Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011 - 2012] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SSJWill4]

Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Bokke bottomed out as soon as Asklepius and Meister were canceled. Both series cushioned Bokke, which rarely ranked higher than sixth or seventh from bottom. That was also the period when To Love Ru and Neuro were permanent bottom five for six months or more, without being canceled. A lot of new series seemed to be safer than they were, as only the most pathetic fell into the bottom five immediately. Bokke is also a case of an easily replaced action/fantasy manga.

I think we can both agree that this is not an exact science. You can pull a bunch of different examples of series that ended from all sorts of situations, but that doesn't mean the same thing will happen again. I can't remember the exact circumstances on how Ane Dokii left the magazine, but it does remind me of Harisugawa in terms of genre. Either way, I will still be routing for the series and hope that it survives the next round of cancelations.

 

[Oberon]

Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Part of Preview Jump #01 & Some Stuff Jump #51:

 

[calimike]

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many new series get cancelled, what's up? I guess mangakas are no talent or something like

 

[Divinenega]

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many new series get cancelled, what's up? I guess mangakas are no talent or something like

Sometimes it;s that, but half the time it;s that the JUMP readers have standards we don;t really seem to know about and series get axed for not being what their looking for even if most of us here may find it to be good (Psyren, Double Arts, Enigma, etc.)

 

[Drmke]

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It's not even the manga that get axed aren't what the readers are looking for, it's that for a new series to start something has to be canceled and since older series have been around longer, they have a bigger fanbase and since newer series don't have that fanbase, they are a million times more vulnerable to being the one that gets canceled.

 

[SSJWill4]

Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Huh...didn't realize that Issue 1 was next week. When was the last time we only had 51 issues?

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Huh...didn't realize that Issue 1 was next week. When was the last time we only had 51 issues?

We only had 51 issues because the unexpected one week absent due to the earthquake on last March; plus, we actually had 47 issues because four issues are double issues. Jump should have 48 issues if they didn't take absent.

 

[SSJWill4]

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We only had 51 issues because the unexpected one week absent due to the earthquake on last March

Ah, that makes sense. I thought that there were other instances where there were only 51 Issues in a year, but I just checked and it looks like there has been at least 52 issues a year since 1970. Plenty of 53 issue occurrences, but never 51.

 

[calimike]

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http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51841365.html

I though this related to WSJ

Jump #01 Information
http://i42.tinypic.com/2uium14.jpg

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51841365.html

What about it?

 

[B'arzz]

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http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51841365.html

it says some about "frustration" and "discomfort" but why do you post here?

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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it says some about "frustration" and "discomfort" but why do you post here?

It says Kubo created a design of Ichigo's Fullbring based on from Tokusatsu Heroes (like, Power Ranger) which young audience thinks it is cool, but it may bring frustration and discomfort to readers who are older and read Bleach for long time.

He used this design because he wants people to be happy when Ichigo returns to regular shinigami uniform, and the Fullbring uniform design is meant for Ginjou not Ichigo.

It isn't anything important to talk about.

 

[Asarii]

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@calimike: Technically your post is related to WSJ, but it's better suited in Bleach's sub-forum. Be careful next time!

Spoiler: Rankings

Not happy this week: Sket Dance, KHR, Beelzebub and Nurarihyon are all in the bottom half.

 

[Josl]

Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

The next round of 2chan fun rankings for those who are interested

Rules etc:

Spoiler

Bear in mind that the following ranking are not an actual reflection on how the series will do when the actual rankings come out but only a nice little pastime for very few people on 2chan.

How does it work?
They give every series they read a score between 1(the lowest), 5(the highest) and 0 for unread series.

What do the numbers mean?
The first column is the sum of all scores
The second column is the number of people who have read the series and given points
The third column is the average rating from ALL the people, including those who have not read it. (First column divided by number of participants)
The fourth column is the average rating from those people who have read the series. (First column divided by the second column)

Bear in mind that the following “ranking” is for issue 50. The one where there was no Naruto. The Japanese are getting their WSJ on Monday (5 days AFTER we get the Edited Mangas) and the ranking length is 1 week long until the next WSJ comes out.

Issue 50:
Number of participants: 90
Absent series: Naruto

01) Hunter   		(376) (83) (4.17) (4.53)
02) Toriko 		(294) (88) (3.26) (3.34
03) Inumarudashi 	(265) (78) (2.94) (3.39)
04) Medaka  		(255) (79) (2.83) (3.22)
05) Bakuman 		(245) (85) (2.72) (2.88)
06) Kagami no Kuni 	(198) (78) (2.20) (2.53)
07) Nisekoi		(185) (77) (2.05) (2.40)
08) Bleach		(185) (74) (2.05) (2.50)
09) Kochikame		(185) (67) (2.05) (2.76)
10) Magico		(182) (64) (2.02) (2.84)
11) Gintama 		(179) (71) (1.98) (2.52)
12) Sket Dance 		(171) (79) (1.90) (2.16)
13) One Piece		(156) (77) (1.73) (2.02)
14) Reborn		(154) (52) (1.71) (2.96)
15) Kurogane		(154) (71) (1.71) (2.16)
16) Stars 		(150) (62) (1.60) (2.41)
17) Kuroko 		(137) (57) (1.52) (2.40)
18) Beelzebub 		(129) (63) (1.43) (2.07)
19) Mago		(124) (49) (1.37) (2.53)
20) Pakki		(87) (52) (0.96) (1.67)

Source:

Spoiler

【50号集計結果・得点順に並び替え／90レス中】
（総得点数） （評価数） （未読を０とした平均得点） （評価数の中での平均得点）

１.ハンタ ..……（376） （83） （4.17） （4.53）
２.トリコ ....…（294） （88） （3.26） （3.34）
３.まるだし ...…（265） （78） （2.94） （3.39）
４.めだか..……（255） （79） （2.83） （3.22）
５.読み切り...…（248） （72） （2.75） （3.44）
６.バクマン....…（245） （85） （2.72） （2.88）
７.鏡の国.......…（198） （78） （2.20） （2.53）
８.ニセコイ . …（185） （77） （2.05） （2.40）
９.ブリーチ . …（185） （74） （2.05） （2.50）
10.こち亀 .......…（185） （67） （2.05） （2.76）
11.マジコ . .....…（182） （64） （2.02） （2.84）
12.銀魂 ………（179） （71） （1.98） （2.52）
13.スケット......…（171） （79） （1.90） （2.16）
14.ワンピ .......…（156） （77） （1.73） （2.02）
15.リボーン . …（154） （52） （1.71） （2.96）
16.クロガネ....…（154） （71） （1.71） （2.16）
17.スターズ . …（150） （62） （1.60） （2.41）
18.黒子 ………（137） （57） （1.52） （2.40）
19.べるぜ ......…（129） （63） （1.43） （2.07）
20.ぬらり....……（124） （49） （1.37） （2.53）
21.パッキー. .…（87） （52） （0.96） （1.67）

満足度（評価数の中での平均得点の平均）＝2.70

For comparison:
Issue 49 fan rankings:
Number of participants: 91

Spoiler

01) Hunter   		(393) (89) (4.31) (4.41) 
02) Toriko 		(259) (89) (2.84) (2.91) 
03) Medaka  		(245) (80) (2.69) (3.06) 
04) Kagami no Kuni 	(242) (82) (2.65) (2.95) 
05) Naruto		(239) (76) (2.62) (3.14) 
06) Inumarudashi 	(236) (77) (2.59) (3.06) 
07) Bakuman 		(200) (86) (2.19) (2.32) 
08) Kuroko 		(195) (75) (2.14) (2.60) 
09) Nisekoi		(195) (81) (2.14) (2.40) 
10) Kochikame		(195) (75) (2.14) (2.60) 
11) Magico		(190) (69) (2.08) (2.75) 
12) Bleach		(182) (82) (2.00) (2.21) 
13) Gintama 		(179) (71) (1.96) (2.52) 
14) Stars 		(163) (70) (1.79) (2.32) 
15) Sket Dance 		(162) (75) (1.78) (2.16) 
16) Reborn		(152) (53) (1.67) (2.86) 
17) Beelzebub   	(151) (75) (1.65) (2.01) 
18) Kurogane		(139) (71) (1.52) (1.95) 
19) Mago		(124) (57) (1.36) (2.17) 
20) Pakki		(123) (70) (1.35) (1.75)

 

[Schabrak]

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Was this posted already? I think so at least. At least it's very official now. XD The chapter were short before... so probably no increase of titles.

SASAKI_Hisashi SHONENJUMP SASAKI
saikyojump.com/tvcm.swf SAIKYO jump will launch as a new monthly magazine on December 3rd! The youngest magazine from shonenjump group.

edit: But it's from half an hour ago :P

 

[Zeromcd]

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Shounen Jump Issue #1 TOC
Bakuman (Lead CP, Cover)
One Piece
Toriko
Naruto
Gintama
Nurarihyon no Mago (Center Colour)
Nisekoi
Pakki
Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa (Center Colour)
Sket Dance
Medaka Box
Kuroko no Basket
Hitman Reborn!
Hunter x Hunter
Kochi Kame (Center Colour)
Kurogane
Inumaru Dashi
Bleach
Beelzebub
Magico
ST&RS

Shounen Jump Issue #2 Information
Lead CP: Toriko
Center Colour: Medaka Box, Hitman Reborn!

Enigma will be getting a 47 page final chapter with a Colour Page in Jump Next! Enigma will also be at the very back of Jump Next!

 

[Kaiten]

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Not a great week for Kurogane, just barely out of the bottom five this week. Unfortunately three of the bottom five are mainstays that will not be canceled with the next round of cuts. I still think that Magico will be one of the next to go, along with St&rs. Hunter x Hunter will probably save a third series from cancellation, Kurogane and Kagami will likely live to see another round of cancellations.

I don't actually read Kurogane, so I'm not exactly invested in it's well being. The only Jump series I read are HxH, OP, Bleach, Naruto, and Nisekoi. If Nisekoi polls poorly I plan on giving new meaning to the phrase "butthurt".

 

[gananime]

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Great to see Hunter x Hunter rising in the rankings!
I feel bad for ST&RS,I don't think anything can save it from cancellation now

 

[Animeace]

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SAIKYO jump will launch as a new monthly magazine on December 3rd! The youngest magazine from shonenjump group.

Not a great week for Kurogane, just barely out of the bottom five this week. Unfortunately three of the bottom five are mainstays that will not be canceled with the next round of cuts. I still think that Magico will be one of the next to go, along with St&rs. Hunter x Hunter will probably save a third series from cancellation, Kurogane and Kagami will likely live to see another round of cancellations.

I don't actually read Kurogane, so I'm not exactly invested in it's well being. The only Jump series I read are HxH, OP, Bleach, Naruto, and Nisekoi. If Nisekoi polls poorly I plan on giving new meaning to the phrase "butthurt".

Im surprised it started out as good as it did considering not a lot of action now that the matches have started I think it will pick up some but regretfully do see it getting canned sooner or later really have enjoyed it tho nice kendo manga.

 

[kmanrockz]

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I wonder if Nurarihyon no Mago and Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa didn't have colour pages this week they might be in the bottom five and take inumaru dashi and Bleach out. Perhaps Jump staff are trying to save these series by giving them more colour pages?