Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Does anyone knows the ranking of last 10 chapters for Mx0? I'm still worried about the rumor, about cancelation of Mago. Despite of how ranking for two consecutive weeks, I'm afraid Mago getting same fate as Mx0.

I think we can drop the Mago cancellation rumor at some point. It sells well, is polling better, and there will not be any more series canceled for at least two months. If you really want to look at old TOC's head to the Live Journal. It goes back to at least 2005.

 

[Finestela]

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From the looks of it... I don't really see how Shueisha is going to find something to cut for the next batch...

I mean with Mago and Sket going up and down, Psyren barely out of reach, Medaka staying stable in the middle, TLR safe for a long time... The only thing in any remote danger is Akaboshi, but its pre-8 week performed well (meaning the snap polling was good)...

Unless one or two of the new series crash-and-burn, I just don't see how they're going to cut anything (for now).

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Does anyone knows the ranking of last 10 chapters for Mx0? I'm still worried about the rumor, about cancelation of Mago. Despite of how ranking for two consecutive weeks, I'm afraid Mago getting same fate as Mx0.

The final 10 chapters? They were mostly near the bottom:

Ch#	90	91	92	93	94	95	96	97	98	99
ToC	19  	14  	19  	5  	21  	12  	16  	11  	20  	20

As far as your concern goes, Mx0 dipped last place multiple times, but Mago never really dipped that low (as far as I can recall).

 

[SameOld]

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Unless one or two of the new series crash-and-burn, I just don't see how they're going to cut anything (for now).

If the one-shot is any indication, Kagijin is 100% guaranteed to crash-and-burn. The one-shot is so boring and generic it makes me wonder why they even let it get published in first place. I don't know about the other two, but I can't imagine anything having to die for Kagijin to survive. It's that bad.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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So whats that new series about? I havent heard much about it.

 

[[Cross]]

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Lingwe posted the raw and translation:

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/details/38089
http://mangahelpers.com/t/lingwe/releases/13652

I wasn't too impressed, but it probably stands a chance of survival.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

I meant Ane doki.

 

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Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Oh,

Spoiler

Quick trans of the preview by Mr.Prince:

Do you like an ecchi/a sexy older sister?
It's the heart-beating start of a new life!!

Open a new door of heart-beating! The key to this excitement lies in those hands!!

Kouta who finds himself suddenly living a single life is completely at loss, when there appears someone right before his eyes...a mysterious "Onee-san". [Of course it's "elder sister" but you can call any teenage girl "onee-san"]

Kouta, a young boy who's cohabitating with a mysterious Onee-san!?

So basically a guy/older girl scenario.

 

[Drmke]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Ane Doki looks to be probably just alright. I'm not expecting to be blown away with it and it become my new favorite series but maybe it will last longer then Hatsukoi.

As for Kagijin, the one-shot was ok. It wasn't bad and I could see it lasting 5 or 6 volumes, but for it to last over the 10 volume mark, I think the author is gonna need to change a few things around and make it more interesting.

And since I still don't really know anything on the gag, I will just say cannon fodder for the other series at the moment.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Only thing that seems to interest me right now is that Sket is top five once again and Mago is higher than it has been...oh, and another OP break, obviously.

I know I know the rules regarding rankings and such but at the same time this is what makes me get turned off by the fandom in Japan. Whenever they vote for something to rank it, it usually are the Bleach fans (the more hyperactive types) than the Gintama ones. Sorachi's been doing some incredible stuff and it just doesn't feel right that this takes a beating...while Bleach acts generic and gets high ranking and an anime that really shoud have ended by now. I know some of what's going on, I just don't like it.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

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About the ranking thing, I'm hearing conflicting thoughts.

The order is decided every week by the Jump sub-chief editor from what we know. It's just a 2ch rumor that the popularity cards play a direct role in his decision at all. Probably, the order is jumbled among the more popular manga sometimes so One Piece isn't always #1 or #2. It's probably the same for the back number of manga, save Jaguar of course. Also, the sub-chief editor will sometimes push specific manga during a week for whatever reason.

Obviously, though, there is some correspondence between popularity and the ToC, but it's not necessarily specific to the cards from eight weeks ago. The sub-chief editor puts popular manga nearer the front and less popular manga near the back. And he knows which manga are popular and which are not based on the cards, so I can see it coming in that way.

So there might not really be a problem with the fandom of Japan.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Ha, has to make you wonder that if it is true we can partially blame the sub-chief editor for all the unwarranted Bleach color and placement.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Whenever they vote for something to rank it, it usually are the Bleach fans (the more hyperactive types) than the Gintama ones. Sorachi's been doing some incredible stuff and it just doesn't feel right that this takes a beating...while Bleach acts generic and gets high ranking and an anime that really shoud have ended by now. I know some of what's going on, I just don't like it.

Are you sure this is not just your personal bias speaking?

 

[Ronin88]

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Yea hate to say it but it does sound bias.

For me personally i like bleach more than gintama and naruto. Don't know why i just do for some reason. One Piece and Bleach are my favourites.

Speaking of One Peice, sux how its taking a break...

 

[[Cross]]

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If you want to be literal, and anything that is opinionated is bias, therefore everything you guys just said is biased and shouldn't be treated as truth, so arguing that Ataru's words are biased to discredit his opinion is wrong. Anyways, I personally think that Bleach's longevity isn't really hurting Gintama. It's the new span of new series that are jumping into the fray, and just because Gintama's rank is lower than usual doesn't mean it's any less appreciated. Also, think about the fanbase, bleach appeals to a younger crowd, which is the main target of WSJ while Gintama appeals to an older audience. It just so happens that the former is larger in number than the latter.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

If you want to be literal, and anything that is opinionated is bias, therefore everything you guys just said is biased and shouldn't be treated as truth, so arguing that Ataru's words are biased to discredit his opinion is wrong.

That was not my intention at all. It simply seems that his dislike of Bleach is the sole reason for his comment. He could have said Naruto or One Piece but he only puts down Bleach. And I like Gintama very much. And it's obviously okay to prefer one series to another but just because you want to support Gintama does not mean Bleach has to be worthless.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Ughh...more ecchi?

 

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Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Ughh...more ecchi?

Well, it is Kawashita, I wouldn't expect any less.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Two ecchi manga and one kinda-ecchi series is too much (technically one is too much).

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Well, it is Kawashita, I wouldn't expect any less.

I assume it will be as popular as Hatsukoi.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Which hopefully means it will be gone quickly.