Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[tygreas]

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a holiday in japan?

 

[Kaiten]

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Bon is the day of remembrance in Japan. It lasts for three days, the country shuts down in mid - August to observe. The August double issue is due to the Bon holiday.

Jump has been reacting to having so many established series this year by adding fewer titles. The only reason so many are being added this month was because D. Gray Man is on indefinite hiatus, and the third series will be a short gag, 9 pages can be added to the magazine if need be. Adding series without removing an equal number would force them to pay more mangaka then they want and raise news stand price, something they desperately don't want to do. Remember, manga anthologies are meant to be dirt cheap advertising for the tankobon.

The first volume of a new series is roughly six months after chapter 1 came out. Volume 1 of Beelzebub and Hoop Men came out last week. Medaka and Akaboshi probably in October or November.

 

[Drmke]

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Question: Is this just a list of series in the current issue of SJ? http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html

I ask because if you click on past issues like last week's it has the ToC where this list is for this week's issue. And if this is the ToC that means it is very different.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I'm not sure this is any good information for anyone or not, but actually Dragonball was planned to cancel with two volumes worth chapters. The reason is that Dragonball falled down to bottom 5 when it started to serialized. So, it was planned to cancel after Goku's first adventure arc.

Then, there were two things that actally saved Dragonball from cancelation. First, Jump editors decided to give another chance to Torishima (author of Dragonball) by changing the series adventure to action, which Torishima add tournament arc, to gain popularity.

Second, when Dragonball was began to serialized, Dragonball began to make animation at the same time as it serialized. It is unusual for series to get animation too early. But, the reason is that Toriyama already become successful for Dr.Slump, so the editors thought Toriyama's next series going to be successful. Luckily, the animation was much better than original manga, so Dragonball become famous work. So, actually Dr. Slump saved Dragonball.

 

[Kaiten]

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Question: Is this just a list of series in the current issue of SJ? http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html

I ask because if you click on past issues like last week's it has the ToC where this list is for this week's issue. And if this is the ToC that means it is very different.

While Jaguar is the last series on the list I'm skeptical that it is an actual TOC. Besides Ko - neta never actually being wrong, seeing Medaka in the top 5 is a major red flag. Until Finestela or Heiji post the TOC I will assume this is just a list of series.

 

[Drmke]

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While Jaguar is the last series on the list I'm skeptical that it is an actual TOC. Besides Ko - neta never actually being wrong, seeing Medaka in the top 5 is a major red flag. Until Finestela or Heiji post the TOC I will assume this is just a list of series.

That's what I was thinking as well just the fact that the other issues had the ToCs with them it made me think twice a little bit.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Kinda hoping it is though. It would mean that Akaboshi still has some life in it. Although that would also mean that Kuroko's days are numbered.

 

[Crude]

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I'm not sure this is any good information for anyone or not, but actually Dragonball was planned to cancel with two volumes worth chapters. The reason is that Dragonball falled down to bottom 5 when it started to serialized. So, it was planned to cancel after Goku's first adventure arc.

Then, there were two things that actally saved Dragonball from cancelation. First, Jump editors decided to give another chance to Torishima (author of Dragonball) by changing the series adventure to action, which Torishima add tournament arc, to gain popularity.

Second, when Dragonball was began to serialized, Dragonball began to make animation at the same time as it serialized. It is unusual for series to get animation too early. But, the reason is that Toriyama already become successful for Dr.Slump, so the editors thought Toriyama's next series going to be successful. Luckily, the animation was much better than original manga, so Dragonball become famous work. So, actually Dr. Slump saved Dragonball.

Umm, I think you mean Toriyama. And is that really true? I though Toriyama only planned on doing the original Pilaf arc and then end the series, but was then pressured by the editorial staff to continue the series.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Umm, I think you mean Toriyama. And is that really true? I though Toriyama only planned on doing the original Pilaf arc and then end the series, but was then pressured by the editorial staff to continue the series.

You're right, thanks for correcting me. Torishima was editor for Toriyama.

Also, I have some more episodes about Dragonball.

