It's late at night so I cant be arsed looking for the right page. But moria allso said that he got completely owned in the new world.
In spite of it being clearly stated that they were equal.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/483/06/
Moria lost his entire crew to Kaidou.. You say they were equals, I say he got owned.
No his crew wasn't strong enough to fight a Yonkou's. Kaidou himself isn't a threat to the World Government. No one man is strong enough to be a threat to the World Government. The danger of the Strawhats isn't just Luffy, it's everyone: Zoro, Sanji, ect.
And saying Moria = Kaidou would allmost be the same as saying Luffy = Kaidou, which lets face it, would be a complete joke. Even after he has discovered Haki Luffy is miles away from Yonkou strength.
Incorect, Moria was
once on par with Kaidou. Meaning Moria at his peak, was on par with Kaidou. Still Moria still lacks a name or title as great as Mihawk. Moria stopped training himself, and instead focused on having Nakama make him Pirate King, because the loss of his crew struck a cord.
Screw the potency! Blackbeard is allready as strong as, or stronger, then Shanks. Beeing able to clash with him before he even got the devils fruit points towards him beeing the stronger of the two.
IRRELEVANT. Read the thread. The Strongest Crew in One Piece, not the strongest Captain. Do you understand now? Let me simplify this even more. If Whitebeard alone attacked the World Government, he would fail. Why? He's only one man. Whitebeard+Crew+Allies, are capable of challanging even the Marines. Blackbeard is top tier no one is denying that, but his crew is too small to pose a real threat to the larger Pirate crews. BB Pirates would lose to the Red-Haired Pirates. Why? Not because Shanks>BB himself, but because The hundreds of Pirates+Red Force>>>>A handfull of Pirates on a Raft...A RAFT!
And one shotted by magellan, again... pfft, they stood there and took it. He was pissed off and didnt hesitate at all to attack them.
Shiryuu = Magellan
Blackbeard = Stronger then Shiryuu
Remember that Luffy was able to fight Magellan for 24 hours nonstop! AFTER having been poisoned. If Luffy is capable of that then Blackbeard should be too, probably able to defeat Magellan within that time too.
EH!? Incorrect
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/535/11/
Here Luffy has 24 hours to live. And no. Shiryuu~Magellan without Hell's Judgement, because with it Magellan can destroy Impel Down itself. Also Magellan subdued Shiryuu so he does not = Magellan. They are in similar leagues but not on the same level. Also why do you assume Shiryuu<Blackbeard. (A>B>C logic fails very frequently I wouldn't rely on it)
Just because someone joins a crew means nothing. Remember Zoro=Luffy.
And that crew is NOT a young crew! They should all have reached the pinnacle of their power by now (not to say we wont see atleast a little character development, but they are atleast very close to it). These are all old timers capable of remembering when Roger roamed the seas!
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Bullshit.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/440/15/
None of his crew can defeat Ace yet. In another translation BB specifically says your not on his level
yet
Ace, Marco, Joz and WB would be the strongest 4 of the strongest crew in the world. Not disputing that WB probably still is the top.
That said, Joz is below Ace.
BB is above both, probably above Marco too. Again with the ALLREADY BEFORE THE DEVILS FRUIT arguement. BB could have taken Ace's spot in WB's crew had he wanted too. BEFORE THE MOST POWERFULL DEVILS FRUIT IN THE WORLD, darling.
Very good, but all 14 Division Commanders are likely slightly below Ace Level. Remember Shanks had a 94million member of his crew who was a rookie. Imagine Shanks higher ups like Ben Beckman,Lucky Roux, and Yasopp. They alone along with their captain could likely solo the BB Crew, not counting the hundreds of others.
WB himself, nobody knows if BB is ready for him yet. Im guessing not, he would have done it allready. Maybe he's about to. But it wouldnt be an easy fight for either.
No but WB+Crew would shit all over Blackbeard and his crew.