Discussion The top 5 nen users excluding Meruem

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Do you guys think one of the Top 5 nen users has already appeared or mentioned?

I am pretty sure that Gin Freecs is one of the current Top 5.
But of the other ones that have appeared, I would say that maybe Silva. Because he is probably at his prime right now, whereas Zeno probably is not.

What I also think is that maybe Kuroro and Hisoka are top 5.

Do you guys think that it is known exactly who are the top 5 nen users today?
Because I have the feeling that there are some people hiding their strength and just because of that they are not recognized as top 5 in the HxH universe. I think Hisoka is one of those.
 

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from those we've seen so far:

-ging
-netero
-silva/kuroro/zeno
 

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Raiser was super strong too!
 

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I imagine at least one of the 3 star hunters is on the list.
 

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Who are the three star hunters? I suppose Gin is one of them.
 

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Gin is only a 2 star hunter but he has the qualifications to be a 3 star hunter.
 

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Gin is only a 2 star hunter but he has the qualifications to be a 3 star hunter.
Its not proved that he is only a two star Hunter. All we know is that he once had a two star Hunter License, but then Kaito had it. And this was years ago. Its possible that he rised up to a three star Hunter in the meantime.
 

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Its not proved that he is only a two star Hunter. All we know is that he once had a two star Hunter License, but then Kaito had it. And this was years ago. Its possible that he rised up to a three star Hunter in the meantime.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he was a 3 star hunter it just hasn't been revealed yet.
 

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I thought hunter licenses could not be re-issued... what sort of position does gin have that he gets to be a hunter even without having his hunter license?
 

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You don't need a Hunter license to be a Hunter. That's why some people are called 'pro hunters'.

Also, Gin is most probably not 3 stars, as kite said 'he would compare not unfavorably to 3 stars hunters'.
 

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But the license is still the one and only proof someone has of being a hunter and the only means to access information only accessible to hunters. Not sure what you mean by the pro hunter bit though.
 

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OMG! If Gin is not even one of the 3 star hunters, I believe that the power level still far from the summit of power!
If that is the case, it might be possible that there exists hunters that can alone beat Meruem. Anyone with me?
HunterxHunter universe is HUGE! I would not be surprised if there are some people stronger than Meruem.
 

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There are "Hunters" and "hunters".

"Hunters" are officially recognized by the Hunter Association, and are given the benefits of being recognized by that body, and "hunters" are people who just... hunt. Hunt anything, like treasure, lost areas, rare creatures, dreams, even fathers. That's where the idea "pro hunters" come in, the one Tombadger tells us about.

It's possible "hunters" and other people that aren't necessarily "hunters" have been trained with Nen. It's proven, in fact. Illumi learned Nen before passing as a Hunter. Probably Hisoka as well. So yes there are plenty of "hunters" with Nen or non-"hunters" that are nen-users. It's even possible that geniuses that do not train their Nen have the ability to impart nen through small signatures they unconsciously imbue the items they concentrate upon. But it's very likely that those people are not going to be as strong as Zeno (probably not a "Hunter" but a "nen-user") or Netero by a long shot. Because the Zoldick family wouldn't be a notorious name if they were not among the strongest in the world already. The Ryodan also has a great reputation and thus it's likely not many people have climbed to their level. The manga has always given us the impression that most Nen-users are untrained and are going to be weak or mediocre because of their individual pursuits (money, fame, etc.). Even nen-Trained Hunters aren't that good (Pokkle).

The idea here is that it's more likely that nen-users aren't going to be as strong as the Ging, the Ryodan, and the Zoldicks than the slight possibility of some groups of people being stronger than them. And that the Hunter Association-recognized "Hunters" are the ones who have a better shot at climbing at their level because they are going to be trained and have more opportunities to be strong. Uber Gon is the strongest Human we've seen so far and I don't even think Ging Freecs himself is that strong (I'm waiting to be disproved by hard evidence though).

It's highly unlikely that someone is going to top Meryem. I'm allowing my imagination to be restrained by the overtone of the manga that there isn't many who ae going to climb at Zeno's level, even, and so I wouldn't bet on anyone being stronger than him at any time. If anyone's going to be stronger than him they should have an Active and Passive Aura Power higher than him the day that they're born and that their Nen-abilities should obviously be enabled. The ants are the only ones so far that I know that are born with their nen already activated. Plus it's obvious that the ones who can fight him (Netero) had to train for years to accomplish the level they have. What if Meryem trains for that many years? Therefore, it's really unlikely that anyone's ever going to top Meryem.

About the Hunter License issue, I agree with the post that says the Hunter License cannt be reissued. I think I've read it somewhere before but I don't know which chapter iand page it is for proof. I'm going to do some digging then.

