One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[k-dom]

well after check, we have the 3 databooks and 2 color ones

 

[Gats]

I'm a little surprised to see that Italy and Germany are ahead from France about manga publication, even if it's very close. Where can we find some news about the manga market share or popularity in these countries (and others) ?

 

[k-dom]

Well I believe that with the bande dessinée market, the manga took a little longer to be introduced or at least popular. That is just a guess, I have no evidence.

 

[Gats]

Because I read that France was just behind Japan about manga readers ratio, or market share (this is a different thing, true), I don't remember very well, maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Gcat88]

that is pretty accurate. most studies have said that France is second to Japan in MANGA. Korea they read comics but its not Manga and we all know that americans read something completely different than Manga.

 

[Junaid_Sennin]

Also his [Luffy's] bounty will be raised. 450,000,000 perhaps? I think it'll match whatever Shanks bounty is.

Here's a list of my guesses on peoples bounties.

Shanks - 450,000,000 Beli
Whitebeard - 550,000,000 Beli
Mihawk - 400,000,000 Beli (former)
Gol D. Roger - 600,000,000 Beli (former)
Rayleigh - 400,000,000 Beli

Buggy's bounty will raise too (whether it's deserved or not). I'm not sure if it will reach shanks status or not though.

I heard that 500 000 000 was the highest a bounty could go?

I think Luffy's WILL DEFINITELY increase. 450? Maybe 350 or 380. Coz if 500 really is the cap, I doubt there'd be many people that near to it. Yonkou and Dragon mainly, and maybe Roger and Rayleigh. Apparently if Enel were a pirate he'd be at 500 (not really 'apparently' since Oda said so himself), because of his craziness, not his power (dude wants to rule the world. Not OUR world, actually the moon, but you never know, after all, he thinks he's a god).

I think Shanks, Mihawk, Rayleigh and Whitebeard should be in the 400's, Mihawk might be lower.

Speaking of him, why did he agree to be a Shichibukai anyway? We don't know much about him, but to me he doesn't seem like the type to ally himself with the government and the marines. Heck, he doesn't even seem like a pirate to me. I see him as a pure swordsman, and I also think that he, like Zoro, gets his power solely from his swordsmanship, and has no devil fruit ability.

Shanks also probably hasn't eaten a fruit, but if that's the case, I can't imagine what the source of his power could be. We know he was a good enough swordsman to duel Mihawk, but I don't see him as a pure swordsman. Maybe he's a fighter-type too, like Luffy (and Ace and Blackbeard before they ate their fruit). I know Luffy ate a fruit, but I'm talking about his fighting style. Maybe Shanks has acquired an ability since the time he saved Luffy...

 

[Wowzers]

I don't think there is a upper limit to the size of the bounty at this time but it has been mentioned that Dragon's bounty is the highest in the OP world... they simply have avoided quoting that number. When it does get quoted, everything else will have to be less since he is the worlds most wanted man.

Of course, that title might change to Luffy later in the series.

 

[elitefox]

I heard that 500 000 000 was the highest a bounty could go?

I think Luffy's WILL DEFINITELY increase. 450? Maybe 350 or 380. Coz if 500 really is the cap, I doubt there'd be many people that near to it. Yonkou and Dragon mainly, and maybe Roger and Rayleigh. Apparently if Enel were a pirate he'd be at 500 (not really 'apparently' since Oda said so himself), because of his craziness, not his power (dude wants to rule the world. Not OUR world, actually the moon, but you never know, after all, he thinks he's a god).

I think Shanks, Mihawk, Rayleigh and Whitebeard should be in the 400's, Mihawk might be lower.

Speaking of him, why did he agree to be a Shichibukai anyway? We don't know much about him, but to me he doesn't seem like the type to ally himself with the government and the marines. Heck, he doesn't even seem like a pirate to me. I see him as a pure swordsman, and I also think that he, like Zoro, gets his power solely from his swordsmanship, and has no devil fruit ability.

Shanks also probably hasn't eaten a fruit, but if that's the case, I can't imagine what the source of his power could be. We know he was a good enough swordsman to duel Mihawk, but I don't see him as a pure swordsman. Maybe he's a fighter-type too, like Luffy (and Ace and Blackbeard before they ate their fruit). I know Luffy ate a fruit, but I'm talking about his fighting style. Maybe Shanks has acquired an ability since the time he saved Luffy...

