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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Murata has presented the color page of his new work (he said it is one shot). It is still unknown on which mangazine it'll be released at.
this one looks gorgeous. maybe a historical typ set in a desert style country, like aladin?

offtopic: does anyone know which chapter of nuraryhion is cover up in the second season? i want to read the manga after the last one, it's a accurat adaption or not?
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Murata has presented the color page of his new work (he said it is one shot). It is still unknown on which mangazine it'll be released at.
Is this the same Murata that illustrated Eyeshield 21?
That's a very nice page :3 I hope the oneshot does well
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Is this the same Murata that illustrated Eyeshield 21?
Yes, he is.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

The second season of Nurarihyon is fillerless so far and I believe that it will be up to the end of it, if you haven't read the chapters that comprise the first season yet saw the first season I would suggest that you'd at least read the arc that covers the second half of it which is somewhere about chapter 20-47.

The chapters that comprise the second season would probably be 48-132(plus the first chapter that is episode 1) and there is extra footage that is not being animated, the animation of this season is great yet it would probably have a much better pace if it was done as a 52/64 episodes from the get go by this director. (the director of the first series in known for distorting good manga's stories such as Hoshin Engi and Samurai Deeper Kyo)
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

I’m thinking of posting those regularly, because I find it interesting what our counterparts on 2chan are thinking about the “ToC” ranking. I find this thread appropriate for it but if the mods don’t think so, I can open a new thread for it. I thought about opening a new thread for it where our forum can do the same but there are two problems:
1) It was already done once and the participation was really really low
2) Not all series get Edited Manga and some Edited Mangas are weeks late

Bear in mind that the following ranking are not an actual reflection on how the series will do when the actual rankings come out but only a nice little pastime for very few people on 2chan.

How does it work?
They give every series they read a score between 1(the lowest), 5(the highest) and 0 for unread series.

What do the numbers mean?
The first column is the sum of all scores
The second column is the number of people who have read the series and given points
The third column is the average rating from ALL the people, including those who have not read it. (First column divided by number of participants)
The fourth column is the average rating from those people who have read the series. (First column divided by the second column)

Bear in mind that the following “ranking” is for issue 49. The one where there was no One Piece. The Japanese are getting their WSJ on Monday (5 days AFTER we get the Edited Mangas) and the ranking process is 1 week long until the next WSJ comes out. By the way, the numbers of participants for Issue 48 were 88 people

Issue 49:
Number of participants: 91
Absent series: One Piece


Code:
01) Hunter  		(393) (89) (4.31) (4.41) 
02) Toriko              (259) (89) (2.84) (2.91) 
03) Medaka  		(245) (80) (2.69) (3.06) 
04) Kagami no Kuni 	(242) (82) (2.65) (2.95) 
05) Naruto	        (239) (76) (2.62) (3.14) 
06) Inumarudashi 	(236) (77) (2.59) (3.06) 
07) Bakuman 		(200) (86) (2.19) (2.32) 
08) Kuroko 		(195) (75) (2.14) (2.60) 
09) Nisekoi		(195) (81) (2.14) (2.40) 
10) Kochikame		(195) (75) (2.14) (2.60) 
11) Magico		(190) (69) (2.08) (2.75) 
12) Bleach		(182) (82) (2.00) (2.21) 
13) Gintama 		(179) (71) (1.96) (2.52) 
14) Stars 		(163) (70) (1.79) (2.32) 
15) Sket Dance 	        (162) (75) (1.78) (2.16) 
16) Reborn		(152) (53) (1.67) (2.86) 
17) Beelzebub 	        (151) (75) (1.65) (2.01) 
18) Kurogane		(139) (71) (1.52) (1.95) 
19) Mago		(124) (57) (1.36) (2.17) 
20) Pakki		(123) (70) (1.35) (1.75)
Source:
【49号集計結果・得点順に並び替え/91レス中】
(総得点数) (評価数) (未読を0とした平均得点) (評価数の中での平均得点)

