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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Sket Dance: :worrybunny
Gintama: :dancin

Glad to see ST&RS rising. It looks like Japanese readers are tired of Kagami no Kuni. When do you think is the next cancellation?
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

HxH 31 absences lol... And Oda is slowly becoming lazy like Tohashi XD
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Glad to see ST&RS rising. It looks like Japanese readers are tired of Kagami no Kuni. When do you think is the next cancellation?
Based on the recent years If a new series doesn't start on Issue #1, which there isn't, there is an extremely high chance that a new series will not start until atleast Issue #10 - #13 and when they do it should be a batch of 2-4 series. (Most likely not 4)

There is also a possibility HUNGRY JOKER will start in the first batch. If Joker does start, It will be the first series of the batch, just like all the other Golden Future Cup Series.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Bleach don't deserve so many cps.
I can't believe nura rose and fell like that :scry
and Beelze too..I really hope that the next few chapters helps it raise.
Seems like Magico will survive the year.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Interesting week, although the amount of unranked series makes it kind of hard to see where some series actually placed this week. Seems Beelzebub is still getting punished for that training arc, and Reborn's down there too. Also looks like Sket Dance has been knocked down a bit too. Of course none of these series are in any real danger so it doesn't matter anyway.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

magico got out of the bottom again, hooray! but reborn hit the bottom five, darn it!
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

I am surprised to see that other mangaka from Jump did not take many breaks this year. One Piece does not seem to have much, but a break once in a while sure is killer. Though compared to the others, One Piece really is a champ. Naruto I think has a break when an arc ends and Kishi needs to gather data or something. For One Piece it is different, Oda has other reasons, though this year it was sickness, last year mostly family.

And ironically enough One Piece also get the most color pages, which is understandable because of the ToC ranking I guess?
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

I am surprised to see that other mangaka form Jump did not take many breaks this year. One Piece does not seem to have much, but a break once in a while sure is killer. Though compared to the others, One Piece really is a champ. Naruto I think has a break when an arc ends and Kishi needs to gather data or something. For One Piece it is different, Oda has other reasons, though this year it was sickness, last year mostly family.

And ironically enough One Piece also get the most color pages, which is understandable because of the ToC ranking I guess?
Kishi always takes one week every fall IIRC.

One break a year is still not much. Mangaka work almost nonstop, shut in their studios for the whole day. THey get breaks with double issues, but that still isn't that much. Normal working person gets 4-5 weeks for holidays granted (here), so it's understandable.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

So in other words, Kishi takes breaks when it's his birthday month?? spoiled brat:-_-

The reason I'm slightly ticked is because this year he used a really bad cliffhanger.....
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Excuse my bad math >.>

2011 Series Absences
Hunter X Hunter: 31
One Piece: 5
Naruto: 1
Bleach: 1
Toriko: 1
Inumaru Dashi: 1
Bakuman: 1
Total Absences = 41

2010 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 28
One Piece: 8
Naruto: 3
Bleach: 3
Toriko: 2
Gintama: 2
Bakuman: 1
Total Absences = 47

2009 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 47
D.Gray-Man: 12
One Piece: 7
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 3
Toriko: 2
Naruto: 1
Bleach: 1
Total Absences = 73

2008 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 28
D.Gray-Man: 8
One Piece: 4
Naruto: 2
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 1
Bleach: 1
Gintama: 1
Barihaken: 1
Total Absences = 46

2007 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 41
D.Gray-Man: 9
Prince of Tennis: 6
One Piece: 4
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 4
Shinsetsu Bobobo: 1
Total Absences = 65

2006 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 44
D.Gray-Man: 17
Prince of Tennis: 16
Beshari Gurashi: 7
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 5
One Piece: 4
Shinsetsu Bobobo: 2
Death Note: 1
Gintama: 1
Naruto: 1
Mr. Fullswing: 1
Total Absences = 99

2005 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 17
Death Note: 8
D.Gray-Man: 6
Prince of Tennis: 3
One Piece: 3
Naruto: 3
Busou Renkin: 2
Bleach: 2
Bobobo: 2
Beshari Gurashi: 1
Mr. Fullswing: 1
Total Absences: 55

2004 Series Absences
Hunter x Hunter: 26
Busou Renkin: 8
Mr. Fullswing: 5
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 5
Prince of Tennis: 4
One Piece: 3
Naruto: 3
Bleach: 2
Shaman King: 2
Death Note: 1
Black Cat: 1
Total Absences: 60

2003 Series Absences
Rookies: 14
Hunter x Hunter: 10
Mr. Fullswing: 5
Shaman King: 4
Hikaru no Go: 4
Prince of Tennis: 3
One Piece:3
Yu-Gi-Oh: 3
Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar: 3
Black Cat: 2
Kanagawa: 2
Ichigo 100%: 1
Pretty Face: 1
Busou Renkin: 1
Total Absences: 57
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

i am late to the party but..

based on Kaiten and other people's explanation, that means the content of the magazine is leaked a week before the official release date. x__x;;
Gee, if i were a WSJ staff i would be concerned. I heard they sent c&d order to raw providers, so i assume this is a big problem for them. But maybe Edited Mangas don't pose much threat because i have an impression the majority of Japanese ppl don't understand English (i didn't mean offense to anyone here). And if i were a japanese i wouldn't like reading fan translation anyway (because they tend to be less accurate than the original).
I wonder when do subscribers get their copies...
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

The one thing that Jump currently lack is permanent cushion series. Because there are currently no series (like most of 2010 series) that protect other series, so the last place is always keep changing.

