Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Mago's just been setting up for another big plot arc too, which would mean that we either knew about this weeks before Shiibashi did, or he was well aware and just decided to do it anyways.

And either of those seems pretty unlikely.

 

[sir_arles]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Also, Inoue did wrote some one shots that were prototype for Slam Dunk.

Yes, It was published in 1988 and It was called Kaede Purple, with Rukawa starring. The funny thing is that his nemesis was a guy with the characteristics of the other 4 players of Shohoku XD


About the topic, I think that the one shot helps the mangaka testing what he is doing, seeing if the readers like the story the way It is and allowing him to make a better manga.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

In 2008, there are 8 series had cancelled, and 2 series are started with one shot before been serialized.

In 2009, there are 3 sereis had cancelled so far, and none of them started with one shot.

So, I think the series with one shots have higher possibilities to survive. And for axed series, I think major reason for their cancellation is that the author didn't do very well on changing their one shot into a series.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Yeah, but I think Jump don't need series Inumaru and Wajimania serialized in same time because Jump already have Jaguar. And I think they don't need more than two short page gag-series.

Because we ALL know that in a anthology of 20ish series we should have all the diversity of a batch of particularly samey sponges. Two gag series is ridiculously small in the face of other types of manga. Three is certainly more acceptable, though it would be nice if any of those had full length chapters.

 

[Crude]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Gintama, Beelzebub, Sket Dance, Inumaru, Jaguar! (?) and the new series Wanjimania. That would be six gag manga in Jump.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Gintama, Beelzebub, Sket Dance, Inumaru, Jaguar! (?) and the new series Wanjimania. That would be six gag manga in Jump.

I don't consider Beelzebub as gag manga. I think Beelzebub is battle manga with lots of comedy.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Two gag manga (Jaguar/Inumaru) really is a very small amount. Most anthologies have three or four, maybe more. I'm referring to the eight or nine page comedies or 4Koma. Wajima would bring Jump to a more acceptable number. 20 page comedy series like Gintama or Hayate are different.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Any news on next week's bottom 5 preview? considering Jump's release a bit faster than usual, i thought it would come out faster.

 

[xi0]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Two gag manga (Jaguar/Inumaru) really is a very small amount. Most anthologies have three or four, maybe more. I'm referring to the eight or nine page comedies or 4Koma. Wajima would bring Jump to a more acceptable number. 20 page comedy series like Gintama or Hayate are different.

You bring up something interesting here. Why is it that we don't see any yonkomas in WSJ? Maybe my memory is failing me, but I can't think of any in recent memory.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

While I'm quite a sucker for gag that new series was rather Wack-o-mania than anything else...didn't grasp me. At all.
(I know it's only the first chapter but it just wasn't pigeon)

 

[Elyon A. Luna]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Little question:

Next One Piece volume should come around September, right?

I'm anxious for a cover featuring

Spoiler

THE GROUP

I hope.

Nevermind, just calculated the chapters, and that will have to wait two volumes.

Oh, well.

Next volume will most likely feature

Spoiler

Luffy, Bon-chan, and perhaps Buggy and Mr. 3

 

[Siberia]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Akamaru Jump Summer 2009 will be issued on 17/8 but I wonder can we get early spoilers on 12/8, just like WSJ.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

You bring up something interesting here. Why is it that we don't see any yonkomas in WSJ? Maybe my memory is failing me, but I can't think of any in recent memory.

My knowledge of Jump history isn't as broad as some but I can't think of any Jump ever having 4Koma. There staples of other magazine, strange that Jump hasn't tried.

Jump always seems desperate for gag. Penguin and Poseidon were placed in the top five for their entire run. They try and add at least two a year to the line up. I think Inumaru will last at least a year, popular or no

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Any news on next week's bottom 5 preview? considering Jump's release a bit faster than usual, i thought it would come out faster.

I think everything was ahead of schedule last week due to a Saturday issue. Usually it probably will be released as usual.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Gintama, Beelzebub, Sket Dance, Inumaru, Jaguar! (?) and the new series Wanjimania. That would be six gag manga in Jump.

gintama is schizophrenic (wonderfully so) between many genres. Sket is slice of life more than gag now, and beelzebub is more an action series with gag elements (as many predicted it would become)

so whilst Sket makes it a possible 4 out of 20 it's still not all that impressive a showing for the genre

 

[Finestela]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Hmm... a lot of people seem to have mixed up between Comedy and Gag... Beelze and Sket are in no way "gags", while Gintama is indeed a gag series. Kochikame is a harder one to consider, but everything else is pretty clear on which one it belongs.

To me, I think a gag series has to have the following three criterias when making jokes:

1. Misery of character(s) as a source of joke.
2. Puns.
3. Tsukkomi.

Another optional indicator is relating to pop culture or current events.

 

[Crude]

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If Beelzebub does become a battle manga, I hope it improves on it's battles. So far they've been pretty boring. The best parts of the series were no doubt the comedy elements.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I'm hoping that 2010 series to be like another 2007 series. The reason is that 2008 series are very successful, and 2009 are doing pretty good. So, in order to save other series, we need lots of not very good series to axe each other, until some of current series to finish in naturally.

 

[Drmke]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

I'm hoping that 2010 series to be like another 2007 series. The reason is that 2008 series are very successful, and 2009 are doing pretty good. So, in order to save other series, we need lots of not very good series to axe each other, until some of current series to finish in naturally.

Eh....I don't quite agree there.

As much as I hate seeing series I like go, I hate watching lots of new series crash and burn on right after another more.

I would prefer that just instead hoping more series suck and die, that we just get more good series but at a lower quantity. That way less series are canceled, but we don't get barraged by constant crap.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

The problem in making these comments is that we really just don't know what every year and every series is going to bring us. It may be brilliant for the word go and stay that way, it may be brilliant at first and become crap a few chapters, a few months or a few years later. It could be awfully generic at first and stick around barely before becoming more interesting and huge. Or...it could just suck. Every series is a blank slate and we have to treat them as such since we never know what each one will bring...and how it will affect the status quo of the magazine at that time.