One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

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If I had to choose, I would make the Shabaondy Archipelago arc into a movie. Except that I would extend the information given and powers shown of the Supernovae. Maybe get to know them better. Then all the action, make it even more dramatic and cooler looking. And of course, the movie will end with Kuma sending all the strawhats away. That would be a major twist, because then the good guys lose. Wait.. Pirates are supposed to be the bad side... Confusing.

P.S. That Sengoku-Demon pic is funny, but ridicilous.
 

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If I had to choose, I would make the Shabaondy Archipelago arc into a movie. Except that I would extend the information given and powers shown of the Supernovae. Maybe get to know them better. Then all the action, make it even more dramatic and cooler looking. And of course, the movie will end with Kuma sending all the strawhats away. That would be a major twist, because then the good guys lose. Wait.. Pirates are supposed to be the bad side... Confusing.

P.S. That Sengoku-Demon pic is funny, but ridicilous.
Just wait ... there's a long way to go, the New world is f**king huge ...
And about the Shabaondy Archipelago, I would like to see a dead end to the nobles:barf those crazy bastards.
 

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Great find Ilovefoxes :Gaipose

I can imagine Sengoku's true form to be very eviiiil now lol.
 

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you know what that truly is a great picture. its one of those i wonder how the hell he got all those pictures. An end to the Nobles would be awesome, but a movie with the last scene being the SH being sent off would make for an epic sequel!!! Nice Ideas.
 

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If I had to choose, I would make the Shabaondy Archipelago arc into a movie. Except that I would extend the information given and powers shown of the Supernovae. Maybe get to know them better. Then all the action, make it even more dramatic and cooler looking. And of course, the movie will end with Kuma sending all the strawhats away. That would be a major twist, because then the good guys lose. Wait.. Pirates are supposed to be the bad side... Confusing.
The problem with the Shabondy Arc is that it's not self-contained. It relies on a (hilarious, but) unimportant side arc about Duval and has no real resolution even 3 arcs later. So unless you could turn Shabondy + Kuja + ID + WBwar into a movie (possible, but a lot would be cut), it would feel disappointing.

There's a reason movies and stories end with the good guys winning, so that it's not an obvious sequel cash in. I mean, imagine avatar ending where the big tree gets destroyed. You'd be confused, and then angry. Or a better example: imagine Star wars ending with Empire Strikes Back.

That is just ridiculous. Here is a topic, what arc would make a good movie, and what changes would you make to the arc to make it a better movie???
Whoever was in charge with refitting the Drum and Alabasta arcs into movies was obviously delusional. The Drum arc is too small for a good movie, the Alabasta arc too large since it was built up from the very entry of the grand line. Heck, you could argue the arc was built up from Joni mentioning the Shichibukai before Arlong Park.

The best self-contained arc that would go well as a movie, to my mind, would be the Skypeia arc. Even though it is only #5 as far as favourite arcs go in my mind, it has a beginning act, a middle act and a final act. You could easily cut out some of the cameo fights, or actually turn them into something more hectic befitting a pirate raid on an established army, and build up one villain that Worf's every single character until the main appears, effectively making the final conflict the ultimate end of the movie.

Arlong Arc was only good knowing the build up of Nami. Alabasta the build up of Vivi. W7/EL required a lot of pre-story to make it good (Ussop, Going Merry, Robin, Aokoji) and was all-in-all way too large. TB was too short and as mentioned before, the SA+KI+ID+WBwar arc is either too long, or too uncontained.

Another possibility could be the entire East Blue Arc. Sure, a ton of shit would get cut out, but then again a lot of the East Blue arc was pointless time wasting nonsense to give Oda enough people in each arc to face off against all the Strawhats (Don Kreig's "Pearl" anyone?)
 

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From the Ch571 spoiler discussion thread:
Going off topic and maybe even risking a ban, I must say Kaizoku has pointed out something interesting and, in my opinion, absolutely true.
There is nothing "absolute true", there's always a second point-of-view.

People are too quick to expect things out of OP and come to label anything they don't like as "fake". Talking skeleton? Fake. Duval's face? Fake. Akainu has a magma fruit? Fake. (And don't even get me started on Haki).
Well. If it comes to Duval and Akainu I can easily think of fan wishes/fake spoiler infos that actually were around in blogs and even here at MH. Duval was wished to be Don Krieg, e.g. - Akainu was said to have a rose petal DF power.