So far, main candidates that to be axed next will be St&rs and Kagami (but I'm not sure about this one again, since it is getting color next issue); in order for one of them to survive, Hunter has to go hiatus and I, presonally, thinkg I'm going to be glad that if Hunter goes back to hiatus.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

WTF?! Why did Prince of Tennis had so many absences in 2006?? Did it had a break like Naruto, ONE PIECE did when they started PART 2 or was the author sick??
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Kishi always takes one week every fall IIRC.

One break a year is still not much. Mangaka work almost nonstop, shut in their studios for the whole day. THey get breaks with double issues, but that still isn't that much. Normal working person gets 4-5 weeks for holidays granted (here), so it's understandable.
Oda does that. He takes good enough breaks through out the years. It seems his breaks really became more present in 2010 with Strong World, though the number of breaks is more present after 2006 a year where he did not take a break.^^

The others are really workaholics, if I can use the term to describe them more properly, they just love their series or are in a more early stage, Oda has currently one of the longest series running in Jump. Kishi is odd though he does not seem to take a break although he has passed the 10 year mark of his series as well. :p
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

WTF?! Why did Prince of Tennis had so many absences in 2006?? Did it had a break like Naruto, ONE PIECE did when they started PART 2 or was the author sick??
The author had illness on 2006, so Prince of Tennis went a hiatus for a while.

Also, Jump authors don't take many absents as compare to Magazine and Sunday authors, since they have more series than Jump.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Were the 3 weeklys, Jump, Sunday and Magazine always at the size that they are today?

Jump with 20 series, Magazine with +-30 series and Sunday with 25 or have there been some changes?

If so what would you guess is the reason for instance that Jump doesn't increase their series number to 24 or 25?
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

@Susanno:
First of all I never realized that both Sunday and Magazine had that many series..
According to wiki Sunday has 27, Magazine 28 and JUMP has 21.

I don't think JUMP should change its number of run series from 21 to 25 or something like that, its one of the few manga magazine which circulation has rose (If only a little bit) so as the saying says "If its not broken, don´t fix it".

My guess is that its due to JUMP policies of cutting the series that don´t rank too hot early on their run. That way they only get the very best (In the opinion of the TOC voters) continue to run on JUMP.

Maybe its Sunday and Magazine that should try to reduce the number of series and make more strict requirements for authors to publish or focus more on the votings?
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Looking at it the lists I just remembered that Naruto's not getting any CPs anymore.Wonder why.

And lol at Togashi.
So in other words, Kishi takes breaks when it's his birthday month?? spoiled brat:-_-

The reason I'm slightly ticked is because this year he used a really bad cliffhanger.....
I hope that was a joke...
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

I don’t think Mangaka even like to do CP. I mean it is already hard enough to do 17-19 pages a week without CP which are really time consuming if you do them right.
I have seen Kubo doing a Ichigo portrait in color in a very short amount of time. Does anyone have the Link to it?
Mangaka are paid by the page, they are paid more money for color pages - so the more color pages an artist draw per year, the higher the salary. Mangaka want to do as many color pages a year as Shueisha will let them. Bleach gets more than other series because of how reliable Kubo is - he never takes break, submits every chapter on time, and always submits nice pages.

Bleach color pages are fantastic, other than Bleach hate I can't understand why anyone would dislike them. They are always well drawn, well composed, and creative. I think that Naruto and Sket Dance are the only current manga with better color pages.

i am late to the party but..

based on Kaiten and other people's explanation, that means the content of the magazine is leaked a week before the official release date. x__x;;
Gee, if i were a WSJ staff i would be concerned. I heard they sent c&d order to raw providers, so i assume this is a big problem for them. But maybe Edited Mangas don't pose much threat because i have an impression the majority of Japanese ppl don't understand English (i didn't mean offense to anyone here). And if i were a japanese i wouldn't like reading fan translation anyway (because they tend to be less accurate than the original).
I wonder when do subscribers get their copies...
Early raws present a real problem for Shueisha. At one point 60% of Mangahelpers traffic was from Japan, they were coming to read raws when Kylara or (later) Vic posted them on Friday. In the spring of 2010 Shueisha placed a blurb on the Jump TOC page essentially threatening raw providers, saying how annoyed they were in no uncertain terms. That is what prompted us to remove raws and prompted the closure of raw paradise. Mangastream does not release their raws publicly so non-English speakers have to wait until public raws are available, later in the week, but still earlier than available to the Japanese public. Edited Mangas are blamed for declining sales of licensed manga, which conveniently was not a problem until the economy crashed. Raws are the problem, and one that publishers are truly pissed off about, in the domestic Japanese market.

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Oda does that. He takes good enough breaks through out the years. It seems his breaks really became more present in 2010 with Strong World, though the number of breaks is more present after 2006 a year where he did not take a break.^^
He always takes a break near the end of an arc, or right after. He's averaged about four or five weeks off a year since I started reading. He did take a two week break between the end of the War and beginning of Part II, something I don't recall him doing before. But I am not sure where the angst is coming from right now, taking breaks here and there is something he has been doing for years.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

R4n very late, they got angry, have send C&D letters and it all happened months ago. :p

Edited Mangas exist because there are raw providers... in that sense RAWs are the root of evil and scans are the unwanted bastard children.^^ You would be shocked to know how many japanese visit international Edited Manga sites. Over 50% of the visitors on my old ****** blog *cough* came from japan. Free is free, it's not like they are different from us in that aspect.

edit: need to stop watching something while writing posts... what Kaiten wrote.
 
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