EDIT: Some relevant and semi relevant recommended readings for easy access that I found:

http://www.mangareader.net/207-14014-9/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-5.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14016-16/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-7.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14044-6/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-35.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14044-7/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-35.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14046-17/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-37.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14046-18/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-37.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14047-13/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-38.html
http://www.mangareader.net/207-14047-14/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-38.html

Ging couldn't have been a 3-star Hunter before he lost his card otherwise the card will indicate that he is indeed a 3-star Hunter and not just a 2-star one.
 
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Well, the star thing has little to do with being powerful in general. Remember tsezugera from the greed island arc? The guy was nothing special as a nen user, heck gon and killua would actually have given him a run for his money. Yet, he was a one star hunter. You don't become a stared hunter due to your nen levels, you become one through your accomplishments. Of course a stared hunter is bound to be skilled but overall I would consider the situation mildly similar to bounties in OP.
 
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Well, the star thing has little to do with being powerful in general. Remember tsezugera from the greed island arc? The guy was nothing special as a nen user, heck gon and killua would actually have given him a run for his money. Yet, he was a one star hunter. You don't become a stared hunter due to your nen levels, you become one through your accomplishments. Of course a stared hunter is bound to be skilled but overall I would consider the situation mildly similar to bounties in OP.
that's what i thought, too. Being a Star Hunter does not say much about your nen power, i think.

b2t: I think we don't know most of the top 5 yet. Gin is probably one of them, silver and kuroro maybe too, but i don't think that hisoka is on the list. Just my feeling...
 

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I guess it kinda depends.... For one thing, within human levels the amount of nen is not what is important. Murao, hisoka, kuroro, other ryodan members, kaito.... as far as basic nen abilities are concerned it is very likely that they have very similar levels. Even if that were to not be the case it is very likely fights between them would in themselves be very close. Even bisk would likely be of the same level of people you just mentioned, she is 50 years old after all, she has had more than enough time to more than master nen (even if her ability has no battle applications so far).

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now that I think about it, there is an issue as far as comparing those who we know.... What is our measuring scale so far? For the most part gon and killua since they are pretty much the weakest guys around. Their nen level gets praised every now and then but it also gets immediately shut down. Based on what we have seen from gon and killua, is there a skill difference between bisk, murao, knuckle, hisoka and a number of other people they have fought? I would argue that no... Gon and killua are remarkably weak in the grand scheme of things, by all intents and purposes novices at best. Remember the knuckle fights? Gon fought knuckle a number of times. After each fight he got a bit stronger due to bisk's training as we saw. He increased his nen significantly to say the least as he went from maintaining his ren from little under an hour to easily over an hour. Of course for a reinforcement type like gon such an improvement is significant, and what was the result of it? Knuckle beat the crap out of gon with ease. Basically, as much as gon's strength has improved through the manga he still has not gotten to a point where he could be considered strong in the grand scheme of things. Seriously, isn't it kinda strange that knuckle, and gensuru at large did beat the crap out of gon with the same ease? Gon only won against gensuru because he prepared thoroughly for that fight in all honesty, other than that it was clear gon could not even land a punch.... Now, does this necessarly suggest that people like gensuru or knuckle would stand a chance against hisoka? Not really actually. What I am ultimately trying to say is that we have no idea of how much of a difference there is between people who have been shown to be capable of beating the crap out of gon and killua.

Another interesting point is that people at times have argued that the ryodan is not so strong because they had trouble against the ants. Does this make a lot of sense though? We actually saw a couple of ants give people like murao or knuckle a decent bit of trouble. This is significant as murao is easily one of the strongest nen users we have seen (to the point where he is still knuckles teacher). Based on this I would argue that gon and killua are lucky they did not run into ant captains or commanders as they would have been killed considering the trouble they gave the ryodan or murao....
 

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Alright...
i just read these sites wich NoFreakingWay posted:
..and from these we know that the Card Kaito lost was not the License Card from Gin, but the Certificate for the Two Star Hunter. The Number wich is on is the Number the Hunter get after he finished the Hunter Exam, and this Card is simply nothing more than something like a "proof" that he accomplished great enough things that he went to be a two star hunter.
Its kinda worthless i guess, because the information is also on the original Hunter License.
So i think that after you accomplish the one or two star Hunter level, you wont get a new license but the certificate for rising up to be one with the original Hunter ID on it.
There is no Two Star Hunter Exam, the Exam Number is the Number from the ordinary Hunter Exam, wich is printed on the Certificate.
Forthermore, Kaito told gon that Gin was often compared ti the three star hunters, but then he hunted him to be a "real" hunter. And within all the Time from the Point where Gin and Kaito meet to the moment now Gin could be risen to be a three star Hunter already.
I mean why should a certificate card with his number on it have the information of what happened after it was given to the person. Its just something like an honor badge. No wonder Gin gave it away. Because he still has his Hunterlicense.
 
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