1.ハンタ ..……(393) (89) (4.31) (4.41)
2.トリコ ....…(259) (89) (2.84) (2.91)
3.めだか..……(245) (80) (2.69) (3.06)
4.鏡の国.......…(242) (82) (2.65) (2.95)
5.ナルト . .....…(239) (76) (2.62) (3.14)
6.まるだし ...…(236) (77) (2.59) (3.06)
7.バクマン....…(200) (86) (2.19) (2.32)
8.黒子 ………(195) (75) (2.14) (2.60)
9.ニセコイ . …(195) (81) (2.14) (2.40)
10.こち亀 .......…(195) (75) (2.14) (2.60)
11.マジコ . .....…(190) (69) (2.08) (2.75)
12.ブリーチ . …(182) (82) (2.00) (2.21)
13.銀魂 ………(179) (71) (1.96) (2.52)
14.スターズ . …(163) (70) (1.79) (2.32)
15.スケット......…(162) (75) (1.78) (2.16)
16.リボーン . …(152) (53) (1.67) (2.86)
17.べるぜ ......…(151) (75) (1.65) (2.01)
18.クロガネ....…(139) (71) (1.52) (1.95)
19.ぬらり....……(124) (57) (1.36) (2.17)
20.バッキー. .…(123) (70) (1.35) (1.75)

満足度(評価数の中での平均得点の平均)=2.60
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

I’m thinking of posting those regularly, because I find it interesting what our counterparts on 2chan are thinking about the “ToC” ranking. I find this thread appropriate for it but if the mods don’t think so, I can open a new thread for it. I thought about opening a new thread for it where our forum can do the same but there are two problems:
1)It was already done once and the participation was really really low
2)Not all series get Edited Manga and some Edited Mangas are weeks late
I think it's a good idea, I would vote but i'll wait to see if another thread is created or we do it in this one.

Alternate Jump Issue #51 Preview

 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Knowing what 2ch thinks would be pretty interesting because they're older than the average reader of WSJ and tend to be pretty cynical. Regardless of that message board's reputation, their unofficial rankings should provide some food for thought.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2



Jump #50 (21/11) :
Medaka Box (Lead Color Page, Anime Details)
One Piece
Gintama
Bakuman
Reborn!
Gensōn! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Packy (Color Page)
Toriko
Nisekoi (23 pg.)
Sket Dance (Cover, Color Page)
Kurogane
Kuroko no Basket
PSI Kusuo Saiki (Color Page, One Shot)
Nurarihyon no Mago
Bleach
Kochikame
Inumaru Dashi
Hunter x Hunter
Beelzebub
Magico
Harisugawa in Mirror world
ST&RS
Naruto (On Break)

#51:
Lead CP: Kochikame
CP: Bleach, Kurogane

One Piece in Jump #51 celebrates 15 years of serialization with a special page
Sket Dance and Medaka having color is good. Although I wish Akira Akatsuki had done a little bit more with his but oh well.

I'm good with One Piece, Toriko, and Bakuman in the top 5. Actually, I'm even good with Reborn in it as well. The Arcobaleno arc has been entertaining and better than that last atrocious arc was.

Bleach is low but no surprises there. Boring arc is still boring even with the Shinigami back in it. I find myself just wanting it to end already since it largely felt like a massive waste of time.

Sad to see Magico and Harisugawa at the bottom 3. Once ST&RS dies those two will probably slug it out. I'm not too surprised by Beelzebub's struggles as of late. I haven't been impressed with the series for a while now.

Gainax confirmed for the Medaka Box anime.

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-5289.html
As we all thought it would be when the rumors first surfaced. Gainax better knock this one out of the park.

Hmm it would seem there is a 3rd project for Medaka Box besides the novel and anime: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...edaka-box-has-3rd-project-besides-anime-novel

I;m curious as to what it could be, but it'll probably be something obvious(part of me hopes for fighting game, just because of how over the top it could be). Kind of nice to see it get so much recognition after struggling so long to get popular, but now that it is I guess JUMP plans to milk the NisiOshin name for all it's worth.
I'm personally hoping for an art book but I've been clamoring for that for years now lol. It wouldn't surprise me if its a game or something else.

A new One Piece Movie was announced last night after the televesion broadcasting of Strong World.

Source ->HERE<- or ->HERE<-
Oh? If this is set in the New World it has my interest. Especially if it isn't just a movie I can feel free to ignore like I did with some of the other ones.

