Discussion Garp Discussion Thread

[sh4dx]

well i believe that the old days 22years before roger's death garp was an admira for sure or MAYBE he was fleet admiral(he seems at least 10 years older than sengoku, and sengoku back then was admiral) and the only reason why he is now VA is because either he got lower rank because some of the gerousei knew about roger's son(i don't really believe this) or just himself felt "guilty" for help a pirate and disobey his marine protocol and for that reason he is taday VA.

it's just my theory but i don't find any better way for his current VA rank.

 

[BlackHair]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was always a VA. Giving his unique charackter.. well wouldn't be a big news.

But if he was really a former Admiral, then I see only one reason for his degradation: he become weaker, thus unable to present as one of the MHQ greatest weapon.

About raising Roger's son, that news reached the government only after Ace begun his voyage on the sea. So if that was the reason, then he should have been de-promoted less than 3 years ago. But I don't think that was the case.

At the end only expectation and assumption. Let's wait for a flashback.

 

[sh4dx]

well i forgot to mention Dragon.I still believe garp back at roger's days he was admiral or fleet admiral and his degration wasn't that he become weaker, but something like Dragon, or that he saved ace..

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

I do not really understand the logic behind the idea that Garp was an Admiral and became Vice-admiral because either he was getting older either he had done problematical things.

First of all, do you really think that demoting an Admiral to a Vice-admiral could be called a demotion ? The Vice-admiral position stay one of the highest rank of the marine ; that means Garp would have still got a special position in the marine (a seat in the " marine nomenklatura ") and thus he would not have been deprived of his officer rank and his freedom/power in the organization. So, that idea is not realistic as that is not what a demotion truly is.
Secondly, knowing that Sengoku said himself that if Garp was not the hero of the marine, he would have took responsibility for his family's actions makes me think that Garp never had serious problems with the marine/WG in his career. The fact that he is the hero of the marine has always protected him as Sengoku underlined it.

Now, about the idea that he became Vice-admiral because he was getting older, I do not really think it is plausible either. Garp stays one of the strongest person in the manga and some of us - mangahelpers'members - think he may be as strong/stronger as/than some of the admirals. Thus, why would he become vice-admiral : he still has the strenght to deal with almost any kind of situation ? Besides, it does not really seem fine to thank an Admiral by making him a Vice-admiral. I guess the marine would have created a special rank for the ex-Admirals if they were not the strongest anymore but enough strong to continue working for the marines as one of its strongest soldier.
And from what I know, an officer that retires keeps his former rank as a title. So, Garp would keep a vice-admiral title if he retired whereas he used to be an Admiral ?
That does not seem realistic either. I do not remind any story in our world about officers being demoted because they were old.

The most serious idea would be that he never got the admiral rank because of his behavior.

 

[sh4dx]

i don't really believe that if garp was admiral or fleet admiral become VA because he became older..just think about it 20 years ago sengoku was admiral, and garp(the hero of the marines) seems at least 10-15 years older than sengoku(at least to me) so it make perfect sense for garp being fleet admiral(and at the meeting of wb and shanks when wb said about roger,garp,sengoku i am sure that the line he introduce them,was meaning something..i) and because he was the hero of the marines just degrade to VA because of his son actions or his behavior or whatever.

 

[Poneglyph420]

i don't really believe that if garp was admiral or fleet admiral become VA because he became older..just think about it 20 years ago sengoku was admiral, and garp(the hero of the marines) seems at least 10-15 years older than sengoku(at least to me) so it make perfect sense for garp being fleet admiral(and at the meeting of wb and shanks when wb said about roger,garp,sengoku i am sure that the line he introduce them,was meaning something..i) and because he was the hero of the marines just degrade to VA because of his son actions or his behavior or whatever.

It would make the most sense Garp hasn't been demoted ever. He most likely was given the chance to advance, but was too free willed. He is still a member of the Monkey family, a D and seemingly a "loose cannon". He was the hero of the Marines because he brought in Roger. Garp is most likely to have more we still don't know about him.

 

[sh4dx]

It would make the most sense Garp hasn't been demoted ever. He most likely was given the chance to advance, but was too free willed. He is still a member of the Monkey family, a D and seemingly a "loose cannon". He was the hero of the Marines because he brought in Roger. Garp is most likely to have more we still don't know about him.

for me it's not make the most sense..it would be a "hole" if we never find out who was the fleet admiral during roger's age,and i believe garp has many chances.here comes Dadan but for now we don't know ANYTHING so i think that garp is the best "candidate" for the previous fleet admiral's position.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

I'm sorry sh4dx, but between Garp is a vice-admiral and has never been an admiral, and Garp is a vice-admiral but was an admiral, what actually makes the most sense is the first thing.