Well Shanks plays with Mihawk from time to time... it just stop when shanks lost his arm since Mihawk thinks he is disabled.


Monkey D. Dragon has a 1B bounty
as far as I know


Shanks may have a DF but he hates being not to swim so I don't think he will eat a DF. and he said he hasn't gone down a bit in power since he lost his arm.

 

[Junaid_Sennin]

I've never thought of it that way before, but since Dragon's the world's most wanted man, it makes sense that his bounty would be the highest. Duh! How could I not notice that? Sheesh, I used to be pretty smart...

Yeah, I couldn't really see the point of having an upper limit on bounties, but apparently it was stated in an SBS as 500 million. I can't cite a source, but I heard it a long time ago. It'd be awesome if Dragon's bounty was a billion, but I guess the limit (if it exists) is because the world government just doesn't have that kinda money.

 

[Wowzers]

I guess one way the world government looks at it like this... how many battleships can we build for 1billion, verses, how many battleships has this person destroyed this year?

 

[Junaid_Sennin]

Oh-oh wait... Why don't Kizaru, Eneru and Aokiji use similiar "slip-into-bodies-and-use-the-powers-there" attacks? To slip inside some elses body is disgraceful - it contradicts most of the characters' conception and is in most situations completely unnecessary.

Would you like me to explain to you the properties of light? Light can only travel in a straight line, which is why things can go through Kizaru (light is intangible, so when something tries to penetrate/pierce him, the light reflects off of it and scatters, and he then reforms his body once the object is no longer there to obstruct the light), but he cannot go through things (like walk through people). This is because, when light hits an object, it is either reflected, absorbed or transmitted, sometimes more than just one of the three. So if he tried to go through something like walk through someone, he couldn't because how would the light get from the front of a person to the back? Picture him trying to walk through a wall. The light would be reflected or absorbed, depending on the surface of the wall, but it would not be transmitted unless the wall was transparent. So for that same reason, going inside someone is impossible because people are not transparent. Going into the openings in someones body (nostrils, mouth, ears, pores) is also not gonna work since internal reflection wouldn't occur like it does in a fibre optic cable, but absorption may occur on a small level. Thus, his lazer attacks and high-speed physical attacks are actually the most suitable forms of using his power. The 'light sabre' is dodgy, it isn't physically (as in scientifically) possible, since there needs to be something reflective at the tip of the sword to determine it's length, or the light will just continue to extend into the distance. I can give a long theory to say why Kizaru shouldn't be able to create a sword out of light, but it's boring and no one cares since it ruins the fun of One Piece.

Ice is solid, so people would have to swallow/consume it manually, whereas people HAVE to breathe, giving Smoker an opening. Sure they'd cough, but he can still choke them by forcing more of his smoke into them through their mouth or nostrils, and if the victims tried kept their mouths closed or blocked their nostrils, they'd just suffocate themselves anyway, so it's win-win for Smoker. They wouldn't necessarily die, he just has to choke them till they pass out. Think about it, if someone puts a chokehold on their opponent in jiujutsu or other fighting styles, and releases the minute their opponent passes out, the victim will survive.

The logia users themselves wouldn't actually enter anyone, since they can generate the substance they control and send THAT into the victim. Do you think all the smoke Smoker produces is his body? He can also generate extra smoke, AND turn his body into smoke.

I don't like using technical explanations since they ruin the fun, but you seem to be trying to call me an idiot, so I just wanted to explain why I said the things I did, and provide the logic and reasoning behind those statements. I'm not a fool. I don't speak before I think.

But Luffy, Ivankov and Inazuma did not die, did they? Poison can still be neutralized or it is just simply ineffective.

For the first part of this quote: I said that everyone is susceptable to poisoning, and your response does not disprove me. Luffy was indeed poisoned, as were Iva and Inazuma. Luffy and Iva were saved by Iva's hormones, and since we can assume Iva didn't give Inazuma the hormones, since he said he didn't wanna decrease his life, the fact that Inazuma is ok means he received a non-lethal dose, and whatever kinda medical attention he received afterwards on the ship, if he even received any, was enough for him to pull through. Not all poison is lethal, and not all doses are enough to kill. As for poison being ineffective, one would either have to be immune, which no one we've seen so far is, or you'd need antidotes or Iva's hormones. (Magellan isn't immune since he gets stomach problems and diarrhea.) And Iva's hormones aren't a guaranteed cure; it depends on the person and how serious their condition is.

