till late August, early September.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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Bakuman will bounce back up. All series are doing a lot of jumping now. Way too many hits and mid-tier new series all at once. It screws up the equilibrium.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I think for a while their going to be two new series a time, not three new series, because every series in Jump is damn realy good. I think next two new series are high possibility to be cushion for the current series.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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I look forward to when we start seeing series like Sket Dance, Psyren, Toriko, etc. getting animes. It'll be like seeing our little babies all grown up. Brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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As kaiten said no need to worry about bakuman, it's selling very highly, and the only new manga That rival it's sales is mago and toriko(maybe)

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Does anybody know whether Bakuman's tankouban sold over 1,000,000 copies or not?

 

[Finestela]

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Does anybody know whether Bakuman's tankouban sold over 1,000,000 copies or not?

I'm not sure what you're trying to ask... the total or per volume?
Currently, Bakuman is in the 350k+ per volume range, so the answer is no for the the per volume sales.

However, since it is in the 350k+ range, then yes, it's very likely for it to break the 1 million total copy sales mark with volume 3.

P.S. the 350k per volume figure is from Oricon.. meaning the actual sales could be higher, since Oricon doesn't include ALL the bookstores in Japan. It's used because it's one of the most accurate figure and detailed tracking data we have.

As kaiten said no need to worry about bakuman, it's selling very highly, and the only new manga That rival it's sales is mago and toriko(maybe)

Mago and Toriko are excpetional at the moment, but still not on par with Bakuman in sales.

Mago is in the 100k+ per volume range, while Toriko is 150k+.
Bakuman is currently at 350k+ per volume as of volume 2, meaning Bakuman sells more than Mago and Toriko combine

 

[M-Hario]

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Bakuman's big sells is the big reason to don't worry for it.

Even If one week is in b5, probably next week it'll be in the middle of the ToC or in better position.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Does anyone know that is there any plan for Mago's popular character poll? It's been over 1 year, but there is no news for character poll, unlike Psyren. I'm starting to worry about Mago because if Mago have a character poll, that means mago will safe for about another year. But if there is no news about character poll.............I don't want to think about it.

 

[Kaiten]

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Remember, Bakuman has Obata's name behind it. His involvement boosted interest in volume 1, and unlike Ral Grad, Bakuman is so good the initial buzz was sustained and built on.

I look forward to when we start seeing series like Sket Dance, Psyren, Toriko, etc. getting animes. It'll be like seeing our little babies all grown up. Brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

Sket is getting a drama CD. Pretty rare for one of those not to lead to an anime. I'd be shocked, if it didn't debut in October. 24 episodes and late night, of course.

 

[Finestela]

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Does anyone know that is there any plan for Mago's popular character poll? It's been over 1 year, but there is no news for character poll, unlike Psyren. I'm starting to worry about Mago because if Mago have a character poll, that means mago will safe for about another year. But if there is no news about character poll.............I don't want to think about it.

Not really... character poll are not an indication whether it'll last another year or not. Case in point, Taizo and Yuushagaku.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Compare to Magazine and Sunday, Jump doesn't have lots of sport series. Eyeshield21 is going to end in next issue, Hoopmen looks going to cnacel in matter of times, and it's not sure whether Kuroko can be successful as Tennis no Oujisama or Eyeshield21. Is it just Magazine and SUnday has too many sport series or just Jump has too little sport series? Is it little difficult for sport manga to be hit in Jump as compare to mainstream battle manga?

 

[Kaiten]

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It's hard to say but it would appear Jump readers just don't like sports :/

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Magazine has more sports series than Sunday or Jump if I remember right so its more like the king in that area. Jump just has too little sports series in comparison after next issue.

It will only be one in Kuroko...which isn't on the level of Eyeshield or Prince of Tennis were yet. I'm actually not sure if it will ever be THAT good. Plus, Jump is doing a lot to try and support it so that gives it a boost above other series.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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At this point, kuroko won't reach POT or es 21 level. It's better than hoop men but not by a large margin

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Magazine has seven sport series (boxing, basketball, soccer, two baseball, badminton, and tennis) and Sunday has four sport series (three baseball and golf). It is sad to see that Kuroko has to compete with these sport series, especially with Ahiru no Sora (both are about basketball).

Jump has above their sales compare to Magazine and Sunday, but for now, Jump will never beat Magazine against sport series, not even Sunday.

 

[Kaiten]

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While both are called shonen, Jump and Magazine have completely different audiences. They barely qualify as direct competitors. Most of Jump's audience, about 85 %, is between 9 and 17. About 80% of Magazines readers are 20 or older. Kuroko and Ahiru (a much, much better series) will never have to compete for readers.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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I may be a little bias but Jump does not really have to worry about its sports "problem." Sure they may not have many, but when they do they turn out to be PoT, Slam Dunk, and Eyeshield. Probably the most popular series in their respective sports of all time (I don't think Eyeshield has any competition) so I guess Jump inherently goes for quality rather than quantity...


A little off topic, but how do monthly series like Jump SQ determine a series popularity? Is is based off of volume sales or fan letters or something?

 

[Kaiten]

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A little off topic, but how do monthly series like Jump SQ determine a series popularity? Is is based off of volume sales or fan letters or something?

From what I understand, and I could be wrong, it's the same criteria. Fan response via the post cards and tankobon sales. Jump is the only magazine that cancels so quickly and adds so many new series. It's circulation is also much, much higher then most magazines; so what constitutes a hit is a much different thing.

The only anthologies I've ever heard of that don't care that much about fan response are the 1st Day magazines.