The Future of Aokiji

[mattiaildivino]

after akainu's defeat and rufy has become pirate king,he will be the new fleet admiral,rest assured.perhaps they will be in a good relationship (I mean the Marine of aokiji,smoker and coby to the SH,who are good people,better than a lot of marines)

 

[zerocooldx]

But wouldn't that go against those two personalities? Both spend their life serving the Marines and just because Akainu is acting it more hot blooded than before, it wont turn then to traitors Imo. It was Sengoku that gave Akainu that position after all. I don't see those two turn against the WG unless something major happens to make them doubt the goal of the organisation.

It doesn't go against their personalities because they all protested the direction that the Marines were heading towards. Some took the high road the resigned, while Aokiji fought for it. Its pretty clear that the Mariens and WG aren't one entity that share the same views and beliefs. Also Sengoku didn't give anything to Akainu. He recommend that Aokiji be the next Fleet Admiral. There is clearly a difference in views and beliefs between people like Aokiji, Garp, and Sengoku. I would not be surprised at all if those guys secretly started a movement of sorts to prevent the Marines from becoming blood thirsty pirate hunters.

 

[Kaiten]

But wouldn't that go against those two personalities? Both spend their life serving the Marines and just because Akainu is acting it more hot blooded than before, it wont turn then to traitors Imo. It was Sengoku that gave Akainu that position after all. I don't see those two turn against the WG unless something major happens to make them doubt the goal of the organisation.

I expect it would take much more than Akainu becoming Fleet Admiral for Garp and Aokiji to turn against the Marine. If at some point the Aokiji lead Marine over step there boundaries and become blatantly tyrannical, then we may see them turn against the Government. I do not think either would willingly become revolutionaries or pirates at this point in the story.

 

[Page356]

Aokiji doesn't seem like the type of guy to join an anti government organiztion like the revolutionaries since he spent much of his life as a marine leader, and eventually admiral. Simply by challenging Akainu he let everyone know how deeply he cares for the institution of the marines and by association the WG as well. As for joining the straw hats...I really don't know how to respond to that. It's just an opinion but I'd give that a sub-zero percent of that happening, pardon the pun. I think it'd be more likely that he teamed up with Garp and Sengoku since they pretty much all left because of the same person. As to what they are up to remains a mystery. I'd like to think they are just kind of roaming the GL and NW on their own whims, trying to keep too many innocent people from dying since Akainu took over.

 

[Kaiten]

Don't get me wrong, he could well be motivated to rebel before the end. Under the right circumstances. I do believe he, along with Garp and Sengoku, left the Marine for a reason. Remaining neutral is not enough of a reason for characters of there stature to resign senior military posts. I believe there will be a tipping point that will cause Aokiji to become an enemy of the Marines and World Government. But I do not believe that time has come. When it does come it will be a massive plot point, a major transgression committed by the Marines, the World Government or both.

 

[Ratatosk]

This is what makes it so damn weird that Akainu let Aokiji live. It wouldn't be too hard for anyone to find out his links with and sympathy for Robin; he was doing things like leaving lines of ice in the sea for hours, or conveniently freezing up ships rudders, without caring much about covering his tracks. If he quits the Marines he is a threat to them, and everyone knows how Akainu deals with threats.

He would be more likely to join the revolutionaries than run a Pirate crew. But then we only ever see him acting alone, until the war, so may be more in character not to join anyone. Also conveniently the one who he'd be most likely to make contact with (Robin) was elsewhere when they were talking about him.

Garp was retired and training the next generation (Read: Coby massive power-up) wasn't he? Wouldn't take much provocation from Akainu for him to go AWOL though.

 

[Schabrak]

Why would Akainu have left him alive with the knowledge that he would have to kill him anyway later on? That doesn't make sense, I don't see Akainu being the aggressor until Kuzan acts first and than it would be to late already. It's not like he was prestigeless himself, he probably had a lot of supporters too, just not as many as Sakazuki with his deeds in the war.

About him going alone everywhere, that could have just be his privilege as an admiral, to conduct secret operations alone. That way he has got at least some time alone and wont be shadowed/observed by anybody else. And it's not like he has shown too much mercy towards the Mugiwaras with all the freezing to near death.

Garp and Sengoku retired so that they don't have to grapple with the whole Akainu situation. What could Akainu now do, that he hasn't in the last two years[and war], that would make them rage so much to against him? If anything, I would say they are already doing something or they won't until the final showdown of the manga. Garp should have stopped him right there[the war] if he knew, that one day even Luffy could be killed by those hands too.

 

[zerocooldx]

This is what makes it so damn weird that Akainu let Aokiji live. It wouldn't be too hard for anyone to find out his links with and sympathy for Robin; he was doing things like leaving lines of ice in the sea for hours, or conveniently freezing up ships rudders, without caring much about covering his tracks. If he quits the Marines he is a threat to them, and everyone knows how Akainu deals with threats.