I wouldn't know what qualifies as "bashing", but if it means forcing your own opinion on others with almost no evidence, ridiculing remarks, ad homine arguments and generally calling BS on whoever has different expectations, then he's not the one doing it.
Please don't put it the other way round. Fakes, fanfiction and theories are just nothing like that. They are nice - but most of them is just confusing those, that are taking them naively for granted. Best argument therefore is: Dragon Ball AF, an April Fool that fans still are thinking of being true - or the troll spoiler by a HunterXHunter fan that shocked the OP fans by posting that Oda was gonna take a three months break (that was around Dec 2008, me thinks)

I might be kinda egoistic in that way because I'm running a One Piece Wikia - and you can never be sure to know what "fans" interpret and come up with they got from false translations, fanfiction (including fanart), fake interviews and YouTube videos unless you've seen it: fake bounties, assumption over DF names etc. That is what really is annoying, and that's the part of "those guys" I can easily understand.

So: no insults, no name-calling and absolutely no bashing and/or arrogant behaviour, but in the end no one is an infallible god. This week's spoiler discussion has been very painful. Let us just be friends and be civil with each other.:)
That's what I tried to say. Maybe a bit more bluntly. :)
 
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Hehe, I think you got me wrong.
What I was referring to as "absolutely true" is the tendency of some people to treat unusual, illogical or simply surprising spoilers as "fake" only on a like/dislike basis. Please don't tell me it doens't happen: it does. During the years, it has become a bit of a sport, maybe even a competition, among OP fans to try and make a sense of many things -so everybody has a theory on everything. This in turn generates what you have correctly named "fanfictions and theories", on which some adhere with an almost religious zeal. And, I agree with you, until proven thay're just that -ideas.
But. When reading a forum (hell, even in real life), I don't like for people to dismiss ideas only because they don't like them. Even more, there's a -very- great gap between stating that one does "not like" something and that the same thing is "stupid". Oda has a habit to anticipate/delay crucial informations on many topics, so absurd things like talking skeletons are a constant possibility -the explanation, the "non-stupid" in-world rationale, will come in due time.

So, to be perfectly clear: I don't like when people demonstrate hostility towards anyone who does not agree with them, whether on complex fanfictional theories or simply the nature of Monday spoilers. Since you run a wikia you should, out of all people, know that "nothing is true" unless it has been officially stated. :)
I won't say I expect a moderator to waltz in and enforce objectivity, but I think the least a constructive forum member could do is try not to pass what is a personal opinion as the One Truth, like in "This spoiler is a fake, s***w you if you think otherwise". It is not. It was not. Some people are wrong. They were wrong from the start. I am not referring to you, deffkryz, when I say "ridiculing remarks and ad homine arguments".
 

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So lets pretend that after the big war, whitebeard is no more. he kicks the bucket.

how many of you guys think that the whitebeard pirates will then disband and form a lot of mini sub-pirate crews.

the reason i think thisll happen is because we've had two other infamous big time pirate crews disband and dissolve into different crews because of losing the leader.
ie. rogers crew, and the sun pirates.
 

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So lets pretend that after the big war, whitebeard is no more. he kicks the bucket.

how many of you guys think that the whitebeard pirates will then disband and form a lot of mini sub-pirate crews.
Me...

the reason i think thisll happen is because we've had two other infamous big time pirate crews disband and dissolve into different crews because of losing the leader.
ie. rogers crew, and the sun pirates.
And they were much smaller as it seems, weren't they? There are 1'600 men under Whitebeard's command. Though they'd risk all for their pops and each other, it'll be a tough job to keep them all together. Though they are accepting Ace as brother/Whitebeard's son, I think he'd be too young for that job of his father. So I guess the Spade Pirates will be reestablished.
 

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the reason i think thisll happen is because we've had two other infamous big time pirate crews disband and dissolve into different crews because of losing the leader.
ie. rogers crew, and the sun pirates.
Yeah, that could happen but I think that only few would leave, their father ... the man that took care of them has a will ... which is making Ace the Pirate King. Besides, they are like brothers and this war would strengthen their relationship even more.
 