 

[Gcat88]

The bounty will go up. i Believe to 350, 380 is also a reasonable guess. I dont remember hearing that the cap is 500??? where is that??? Its hard to imagine what Shanks WhiteBeard and Roger bounty are. Mihawk must have had a high bounty. He was probably a just pirate, but decided it was better to fight for a cause then to plunder. or, AN INTERESTING STORY, his crew was destroyed by a government employee and he was forced to join.

 

[deffkryz]

First off... Yeah. I tried to be funny and to explain why making Smoker choke his opponents by entering their lungs (even only with the additional smoke he creates) is a pretty bad idea - not to make fun of you.

I simply have a question for you before I get to your posting: How can you be so eager to make Smoker choke someone by entering his opponent's body through his lungs when you're opposing poison as legit ability? Penetrating someone's body by their mouth, nose, or other I think is considered a disgusting and dishonorable act of fighting. Even mere choking by bare hands isn't used in One Piece AFAIR.

So why come up with such an idea that in addition contradicts Smoker's character?

Would you like me to explain to you the properties of light?

You could have stopped here: No, you bored me since I know about light. Since Kizaru showed by creating his light sword that he is able to control and bend light and made the light particles (=photons) stop in his sword.

Ice is solid, so people would have to swallow/consume it manually, whereas people HAVE to breathe, giving Smoker an opening.

You don't have to fill the lungs with ice to make one choke from inside. A small ice block in the throat is way enough and can be dissolved quite easy for Aokiji.

Sure they'd cough, but he can still choke them by forcing more of his smoke into them through their mouth or nostrils, and if the victims tried kept their mouths closed or blocked their nostrils, they'd just suffocate themselves anyway, so it's win-win for Smoker. They wouldn't necessarily die, he just has to choke them till they pass out. Think about it, if someone puts a chokehold on their opponent in jiujutsu or other fighting styles, and releases the minute their opponent passes out, the victim will survive.

Just in case you didn't know: In real world, choking is dangerous. There was a kid that died from "playing Gaara" in the US - you want another murder in the media because kids "played Smoker captured an opponent by choking"?

Actually, your way "filling the lungs" is pretty dangerous to the opponents, because the smoke takes away the space for the oxygen in small bronchia - so forcing his way into the lungs is a freaking bad idea since the opponents may suffer overpressure ruptures in those bronchia making them cough a lot of blood. They can easily drown in their own blood. You also can't control a smoke with gas-like characteristics and then put it out to fill automatically the oxygen to keep the unconcious opponent breathing. That has something to do with air pressure and how the lung system works: It's either in or out - and once your losing consciousness due to choking/suffocating you don't have much time to fill the lungs again with oxygen.

So it's not like a jiujitsu choke - you just can't release the choke properly and in time.

I'm not a fool. I don't speak before I think.

But your ignoring facts to point out your argumentation.

For the first part of this quote: I said that everyone is susceptable to poisoning, and your response does not disprove me.

In fact, you only stated that you don't like poison attacks - so my answer wasn't meant to negate but to relativize that there are cases in One Piece where poison is ineffective. I cut the rest because I believe to have answered the same way to M.D.Ace's posting concerning poison (lethal dosis/antidotes/etc.).

 

[Fox666]

lol Just found this image: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/therealsengoku1.jpg

 

[redred]

lol Just found this image: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/therealsengoku1.jpg

LOL!
so sengokus the devil/horrible demon. now we know the secret of the world government, theyre really the workers of hell :P

 

[deffkryz]

lol Just found this image: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/therealsengoku1.jpg

BTW... Did that gull on the cap ever move?

 

[Gcat88]

That is just ridiculous. Here is a topic, what arc would make a good movie, and what changes would you make to the arc to make it a better movie???

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

lol Just found this image: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/therealsengoku1.jpg

I must admit I like it, especially when Sengoku's glasses are combined with boobs
It's always interesting to see that kind of things, through that doesn't really fit his nickname and the gull is not really Sengoku's own mark but simply the marine badge,

 

[Fox666]

Now that I am looking at it, Sengoku looks quite like a chinese stereotype.

 

[Black Lagoon]

lol Just found this image: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/zetruz/therealsengoku1.jpg

LMAO that's epic, so the goat must be his son/daughter ... which means that more than 50% of his/her (the goat) genes are from his/her mother (the goat mother)