 

[sh4dx]

I'm sorry sh4dx, but between Garp is a vice-admiral and has never been an admiral, and Garp is a vice-admiral but was an admiral, what actually makes the most sense is the first thing.

sorry, but i don't go with the sense in a manga..
i just believe that the "hole" about the fleet-admiral and the 2 admirals at roger's age will be cover for sure later,and i just express my opinion that garp back then, was either admiral or fleet admiral and got degrade at his rank because of his son(dragon) or his attitude or whatever.it's just my opinion nothing more.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

sorry, but i don't go with the sense in a manga..
i just believe that the "hole" about the fleet-admiral and the 2 admirals at roger's age will be cover for sure later,and i just express my opinion that garp back then, was either admiral or fleet admiral and got degrade at his rank because of his son(dragon) or his attitude or whatever.it's just my opinion nothing more.

You know, I just answered to your post where you said that Garp was demoted was what makes the most sense for you.

 

[Poneglyph420]

.....

Anyone wanna post about what we think wil happen to Garp in present time? He is going to have major conflicts internally, and with either enemies or his fellow Marines.

I bet he will give himself to protect Ace and Luffy.
Also regardless of his rank he's a bad ass!

 

[modoki]

The way things are going now in the war, it seems the only person atm who has a chance to save Ace is Garp.

He knows if he attempts to, Sengoku will end his life right away.

Since he is putting "family" over "pirates" Garp will definitely make a move. While in the mean time luffy/WB will have to deal with Kizaru now, and we know Kizaru if too fast/too strong to let them pass.

What Garp will do to attempt to save Ace is totally up in the air. I can assure you that he is sitting there thinking how to save his (adopted) son.

If Garp does pull it off completely or incompletely, it will totally change the look of the marines on a new level. No doubt this possible move alone will piss off the Gorousei.

 

[kkck]

Garp is not going to do anything to save either ace of luffy. At the very best he will turn his head to whatever and let them escape but by no means he is going to take direct action into saving them.

 

[chess4]

Garp is not going to do anything to save either ace of luffy. At the very best he will turn his head to whatever and let them escape but by no means he is going to take direct action into saving them.

garp is going to have save them. ace is on the platform with sengoku and he can kill him anytime. garp will have make a choice, watch him dieor save him.

 

[tehgrim]

I think garp will do something at the end, but nothing big. For example he'll throw out an attack at luffy, but only something he knows he can dodge. He knows luffy pretty well, so he should know what he capable of and attack just underneath that.

 

[DutchPhoenix]

question about garp

Why is he called ''hero of the marines''

What did he do to get that title, anyone knows?

 

[Shuusui]

Re: question about garp

Why is he called ''hero of the marines''

What did he do to get that title, anyone knows?

he is strongest marine i think(maybe sengoku but, garp is one of D.'s and father of dragon,luffy )
and he fought pirate king roger, like they are equals...
gol d. roger's words ; ''the two of us have nearly killed each other so many times...''

 

[Franckie]

Re: question about garp

Why is he called ''hero of the marines''

What did he do to get that title, anyone knows?

Garp is considered the "Hero of the Marines" because he is a former Admiral candidate and famous for "cornering the Pirate King on multiple occassions".

 

[DutchPhoenix]

Re: question about garp

I personally think Garp did something big , something really big wich gave him the title Hero of the marines.

What he did we dont know yet..
Since i dont think cornering gold roger or battled roger wouldnt really give him the title of hero of the marines, unless he slayed Gol D roger personally, wich he didnt do.

 

[Anduren]

Re: question about garp

I used to have the impression that it was to Garp that Roger turned himself in to. But after seeing the flashback where he tells Garp to take care of Ace, it makes me think that was not the case (same way Garp visited Ace in Impel down even though he did not arrest Ace).

There's also the incident with Shiki the Golden Lion: Garp was one of the two people who took him down when he invaded Marineford (the only person to invade Marineford before Whitebeard from what I know).

I'm sure there's a lot more to Garp's past that has not been revealed yet that we will find out as we learn more about Roger's past as well. I'd expect to see them from Garp's own flashbacks at some future point in the story.