Actually, Toriyama was thinking of continuing series by making Goku to be adult. And actually Torishima oppose the idea of continuing the series, editorial staff also wasn't happy about continuing the series. But, Toriyama threat(?) to editorial staff that "if Goku doesn't become an adult, the story will not make sense." So, editorial staff worried that the readers might complain about sudden change of Goku. But luckily, the readers love adult Goku, so it worked fine.

Also, in chapter 6 of Bakuman:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bakuman/6/06/
and
http://www.onemanga.com/Bakuman/6/07/

This short story is actually from Toriyama and Torishima, I think when Torishima was just a newbie.

Also, Toriyama also gives advice to Horii Yūji (creator of Dragon Quest series) to work on game, when Yūji was freelance writer. Also, he was the editor for the series, Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibōken.

I think Toriyama is really great editor, and I think currnet bottom 5 series, like Kuroko, Akaboshi, and Medaka, need this kind of editor to gain popularity.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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Question: Is this just a list of series in the current issue of SJ? http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html

I ask because if you click on past issues like last week's it has the ToC where this list is for this week's issue. And if this is the ToC that means it is very different.

That's what I was thinking as well just the fact that the other issues had the ToCs with them it made me think twice a little bit.

ITS JUST A LIST OF MANGA THAT WILL BE IN THE MAGAZINE THAT WEEK.

NOT THE ACTUAL TOC

The bottom 5 for issue 33 are
ToLoveRu
Medaka
Bakuman
Akaboshi
Kuroko
http://community.livejournal.com/weeklyjump/130790.html

So the one @ http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html for issue 33 can't be right.

Only "this week's issue" section has the correct order every week

What kewl0210 says about it...

Are we SERIOUSLY going to have to go through this every week? That is not the TOC. It's just WHAT'S IN the magazine, written in no particular order. It was the same last week, it sticks the color pages first, then other stuff in a random order. (Also note that the color pages are always NOT the first three.)

 

[Drmke]

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ITS JUST A LIST OF MANGA THAT WILL BE IN THE MAGAZINE THAT WEEK.

NOT THE ACTUAL TOC

The bottom 5 for issue 33 are
ToLoveRu
Medaka
Bakuman
Akaboshi
Kuroko
http://community.livejournal.com/weeklyjump/130790.html

So the one @ http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.html for issue 33 can't be right.

Only "this week's issue" section has the correct order every week

What kewl0210 says about it...

Well as I said the only reason I was just a little confused is cause last week they posted the ToC for the list of series in the magazine instead of just some random order.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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Well as I said the only reason I was just a little confused is cause last week they posted the ToC for the list of series in the magazine instead of just some random order.

Only http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/index.html has the correct order every week.

 

[Estranho]

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Only http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/index.html has the correct order every week.

But last week it was correct...

Where does this preview from the bottom come from? I never understand...

 

[Ronin88]

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Im happy that Kagijin is getting serialized. I liked the One shot and the concept of the whole thing. I see it getting more popular than Akaboshi for sure.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Does anyone know the volume sell for Beelzebub and Kuroko's second volume?

 

[Siberia]

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Im happy that Kagijin is getting serialized. I liked the One shot and the concept of the whole thing. I see it getting more popular than Akaboshi for sure.

Im kinda surprised Kagijin couldn't get a cover for its debut.

 

[Kaiten]

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Does anyone know the volume sell for Beelzebub and Kuroko's second volume?

Those won't be posted till tomorrow.

 

[Finestela]

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Im kinda surprised Kagijin couldn't get a cover for its debut.

Actually... you're incorrect. Kagijin will be the lead CP for 2009-33.
It is Wajima's gag that won't be getting the lead CP, with Toriko getting it instead for 2009-34.

 

[Siberia]

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Actually... you're incorrect. Kagijin will be the lead CP for 2009-33.
It is Wajima's gag that won't be getting the lead CP, with Toriko getting it instead for 2009-34.

I think I have messed them up (too many new n one shot series coming up in Jump)
so Wajima Satoshi is a gag story?

 

[Finestela]

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I think I have messed them up (too many new n one shot series coming up in Jump)
so Wajima Satoshi is a gag story?

Yep, but from the looks of it (and the fact that it's not getting lead CP), it might be a "half-series" like Inumaru and Jaguar, with 9 pages per week.

Not 100% positive though