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Yeah, that could happen but I think that only few would leave, their father ... the man that took care of them has a will ... which is making Ace the Pirate King. Besides, they are like brothers and this war would strengthen their relationship even more.
while i agree that your idea is a very plausible, i still think that the "whitebeard" name is a just too big and legendary for someone to take over. I just dont see Ace taking over all the responsibilities that whitebeard has and keeping so many men in check like whitebeard.

then again this is just my opinion. although id like to believe that the whitebeard pirates are going to disband and ace might go back to the spade pirates like deffkryz suggested. After all, ace is still young, i dont see him heading the massive crew as a yonkou. Id like to think that whitebeard would want ace to live his own life and have his own adventures and ambitions as opposed to just being his replacement
 
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while i agree that your idea is a very plausible, i still think that the "whitebeard" name is a just too big and legendary for someone to take over. I just dont see Ace taking over all the responsibilities that whitebeard has and keeping so many men in check like whitebeard.
Of course Ace's just making his first steps and as you say WhiteBeard is a legendary pirate only surpassed by Roger. So Ace can never be compared with WB (which is obvious).

then again this is just my opinion. although id like to believe that the whitebeard pirates are going to disband and ace might go back to the spade pirates like deffkryz suggested. After all, ace is still young, i dont see him heading the massive crew as a yonkou. Id like to think that whitebeard would want ace to live his own life and have his own adventures and ambitions as opposed to just being his replacement
And mine as well, I can't see Ace giving orders to Jozu, Marco or Vista ...
 
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But Ace, other that his nakama and the other pirate of the NW could have the help of Shanks (because Ace is the sohn of his captain), and I also hope in Raiyleigh which He could help Ace for the same reason of Shanks (for protect the sohn of his best friend, his captain).
 

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But Ace, other that his nakama and the other pirate of the NW could have the help of Shanks (because Ace is the sohn of his captain), and I also hope in Raiyleigh which He could help Ace for the same reason of Shanks (for protect the sohn of his best friend, his captain).
right, all the more reason for ace to go on his own with his own unique crew.
the whitebeard pirates (imo) are not gonna be the whitebeard pirates without whitebeard.

it would be like the straw hats calling themselves the straw hat pirates without luffy. zoro himself once stated that if luffy weren't his captain then hed have no reason to be a pirate any more, or something along those lines.

same goes for the roger and sun pirates. its the type of thing where if your leader is gone, theres no reason to keep going, especially using his name.
 

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Am I dreaming, one piece has more replies than naruto and bleach combined?


lol, anyways WB was struck in the heart... as he explained.. he has only one heart so he cannot par with 3 admirals as someone is disappointed bout. But thinking that the admirals have a hard time killing him and most of the marines focus on WB, ... that is more disappointing, no one can easily kill the old man lol
 

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I expect the "Ace pirates" will largely be formed from the remainder of the Whitebeard crew. But, as mentioned, it will probably break up a bit. Even if it's Whitebeard's dying wish that Ace takes over, I doubt all 1600 of his crew is going to nod and agree to it, not to mention his new world allies.

On one hand, I can see Marco, Joz and Vista taking orders from Ace. On the other hand, I can also see them being captured/killed alongside Whitebeard. Especially if you look at the state Marco and Joz are in, they're probably equal to Whitebeard in damage (Joz lost one arm and is frozen, Marco has been shot with about five piercing lasers and has seastone now).

The only reason I'd bank on Joz surviving is because he's made of diamond and will be needed at some point to prove Mihawk superiority or Zoro's growth.
 

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The only reason I'd bank on Joz surviving is because he's made of diamond and will be needed at some point to prove Mihawk superiority or Zoro's growth.
Lol! I can just picture this, Instead of dueling it out, Zoro and Mihawk take turns trying to cut Joz. :XD

Rules:
1. This is a contest of skill, so to eliminate the advantage of weapons, both parties will use either a bokken or shinai (or 3 if that is how your skill works).

2. Joz is allowed to fight, flee or just ignore you, depending on his preference.
 

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hey guys is it me, or did anyone else was sure that whitebeard had haki? i mean, he has fought all 3 admirals and didnt use it once to cut them or kill them. i was sure whitebeard had it, because rayleigh had it. and i thought that the worlds strongest man would possess this skill. im disapointed, really disapointed. and i doubt that hes reserving it for later cause marco and joz used it already(yes they used it, it doesnt say but they both hit an admiral) and he would do anything to save ace.
 
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