Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Kaiten]

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/me dances on Kuroko's grave.

As long as Medaka can stay above Kuroko all will be well come next cuts. Akaboshi I can live without, it's good, but does the world really need more Jump action right now? Medaka's a funny, well written series, glad it's got a chance to survive. If it were a little less ecchi it might poll higher, but oh well.

Forgot it's almost time for the Future Cup. Hopefully they'll be translated this year.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Damn, I was hoping that Akaboshi would survive, but i guess it wasn't meant to be. However, it is good to see that Kuroko increased, so Kuroko might still have little chance to survive. Not surprising Gintama falls to bottom 5, but Reborn, too. I thought Reborn's ranking is on beginning of Choice Battle, but looks like people don't like this arc.

 

[The Adamant Dragon]

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What does lead CP mean? Coloured pages or WSJ cover? or both?

Lead CP reffers to WSJ's Front cover. And the lead CP often gets coloured pages within the chapter too. But getting the Lead CP doesn't necessarily mean that one gets to have color pages too, it all the depends on the author.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Not surprising Gintama falls to bottom 5, but Reborn, too. I thought Reborn's ranking is on beginning of Choice Battle, but looks like people don't like this arc.

To be fair, not much happened in that chapter outside of introductions and the build-up for choice. It is no surprise it didn't poll that well.

 

[Kaiten]

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Wait. I thought Reborn had color in issue 34. What's it doing in the bottom 5?

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Wait. I thought Reborn had color in issue 34. What's it doing in the bottom 5?

Maybe it got changed at the last minute? I recall such things like this being changed at the last minute in the past.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Wait. I thought Reborn had color in issue 34. What's it doing in the bottom 5?

You're right. Actually Reborn is getting color page on issue 34. Can someone explain this?

 

[Koen]

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I hope shueisha/wsj will be a bit patient now. As many series jojo in and out - and let's stress even good series like reborn, bakuman and gintama - it's difficult to know who the weaker ones are. But kuroko, TLR and akaboshi seem to be the constant bottom runners for some issues. Akaboshi won't survive and will be the next cut I think

and I didn't see reborn on the preview page, so it might be true it isn't getting a CP

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This is a relief because seeing Psyren below even To Love Ru had me going nuts for a second. >.>

Yeah met too, I nearly had a heart attack until mr. Prince posted that the ToC was fake

 

[Siberia]

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Maybe it got changed at the last minute? I recall such things like this being changed at the last minute in the past.

it did happen last year. There was a preview that DGM would get a color page but it turnt out to be a hiatus.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I think Akatsuki sets good example to Itou Mikio, Uchimizu Tohru, Kaji Kimiya, and Amano Youichi. These authors have good sense of art, but they failed two series in a row, which means they are weak at building interesting plot. So, after failure of Cotracter M&Y, Akatsuki started to working along with Nisio Isin, who has a good sense plot line, doing much better than before. So, I think these authors should find a partner with good sense of plot.

Also, by looking fall of Akaboshi, I'm afraid that Kagijin might fall.

 

[Finestela]

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Might have more to do with positioning as oppose to actual ranking (for Reborn)
There's going to be 4 CP series in 34, with Reborn as the fourth (I doubt they would put Kagijin's and Wajima's CP behind Reborn ) So... it might just got crowded toward the bottom...

Lead CP means that it will 100% be the "first series" in the magazine, with a Color Page, and about 95% chance of getting the Cover as well. There are several instances where the Lead CP series didn't get the Cover.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

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Thanks for clearing it up Finestela ....and Adamant

Oh shame, Akaboshi is dying. I think the plot wasn't enticing enough,well to the Japanese audience at least, the characters weren't bad, not bad at all. Maybe Japanese don't like chinese stuff, I don't know.

 

[Siberia]

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Maybe Japanese don't like chinese stuff, I don't know.

Thats not the main point. The storyline of Akaboshi is too boring to stay long in WSJ.

 

[Drmke]

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O Akaboshi, I hardly knew ya. We shared some good times but soon we will probably say goodbye.