Murata has presented the color page of his new work (he said it is one shot). It is still unknown on which mangazine it'll be released at.

I'm curious about what the plot and setting for this is. I love his art but definitely hope his story telling has improved over the last one shot of his that I read.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

The colour page released by Murata is only a portion of the colour page and is not the full thing. I can't wait to see the whole colour page and I really hope that they decide to run the oneshot in Shounen Jump

January 4th Jump Comic Releases
(Possibility of this not being the final list exists, final list will be confirmed on December 2nd)

Gintama #43
Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn! #37
Bakuman #16
ST&RS #2
Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa #1

As a frequent Amazon viewer, Kagami no Kuni has ranked higher in its first day up than Magico vol.3 and Kurogane vol.1 ever, which have been listed on Amazon for about month and come out on sale a month before Kagami.

I hope Kagami has a really good cover considering the volume is a bit late, can't wait to purchase it and Nisekoi when it comes on sale :D
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

The Japanese are getting their WSJ on Monday (5 days AFTER we get the Edited Mangas)
Logic does not work here. Obviously we got our raws from the Japanese people, so some of them got their WSJ 6 days earlier than everybody? (i am assuming they are subscribers). Why's the 6 days gap? they are like begging for people to search for raws/spoilers on the net before buying the hardcopy, and nudge people seeking internet fame to post raws/spoiler.
the system is... very funny.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Logic does not work here. Obviously we got our raws from the Japanese people, so some of them got their WSJ 6 days earlier than everybody? (i am assuming they are subscribers). Why's the 6 days gap? they are like begging for people to search for raws/spoilers on the net before buying the hardcopy, and nudge people seeking internet fame to post raws/spoiler.
the system is... very funny.
It is basically like this:

Jump goes to press on Tuesday and is delivered to stores on Friday. That applies to international stores as well, whether Chinese or American. Stores are not supposed to sell until Monday but will frequently let regular customers buy early. That is why Jump Edited Mangas started coming out on Thursday/Friday in the days before Mangastream. I am not sure of how Mangastream gets raws so early though. Copies are printed by then, the finished product has circulated around Shueisha's offices by then. It is possible their raw providor has some connection that allows them to get a copy before the issue is shipped. That is why we have always received new spoilers early in the week, Ohana and the other spoiler providors see copies right after they have printed. I may not be right, but that is my best guess. The only other possibility that I can think of is that copies are shipped early to China, and intercepted there.

From what I understand subscription rates in Japan are very low. Most readers just buy the new issue during the morning commute.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

That is why we have always received new spoilers early in the week, Ohana and the other spoiler providors see copies right after they have printed. I may not be right, but that is my best guess. The only other possibility that I can think of is that copies are shipped early to China, and intercepted there.

From what I understand subscription rates in Japan are very low. Most readers just buy the new issue during the morning commute.
From ohana's and T's comments over at 2ch we know that they both buy WSJ from stores. Most recently, T said that the stores selling early were told not to, but his store still sells to reliable customers (and ohana also commented that her brother was running to the store to pick the mag up for her).

My guess is that they ship the magazine on Tuesdays or maybe even Mondays so that even the stores at not easily accessible places can get it on time, but who knows.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

IIRC Ohana or T once said that they bought their Jump issue from a liquor store..
 

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34 :T ◆27p9/DnZE//X :2011/11/22(火) 18:04:03.32 発信元:218.46.108.181
忘れてた
ドべ5
針栖川
ぬらり
ベルゼ
スターズ
リボーン


巻頭バクマン


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こちかめ針栖川ぬらり
Issue 51 Bottom 5:
Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
St&rs
Beelzebub
Nurarihyon no mago
Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa

Issue 1:
Lead CP: Bakuman。
CP: Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo, Nurarihyon no Mago, Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa
 

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aaand harisugawa falls...ya good thing i didnt start it but i feel bad for the fans oh well maybe its just this week. surprised to see reborn so low since its been ranking good since the shimon arc ended. also surprised to see hxh finally out of the bottom five which is great. aside from those no surpises.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

WSJ Issue #51 Cover:

 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

From Ohana

285 :ohana ◆IR7jauNn4E :2011/11/22(火) 19:01:01.58 ID:FdDE6khAP
大掃除してた~

表紙、巻頭 こち亀
ワンピ
ナルト
バクマン
トリコ
ブリーチ C
パッキー
ニセコイ
いぬまる
銀球
黒子
クロガネ C
マジコ
スケット
めだか
ハンター
リボーン
スターズ
ベルゼ
ぬらり
鏡の国


新年1号は バクマンが巻頭
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

From Ohana

285 :ohana ◆IR7jauNn4E :2011/11/22(火) 19:01:01.58 ID:FdDE6khAP
大掃除してた~

表紙、巻頭 こち亀
ワンピ
ナルト
バクマン
トリコ
ブリーチ C
パッキー
ニセコイ
いぬまる
銀球
黒子
クロガネ C
マジコ
スケット
めだか
ハンター
リボーン
スターズ
ベルゼ
ぬらり
鏡の国


新年1号は バクマンが巻頭
Shounen Jump Issue #51 TOC
Kochikame (Lead CP, Cover)
One Piece
Naruto
Bakuman
Toriko
Bleach (Center Colour)
Pakki
Nisekoi
Inumaru Dashi
Gintama
Kuroko no Basket
Kurogane (Center Colour)
Magico
Sket Dance
Medaka Box
Hunter x Hunter
Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn!
ST&RS
Beelzebub
Nurarihyon no Mago
Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa

Next Issue, Shounen Jump Issue #1 Information

Lead CP: Bakuman
Center Colour: Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa, Nurarihyon no Mago, Kochikame

---------- Post added at 08:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

Weekly Shounen Jump 2011 Statistics​

New Series: 10
Cancelled Series: 7
Naturally Ending Series: 0

2011 Lead CP’s
Compulsory New Series – 10
One Piece – 7
Toriko - 6
Naruto – 5
Bleach – 3
Sket Dance – 3
Kochikame - 3
Bakuman - 2
Gintama – 2
Beelzebub - 2
Kuroko no Basket - 1
Enigma - 1
Hunter X Hunter – 1
Medaka Box – 1
Inumaru Dashi - 0
Nurarihyon no Mago – 0
Hitman Reborn! – 0

2011 Center Colour’s
One Shot - 26
Kochikame - 12
Compulsory New Series – 10
Beelzebub - 9
Bleach – 8
Gintama - 7
Bakuman – 6
Hitman Reborn! – 6
Nurarihyon no Mago – 6
Medaka Box – 6
Enigma - 5
Sket Dance – 5
Kuroko no Basket - 4
Magico - 4
ST&RS - 2
Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa - 2
Toriko – 2
Inumaru Dashi - 2
Kurogane - 2
Hunter X Hunter – 1
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami - 1
One Piece & Naruto – 0

2011 Series Absences
Hunter X Hunter – 31
One Piece – 5
Naruto - 1
Bleach – 1
Toriko - 1
Inumaru Dashi - 1
Bakuman – 1

Total Absences = 41
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Packy just started right?
I excited to see how much "color" kubo will use(what waste giving the man a page to color).
Bakuman is doing well,its good toc overall (naruto is bit too high).

Edit:Packy already started while back,hmm didnt notice.
 
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It's interesting that Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa gets a CP next week. This either means it recovers from the bottom and does fairly well or Jump WANTS it to survive like Kuroko.
I’m also starting to worry about Beelzebub. This is the fifth week straight that it is in the bottom 5. It may not be in danger of cancellation in the near future but it’s not in a good postion either.

Packy just started right?
Yes Pakki just started. It is a short gag Manga like Inumaru but the reception is so bad that it is PROBABLY soon getting canceled anyway.
I excited to see how much "color" kubo will use(what waste giving the man a page to color).
Lol I thought the exact same thing, but I guess the reason why he gets so many CP is BECAUSE he puts barely any color in them and therefore does them fast. I mean look at the Manga with the most CP. I don’t think Mangaka even like to do CP. I mean it is already hard enough to do 17-19 pages a week without CP which are really time consuming if you do them right.
I have seen Kubo doing a Ichigo portrait in color in a very short amount of time. Does anyone have the Link to it?
 
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