He would be more likely to join the revolutionaries than run a Pirate crew. But then we only ever see him acting alone, until the war, so may be more in character not to join anyone. Also conveniently the one who he'd be most likely to make contact with (Robin) was elsewhere when they were talking about him.

Garp was retired and training the next generation (Read: Coby massive power-up) wasn't he? Wouldn't take much provocation from Akainu for him to go AWOL though.

I think killing someone, if he really was in a position to do so, like Aokiji wouldn't have probably sat well with most other Marines. Mainly because Aokiji didn't do anything wrong, and simply seems to have challenged Akainu to a battle for leadership that Akainu accepted. Aokiji is a big name among the Marines and killing him for power would have looked really, really bad. Going after pirates is one thing, but going after your own when they haven't committed a crime is a whole other thing. By accepting the challenge, defeating him, and then letting him live Akainu then comes off as being someone who values and acknowledges what Aokiji has done for the Marines. Its a sign of respect. However I think it was mainly a political move to let Aokiji live, if in fact Akainu could have killed him at the end. That way he saves faces inserted of looking like a power hungry murderer.

 

[Kaiten]

Until we know more about the fight that sounds reasonable. It is already known that Akainu allowed Aokiji to live out of respect. Connecting the dots a little, it would make sense as a political move: demonstrating to the rest of the Marines that he is a man of honor and justice. Conversely it could also be an insult, Akainu sending the message that Aokiji is not even worth killing. We could also factor in ego. Akainu, having already defeated him so thoroughly may believe he could do the same should Aokiji ever become a threat.

 

[EddyBob15]

I know people love the idea of Aokiji joining the Straw Hats, but I think it's a little crazy. I'm not saying a marine becoming a pirate is ludicrous as we have Drake as Exhibit A. What I mean is, Aokiji is just too strong for the Straw Hats. Beside that, we don't know about his past or if he has a dream. Unless Luffy gets a major power increase by the next time he meets the former admiral and at the same time, we learn if he had a dark past, then I'll believe it.

 

[beck26]

in aokiji's childhood illustration...he looks pretty poor. a dark past? your guess is good as mine.

and if jinbei is qualified to join SHs what stops aokiji from joining? just because he's strong? well, SHs needs to be strong in new world anyways. and its not like every strawhat could be a monster...so far its only sanji, zoro and luffy who can really be up there in terms of fighting. (no disrespect to brook, robin and franky fans though, but they will forever have the weaker villains than those previous three i mentioned...)

if strawhats would fight the gorousei (which i think are hellbent strong) one-on-one....there are only 3 capable guys...and gorousei are 5. just sayin.

i wouldnt close a door for "aokiji, smoker or anyone else insanely strong" to join the crew.

 

[EddyBob15]

in aokiji's childhood illustration...he looks pretty poor. a dark past? your guess is good as mine.

and if jinbei is qualified to join SHs what stops aokiji from joining? just because he's strong? well, SHs needs to be strong in new world anyways. and its not like every strawhat could be a monster...so far its only sanji, zoro and luffy who can really be up there in terms of fighting. (no disrespect to brook, robin and franky fans though, but they will forever have the weaker villains than those previous three i mentioned...)

if strawhats would fight the gorousei (which i think are hellbent strong) one-on-one....there are only 3 capable guys...and gorousei are 5. just sayin.

i wouldnt close a door for "aokiji, smoker or anyone else insanely strong" to join the crew.

What I meant was that he was stronger than Luffy, which goes against Oda's rule about having crewmates be stronger than him.

 

[mattiaildivino]

What I meant was that he was stronger than Luffy, which goes against Oda's rule about having crewmates be stronger than him.

that's why he is waiting for rufy being stronger than jinbe before making the latter join.

 

[EddyBob15]

I know that. But while it's pretty obvious that it won't be long before Luffy's strength surpasses Jinbe's, becoming stronger than Aokiji seems like a long shot.

 

[kkck]

I don't think it is much of a long shot for luffy to surpass aokiji or any of the admirals for that matter. Obviously that won't happen soon however the manga is still just barely over half gone meaning that luffy has almost half the manga to pull that off. Luffy is getting stronger throughout all the arcs in a constant manner. Surely one or two more arcs from now it won't happen but what about 4 arcs from now? The monster trio in general should be weaker than admirals as of now however several arcs from now they will have had to defeat a number of strong people on their own including yonko, shichibukai and other world class pirates. It is not so out there for luffy or anyone of the monster trio for that matter to match or defeat an admiral in the long run.

 

[EddyBob15]

Very well, you made your point. But still, the odds of Kuzan joining are still long.

 

[kkck]

Aokiji joining the strawhats? I agree in that is never going to happen, it doesn't even begin to amke sense lol.

 

[EddyBob15]

Does anyone have an idea of when Aokiji will turn up again?

 

[Zoronoa Roro]

Yes, Oda.

 

[Doraku]

It sounds like a crazy idea, but I think it is interesting if Aokiji later joins Revolutionary army or anything similar to that to coup the government since he sees the Akainu's leadership is corrupt.