And Kuroko, I always thought you were alright but you will probably get to leave with Akaboshi.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I think Kuroko still has chance to survive because remember that Psyren and Sket Dance hit to the last before, but they manage to pick them up. Also, I doubt that Jump editors will cancel only sport series, unless they start new sport series. Furthermore, it had gotten better lightly.

 

[Drmke]

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I think Kuroko still has chance to survive because remember that Psyren and Sket Dance hit to the last before, but they manage to pick them up. Also, I doubt that Jump editors will cancel only sport series, unless they start new sport series. Furthermore, it had gotten better lightly.

I don't think it will pull up outta the bottom 5 though. It might and survive but the chances are low.

It has gotten better, but people are less likely to vote for a series near the bottom cause of the risk of it being canceled soon and they might not wanna waste their vote on something that won't be around long enough for that vote to matter.

And even though Jump probably wants a sports series running, if the readers don't, I think they would cancel it in a heartbeat.

 

[Kaiten]

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Business is business, if the readers have rejected a new sports series it is out no matter what. It's not like volume 1 and 2 were big sellers. Kuroko is in a very bad position; even if Akaboshi and one of the new series do worse there is a very strong chance three series will need to go. With the upcoming chapter in Akamaru Jump, there's every chance D. Gray Man will relaunch in WSJ this fall requiring an extra cancellation. Also, it's been almost a year since the last run of Hunter x Hunter began, there is a good chance it returns this fall.

Psyren and Sket Dance's darkest days were under much different circumstances. There was always at least three series polling worse then them, no matter what. Kuroko, so far, only has one new series polling worse.

 

[Siberia]

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With the upcoming chapter in Akamaru Jump, there's every chance D. Gray Man will relaunch in WSJ this fall requiring an extra cancellation.

I do agree. Only series making money can stay long regardless of its targeted readers

btw, what makes u think DGM would reserialize in WSJ lol. Akamaru Jump is probably a sign of moving from weekly to monthly magazine. If DGM intends to stay in WSJ, it would reserialize in WSJ n split 50 pages into 3 weeks.

Recently there are too many new series in WSJ n there is indeed no room for the series which are often on hiatus.

 

[Kaiten]

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DGM is a massive series. One of the biggest in Japan. Sales regularly exceed 600,000 per volume. They could move it to SQ to help alleviate her work load, it wouldn't surprise me, I personally wouldn't want to move a corporate bestseller (DGM is fifth in per volume sales for all of Shueisha) to a much lower circulation magazine. SQ has a circulation a little of a little over 300,000 copies. WSJ moves 2.8 million.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Business is business, if the readers have rejected a new sports series it is out no matter what. It's not like volume 1 and 2 were big sellers. Kuroko is in a very bad position; even if Akaboshi and one of the new series do worse there is a very strong chance three series will need to go. With the upcoming chapter in Akamaru Jump, there's every chance D. Gray Man will relaunch in WSJ this fall requiring an extra cancellation. Also, it's been almost a year since the last run of Hunter x Hunter began, there is a good chance it returns this fall.

Agreed on Kuroko. It looks screwed next time the cuts come around.

To be honest, I expect nothing from Hunter X Hunter at this point. Even if Togashi had a pattern going on for a little while before, it seems as if he has broken it now. (10 chapters in Spring and Fall or whatever it was) It wouldn't shock me if we don't see Hunter X Hunter until next year or later.

As for DGM, if it moves to Jump SQ or only publishes in WSJ once a month, that is fine with me. It looks like it would be easier on Hoshino anyway. The fact that it was in Akamaru Jump rather than being inserted in WSJ kind of gives me doubts about it really being a weekly series again.

Psyren and Sket Dance's darkest days were under much different circumstances. There was always at least three series polling worse then them, no matter what. Kuroko, so far, only has one new series polling worse.

I can agree with you here. Psyren and Sket Dance are the only series from their starting years still going on at this point I think. That is assuming they are both 2007. That more or less says something about the other series from that time period.

Although we can also blame WSJ for being trigger happy during that time as well. >.>